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[alrelax]

What purpose does keeping your detailed score cards serve?  Are you going to seriously match up a certain card against one coming out?  Say if you have 20 times chop (true alternating singles) for 25 shoes, are you thinking that the chop came after a certain run or any of another dozen or two or three dozen possibilities that sent the shoe into a chop??  The list is endless of possibilities that might prelude or follow any one of the popular groupings/trends such as singles, doubles, 3's or 4's or runs/streaks, etc., etc., and so on..................

Are you really thinking you will capture and figure out what the prelude or encore to any groupings/trends/patterns is going to produce???   I hereby state----it cannot be done.

It is not going to happen, if it did or you could, score cards, score boards and unlimited note taking would be highly prohibitive in all casinos.

The one shoe you might figure out will be followed by hundreds if not thousands of other shoes that don't hold any reasoning's or comparisons worth a darn using your past charts and cards.

Sure there are the general patterns and trends out there in baccarat land, but the prelude and the encore to each one of them will prove inconsistent no matter how many cards you save and study. 

Keep all the stats you desire.  Go to the table and that short time you are there, if certain previous decisions repeated, they were random as well and although they might repeat like I said one time, the next hundred or so times the exact same pattern will be preluded by an entirely different set of decisions as its prelude and/or encore.  And the kicker is, those very few times the prelude or the encore was correct, 'as previously recorded'--according to your previous cards/stats, the times they will be wrong will outweigh those that were correct hundreds if not thousands fold. 

Exactly why the casino will supply all the scoring and note taking equipment one could ask for. 

[NathanDetroit]

I agree with you 100 %.




The reason I mam using the    score  card at the table is  just WINDOW DRESSING    Not only that I  am doing  some  make believe hard thinking before my bet because I   do know exactly   before hand  WHAT  and WHEN  to bet. 



Nathan Detroit

[AsymBacGuy]

Sorry Al, but you can't be more wrong.

Read "advanced advantage play" by E. Jacobsen and maybe you'll change your opinion.
Almost half of the book is devoted to baccarat and Jacobsen isn't an i.diot like me, he's a mathematics professor expert in gambling.

About the importance to score keeping BP hands, well you have to wait the i.diot book. If you wish, of course. 

as. 

[alrelax]

Sorry Al, but you can't be more wrong.

Read "advanced advantage play" by E. Jacobsen and maybe you'll change your opinion.
Almost half of the book is devoted to baccarat and Jacobsen isn't an i.diot like me, he's a mathematics professor expert in gambling.

About the importance to score keeping BP hands, well you have to wait the i.diot book. If you wish, of course. 

as.
On the same shoe, maybe, I agree.  Not what happened last shoe or the shoe yesterday or the shoe from 3 months ago. 

[AsymBacGuy]

Of course, Al!

Any shoe is a single entity totally disjointed from the previous or the future ones.

Otherwise my methods would rely mostly on progressions and they don't.

Baccarat results are randomly formed but there is a common guideline produced by three incontrovertible features:

- some hands are mathematically shifted toward one side;

- the deck is a finite deck (card dependent process);

- the very slight propensity to produce the opposite of the last result.

So baccarat isn't an independent unguessable 50/50 game by any means.

That doesn't mean baccarat is easily beatable.
That doesn't mean that those features will properly act everytime no matter what.

In reality, yes, we could play even not keeping scores, but some basic registrations must be made.

as. 

   

   

[alrelax]

As,

I was referring to the maintaining or statistical reference after the shoe was finished.  I speak to many and I listen to numerous about this game.  Most are disadvantaged by too many comparisons and guidance as to the current shoe they are playing in referencing it to past results, e c.

I always have said, play the shoe as to what it is currently producing.

[AsymBacGuy]

Al, again I agree.

If I've played a winning strong chopped shoe, I won't think that the next shoe will be more streaky than chopped or half-half or whatever.

Still I have to register how many wins I got on that winning shoe and how I got them.

I can even agree that going "counter stream" rarely is a good option but it depends on what we're looking for.
I don't want to go counter stream but many times I prefer to sit out hoping for possible better opportunities.

It's wrong to go against some flows as much as stubbornly trying to find trends at any occasion.

as.

[alrelax]

It's wrong to go against some flows as much as stubbornly trying to find trends at any occasion.

as.

100% if not more. 

Only problem is, 'the flows' stop or continue without us believing in it;

And, frustrated players invent their own 'trends' that are not coming or stay on one after it has been exhausted.