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[alrelax]

You guys that play Blackjack or Baccarat have one data stream at a time. In Roulette, the way I play, I have 4 data streams that contain 3 sets for each as apposed to the 50/50 games that only have 2 options. In that binary you look for characteristics of randomness, even if you don't relate to the changes that occur in that way. But you talk about it anyway. You see clusters of 1's, (singles) 2's, (doubles) or 3's, (triples). You see streaks of B's or streaks of P's. It's all the same. You are "reading randomness" in your own ways. So you devise strategies to attack opportunities that appear to be continuing. It's very simple. I just like Roulette because of the many data strings at the same time. If one stream is chaotic, another stream might be miraculous. In this case more is better. But in all that I never expect to see an exact type of characteristic. The Global Effect is either happening or it is not. It's very easy to detect. You just have to look for it. The extremely rare Elegant Pattern shows up about every four years. You owe it to yourself to be looking for it. It's like finding a bag of gold. But if you don't know to look for it you will never see it when it happens. Perhaps being blinded by math is an acceptable excuse for that.

I am sorry--you are correct for the most part.  However, when I play--I do (most always) have numerous data streams at a time.  True there is only one coming out of the shoe at a time which will form each hand--the exact same as the wheel will produce, only one number. You are roulette primary and baccarat secondary, no?  Roulette you constantly refer to groups, sections, numbers, columns, colors, odds, evens, sections of the wheel, etc., etc., etc.  Well as I have explained, in baccarat, there is an equivalent to all those as well. 

Naturals, numbers, additions to one side with reductions to the other side on each hand, ties, no ties, stronger, weaker, all kinds of streams that are produced with more than a fallacy, once you understand baccarat, the same as roulette. 

Once players understand the reality of the game, the better they will become at it.

In baccarat there is so much more than looking at the standard and classical (1) stream of data, how many bankers and players, etc.  And that is where reality, experience and money loss comes into the picture.  Reality.

It is all in the reality.  No matter what the player thinks will happen are should happen according to tested or live streams occurring, etc. 

[Gizmotron]

I get it that there are multiples of many streams that come from a single 50/50 data stream. They come in the forms of differing characteristics. I once published a list of those characteristics around here somewhere.


I found something from the school:



Please define what these characteristics mean. It is impossible to read randomness if these concepts are not understood correctly.
 
  Dominance of a grouping's occurrence or leanings by a percentage rate.
 
  Define "Dominance"
 
  Define "the global effect"
 
  Define "series" for 1 or 2 (singles & doubles)
 
  Define "pattern"
 
  Define "elegant pattern"
 
  Define "sleeping"
 
  Define "grouping" (group)
 
  Define "trend"
 
  It is no wonder that the discussion of randomness is thought to be worthless to many. I'll bet the basic terms are completely misunderstood and most likely impossible to relate to by many.

[alrelax]

There are possibly reasons things happen as well as ones that cannot be defined, definitively.  And, the ones that cannot be give huge fuel to those that want to give or cause drama with those that just might have found something.  In gambling anyways. 

To those that are negative against it, all they have to say is 'random' and you cannot chart, guess, predict or be accurate in anything we have found or believe causes an event or events.  To those that are positive for it, of course there are explanations.

The problem with it is reality.  Knowing how, when, what length of time, etc., etc., etc., and so on.  That was the whole point of my thread and my details I tried to bring forth. 

It is kind of like that high school chemistry class we used to love to go to.  See what we could blow up by adding too much of the known or unknown, LOL.  The teacher could always explain it, in fact he had to so he could  protect himself and appear as though he had everything under control including people (students) he could not control and had no idea what they were going to do next.  Maybe you understand the analogy?

[Gizmotron]

https://betselection.cc/gizmotron/tracking-software-for-practice-real-play/


I have given away a software program that allows you to practice both 2/1 bets and 1/1 bets. The Red & Black act very much the same as P & B bets.


Here it is:

On every spin I check to see if a new characteristic is forming or that any existing ones are changing. So I scan the chart. I can see a characteristic in approximately one third of a second.


Look for sleepers in the dozens and columns.
Look for singles, then doubles, triples, and larger in the dozens and columns.
Look for global effects for all this.
Look for perfect and almost perfect patterns in the dozens and columns.
Look for a perfect or almost perfect dominance in the dozens and columns.
Look for dominance in all of the even chance bets.
Look for sequences of singles, doubles, and triples and above in the even chance bets.
Look for perfect patterns in the even chance bets.
Look for sleeping zeros and wide awake zeros.
Look for any active attack bet ending.
Evaluate the effectiveness of the current state.
Repeat this process after every spin and before every bet.

[alrelax]

Part #5.

Waiting for the right time.  "I choose to wait giving myself a false sense of comfort and confidence".  The reality of waiting it out. 

Waiting is a two edge sword in baccarat.  Yes, it can save you money, but with just as much safety as it gave you to stop, you could have cost yourself from wagering and winning on the exact thing that might have allowed yourself to win.  Most all baccarat players could not tell you what they are actually looking for or waiting for, unless it was something like—'for the players or bankers to catch up or for the players or the bankers side to streak'.  Of course, no one knows precisely when any events will occur in baccarat.  No one.

You can wait and wait and wait all you want.  Believing that a certain pattern will happen because statistics and testing has proved it.  You have convinced yourself that it will, every 'XYZ' in 'XYZ' deals of the cards.  But it might not, at the live tables or I can only imagine on-line, I don't play on-line and never ever will.  But let's stick to the real live table in the real casinos.  Oh, it will eventually of course, or something close to it anyways. 

Sure you will win on that one if it comes out exactly as you envision it.  But you will lose on other ones you believed was it and happening or going to happen.  Or perhaps started and then stopped abruptly, not completing your awaited pattern/trend/event, etc.  Sorry, that is the reality and the brutal truth what the cards will produce.  Something that most baccarat players do not want to face.

So we try to train ourselves to wait it out, wait out the losing or the not perfect scenarios.  The highest majority of players will tell themselves, if I wait it out I will not lose and my 'key trigger' will come around.  The only problem with that one and all that, is all the time that the perfect patterns, trends or events happened in multitude will be presented and you will still have missed them.  Then in frustration you wager and your vision was clouded and your frame-of-mind will not allow yourself clear thought or anything positive because you went into tilt and anything that was in your favor or helping you, just went out the door.  As in reality, there is no way to actually sit it out, without further inflicting psychological hurt to yourself, which only raises your frustration level when you miss everything that you were actually waiting for.

Many say, "Wait for the losing sequence to be gone", or "Wait for the losing randomness to work itself out", or "I know when to enter and when to exit based on what the shoe is doing", or "Wait and see", etc., etc.

It is always risk, risk is always there when you play, always.  That is reality.  When you convince yourself otherwise, that is when you compound and build yourself a problem that will hurt you.  You told yourself one thing and were depending on it, you are not (NOT) playing what is being presented, you are playing to have the shoe present what you desire.  There is a huge difference and if you cannot understand that, you are playing the wrong game.

'Take it—place it—and be there—not beating the casino.  I am only merely joining them and participating.  I know that this game can and will present explainable events that will not fit into anything I am familiar with or desire.  I can win by wagering with what is happening or win on what is not happening'.    When you truly understand that, you are on your way to better play at baccarat.

That is why I repeatedly say, "Reset & Refresh" continually and maintain an ultra-sense of complete consciousness and clear unclouded vision.  When you get into that frame-of-0mind, that one side has to catch up or one side will do such and such because of other events, you fail to realize what is actually happening.  You emotions will be effected no matter if you show it or not, meaning pounding the table or being expression less and smiling as you lose.  No one likes to and no one wants to lose.  If you believe you will lose in order to win, you will eventually surrender your entire bank roll no matter what it is.  That is the reality, no matter if you want to agree with it or not.

And the trick to winning money at baccarat is being able to do it with varying shoe presentments—not waiting for a certain something to surface and then when it does it is extremely short lived or fizzles out quickly, etc.  That is the hard-core reality of baccarat.  Waiting for those 15 hand banker streaks or those 20 alternating chop-chops will eat you up.  You will not make money to survive the time in-between.  And if you solely wait for your events to surface, you will realize a greater amount of, 'W-W-L-L-L' or maybe 'W-L-L', etc., more than 'W-W-W-W-W-W', because of reality.  And when you wager 30 times expecting you 10 or 15 unit easy win that you know is coming, all of your losses will far outweigh all your winning you do accomplish. 

Being extremely conscious, 100% ready, maintaining super wide vision while you are susceptible, viable and finally—you will not allow yourself to get sucked in by others pointing at the score board and explaining how it has never went past 4 in a row so far, etc., you might give yourself a bit of winning power and play the game the proper way.   But if you truly believe you can wait it out and then see something that will happen, you are under total false belief that will hurt your immensely. 

In reality you will not be able to look at a baccarat game and visually see a winning or a losing streak going on—I am referring to what is going to happen, not what already happened.  Looking at it without being in the game is entirely another story mixed with, 1) Subscribing to fallacy; and 2) Does not mater one bit at all.

The reality is, almost all of us apply one or two types of things or streams we feel we can win with or what we are looking for.  And that my friend is why you lose so much, so many times rather than winning at baccarat.

End of Part #5.

[alrelax]

Reality is everything, it's not what you think it is or not where you put yourself. It is what it is, how it is presented, it's your job to find it, not to think of it and not to want something to match what you want, but to be in reality is to transpose yourself and watch it in a completely neutral mind while engaging in the game.

[alrelax]

Reality is still king and will be the #1 thing that allows you to win and the #1 thing as well, that causes you to lose at a session. 

I have written about it many times.  But, it seems with the questions I receive and the previous comments, most people do not understand it or simply choose to ignore it.

Do not fool yourself.  Reality will govern how you think, how you wager and how your plans with their entire perfect, well thought out and strategic thinking will actually play out in the casino.  Why?  Because of influence, perception and your very own self confidence with ego mixed right within.  Reality will add unknown amounts of influences to most all players. 

Be careful at the table.  You have to remain completely conscious as to what you are doing.  I do not mean looking at the scoreboard or following someone on an extreme heater or someone losing every wager.  I do not mean wagering for the anti-streak or following the streak.  I do not mean anything about actual bet selection.

What I do mean is the following.  The reason the table game is there in the first place is, the money it generates to the casino property for its existence.  If you think you can go in and beat the house with any kind of simple or elaborate wagering schedule that will stand up to what the shoe presents, shoe after shoe, you are 100% dead wrong my friend.  And that is a good example of reality at play. 

Reality is the presentments of the shoe without any other influences whatsoever.  Not the shuffle, not the cut or the burn.  Not a whole host of other things.  Reality is going to prove an unknown number of chops, streaks, one and twos, doubles, triples, and any combination of those types of trends, without rhyme or reason.  Reality will also produce a completely different outcome in the following shoe or possibly close to the same, no telling.  Reality will also produce an extremely predictable section of presentments or perhaps a totally unpredictable section of events.  That is a good example of reality at play as well.

If you do not believe what I am saying here, go to the casino with a set mechanical schedule of wagering selections.  Wager on just those while tuning out the entire surrounding of everything and anything. Does not matter how many wagers your schedule is, 3 or 6 or 9 or 18 or every hand.  Play that and keep playing just that.  See how long and how much you can profit week after week. 

Once you understand what reality truly is at the baccarat table, you will become a more profitable player with a larger hold of the wins and much better control of your losses. 

[AsymBacGuy]

Good thoughts Al! 

And I really mean it.

as.

[alrelax]

Bump.

Reality.

Stays and stays and stays.

Real, Real, Real. 

Say what you want, but it is real past your drama fantasy thoughts.

[alrelax]

Good thoughts Al! 

And I really mean it.

as.

Of course, you are welcome.

Still look forward to the day we actually sit at a table of Bac together and bang it out. 

[AsymBacGuy]

Still look forward to the day we actually sit at a table of Bac together and bang it out. 

Yeah, so people will see how much money we will put "at risk" at the table. 

as.

[alrelax]

I get it that there are multiples of many streams that come from a single 50/50 data stream. They come in the forms of differing characteristics. I once published a list of those characteristics around here somewhere.


I found something from the school:



Please define what these characteristics mean. It is impossible to read randomness if these concepts are not understood correctly.
 
  Dominance of a grouping's occurrence or leanings by a percentage rate.
 
  Define "Dominance"
 
  Define "the global effect"
 
  Define "series" for 1 or 2 (singles & doubles)
 
  Define "pattern"
 
  Define "elegant pattern"
 
  Define "sleeping"
 
  Define "grouping" (group)
 
  Define "trend"
 
  It is no wonder that the discussion of randomness is thought to be worthless to many. I'll bet the basic terms are completely misunderstood and most likely impossible to relate to by many.

https://betselection.cc/wagering-intricacies/turning-points-sections-gaining-an-advantage/


"This is a good narrative for most who wants to win. A good description of the background of the game. It is difficult to do it precisely as you go along especially when you are also betting. Glen has done it with much effort, and with some adjustments in retrospect, I would think.

Anyway, the analysis of each shoe into sections is one thing. Each section will appeal to different types of players. A dragon player may make a killing a n one section. A chop chop guy in another section while a random player in yet another section. Point to be made is, like Glen pointed out, do you have the patience to wait for the section that suits your personality profile? Such sections sometimes don't happen. There are a few, very few, who have the flexibility to be able to bend to the wind and don't break. Able to see each different section of games are at play and capitalize on it

Anyway, good piece. Keep the articles coming Glen."

Look at the following posts I made of real results and opportunities posted at 9 Fortunes in One Shoe, Heavy Player, Monster Bank Shoe, and the other threads I posted yesterday.

There are really plenty of great shoes in a B&M to be played.  Problem is, not so much understanding all the definitions of each and every term used by various message board posters, the problem is in the interpretation of the presentments to each of us.  What you see is going to be different the majority of the times than what I see. 

Then the influence and the emotions set in.  Those last two are huge influencing factors to each of us.  No matter if you want to admit it or not.  When a player sits there and bets for whatever he is betting, for whatever known or unknown reasons, and wins----almost everyone of us will be influenced.  Especially when a person is player for the bigger or serious money, instead of the $10.00 or $25.00 grind to win say $100.00 and leave. 

The other night myself, H-Money and another person were at a B&M casino, we were all winning and a guy shoves in near table max and wins.  He tells us he played the 'Cut' as the one side could not in his opinion continue.  So he was wagering for the shoe to equal out, as in--too many of one side versus the other side.  Well yes at times it works.  And likewise, at times it will not.  But he continued and he was correct for about 5, maybe 6 wagers.  Then he could not win a wager to save his life.  He was up at least $25,000.00.  He should have left.  Although I have never seen him before, he was a player that knew the game.  Because he did not ask questions, he knew he won or lost as soon as that last card was exposed without questions, etc., etc. 

He had no money management in my opinion and the same thing that hurt H-Money for the past couple of years, was the same exact thing, more so than correct gussing, skill picks, rationalizing, etc., etc.  You have to have money management to control yourself more than anything out there.  No matter if you win or lose.  But especially if you win. 

I have wrote many times about my own money management method and it works.  It does not pick, control or decide wagers, it strictly and only controls and guides me in winning amounts.  As I view all my buy-in as risk and nothing else.

I took the time and posted several shoes from a couple of different casinos last night on the board here.  They were great shoes and my money management method allowed H-Money and all of us to profit great amounts from those shoes.  When we lost we still held what we adhered to in my money management method.  Yes, at times you might certainly be influenced to stay and continue winning or get back certain amounts you have lost, but after years and years of playing, that fails more than it profits for yourself.  Please believe that, but the highest majority will not and must repeatedly experience that very thing before belief. 

So in short, once again what I and we employ when we play is the following:

Buy-in is pure risk capital. 
There are no mechanical or scheduled wagers.
You control your own positive or negative wagers, you money management method does not.

With that said:

1/3rd-1/3rd-1/3rd on winning amounts once they get to a certain point.  Example: Buy-in of $1,000.00.  Say if you win $1,500.00 you have to split it up a first time.  $500.00 to your buy-in, $500.00 to your locked up money which cannot and will not be used again for gambling.  $500.00 to a reserve account/holding for re-buyin or later session, etc.  Say, you win again.  You hit some nice wagers.  You won $2,000.00.  You have to remove your original buy-in, pocket it and it goes back to your bank roll and cannot be used for the session you are in.  The new $2,000.00 is divided up into another set of 1/3rds.  Roughly $700.00 for you new buy-in or continuing buy-in amount.  $700.00 locked up once again and another $600.00 for your reserve amount.  Whatever works, and if you lose you HAVE TO STOP and END THE SESSION.  If you continue to re-buyin you will lose the highest amount of times rather than recouping or earning profits.  Time is your enemy.  Many will disagree with this and write on message boards that they grind it away with some kind of deep deep bank roll and sweat it out and always recover what they lose.  I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT AND NEVER WILL.  That is fantasy internet gambling writing with their fiction bankrolls.  Show pictures, chips, win loss statements, etc.  It does not happen that way, day after day as so many claim.

Onward.  I also developed a 1 + 4 Side Parlay Wager that, when winning is a huge boast in the wins.  Do not confuse this with the high odds side wagers like the F-7 or the P-9 or the 3 Card Anyway 8/9 or the 6/6 or 7/7 ties etc.  This is what I call House Win Money that helps a player really winning, continue to pounce on it, type of wager.  Take say $400 or $800 of win money.  Do not count on that in your buy-in or as win money.  Set it aside and use it when you see something really presenting itself with huge positive triggers or whatever you label the results as.  Say you are wagering $250.00 a hand or whatever the number is.  Use the 1+4 Side Parlay Wager as extra but counted otherwise for your wins, not with your regular wagering amounts.  So betting $250.00 as I said, but you are allocating another $100.00 of say a $400.00 of that previously set aside win money for 4 chances to parlay that very thing, 4 times.  $100.00 of the 1+4 win is $200.00 then $400.00 then $800.00 then $1,600.00 if you make it the 4 times on the parlay, you than have $3,200.00.  You have 4 chances to accomplish that from that same $400.00 win money.  It works out a heck of alot more than taking that $400.00 and risking it all on 3 attempts.  I rather have the 4 chances with $100.00 each attempt rather than 1 attempt to continue to the 3rd do or die wager.  And please, as other people have commented on prior, this 1+4 Side Parley Wager is not a mandated every hand wager for us.  It might take us 1/4 or 1/2 or the whole shoe to complete one or two attmepts out of our 4 tries we have set aside that win money to attempt to complete. 

We did this several times the other night.  No it does not always work, but it works greater than the do or die parlays work.  You figure out what you are comfortable with and fine tune it all, there are so many options and ways to make money management work for you.  But you have to separate risk money, win money, continued win money divided up, locked up money and reserve money.  As well, you have to be able to separate the win money into non gaming funds and accounts, have the will power to walk away and know what the time limits are.  Coupled with all of the emotional and financial factors you will have to deal with.  Those that believe each session will produce profits or recouping opportunities are the largest losers of all.  You cannot win by continued presence in a casino.  You cannot hold your win money and you certainly will deplete your buy in and/or bankroll if you believe you can control or produce wins every session.

You have to have a bank roll and you have to use a portion of it as a buy-in.  Those buy-ins have to be put back in your bankroll each session or when you win.  You can not keep adding to a bank roll and expect to always build your bank roll larger and larger and play larger and larger.  Sorry, great on the computer and paper, but does not and will not work in reality that way. 

Something that H-Money finally learned.  If you cannot win with XYZ you can not and will not win with ABC.  The values of ABC being the same or greater than your original XYZ wagers and time playing.  There are great opportunities in Bac, but you have to be clear as to how to handle them and rationalize them out.  All the stats and all the models and all the results of any kind of testing will not translate itself into the session you are playing at a casino.  However, at times a few might for a short period of hands and then the psych kicks in as to you finally figured it all out and then you lose whatever it was you just won. It is a mean and viscous cycle that most will not and do ot understand.  If it could devise a mechanical schedule to win al the time or well over 50% of the time, the game would be removed quicker than you ever thought.