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Regarding Automatic Shufflers
« on: May 21, 2018, 02:47:46 pm »
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  •  One Article:

    https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/question/rigged-auto-shufflers/


    "Honestly, the answer to this is obvious. Why would a casino cheat (potentially losing its license and all of its business) at a game that is already rigged in its favor? It wouldn't."   


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    Re: Regarding Automatic Shufflers
    « Reply #1 on: June 19, 2018, 12:49:19 pm »
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  • With that question and answer posted, I have to make the following comments:

    Different casino perform different types of shuffles and removing the automatically shuffled new decks from a machine (if Midi style Bac) or the previously used deck if Non-Midi style of Bac.

    As I said, different casinos have different protocols.  Many will do a quick shuffle, a mini shuffle of a pre-shuffled shoe as well.  More so within the high limit rooms rather than the main floor.  But all casinos with Bac still do a burn card.  Expose the first card, then remove from the shuffled deck the amount of cards as shown on the burn cards face value.  Then a random card by a player and the rear and the front of the deck switched in position.  No matter what the machine did, it is now changed.  Period!

    Now, the #1 and most absurd, completely ludicrous thing I ever have read on any forum, is the accusations that casinos, "RIG" the shoes to produce a certain outcome to take the wagering players money, etc.  How F***ING stupid can one get?  Seriously. 

    There is no way to preset or so-call rig the presentments that the Bac shoe will make after the burn cards are removed (which is always a varying amount), plus the switching of the decks from rear to front, etc.  Whatever the so-called rigged machine did, would be changed. 

    But I continually read on the internet that casinos are rigging the game and have the ability to put a choppy shoe out there to take the players money that always go for the longer runs or they can rig the shoe to produce a streaky shoe to take the players money that only wager for the chop or the cut.  Complete absurdity and I guess showing the true sense of intelligence of the internet forum author/member? 

    Is this Alice in Wonderland writing on most forums, Alice herself?  If you believe the auto shuffler can set up a shoe at the direction and will of the floor supervisor or other casino management that secretly tells it what to do, you will most certainly believe the following are true:

    One tall midget reached up high,
    Touched the ground above the sky,
    Tied his loafers, licked his tongue,
    And told about the bee he stung.
    He painted, then, an oval square
    The color of the bald man's hair,
    And in the painting you could hear
    What's undetected by the ear.

    One fine day in the middle of the night,
    Two dead men got up to fight.
    Back-to-back they faced one another,
    Drew their swords and shot each other.
    One was blind and the other couldn't see,
    So they chose a dummy for a referee.
    A blind man went to see fair play,
    A unintelligent man went to shout "hooray!"
    A paralyzed donkey passing by,
    Kicked the blind men in the eye,
    Knocked him through a nine-inch wall,
    Into a dry ditch and drowned them all.
    A deaf policeman heard the noise,
    And went to arrest the two dead boys.
    If you don't believe this lie is true,
    Ask the blind man, he saw it too!

    Another thought I have.  With all the so-called seriousness of the forum AP'ers and their postings, why not find out if this can really happen or not?  For less than $10.00 you most certainly can.  NUDGE--NUDGE.  You can get your factual answer right in your very own living room or on your kitchen table! 

    Go to the dollar store and buy 8 decks of cards, less than $10.00.  Remove the jokers and shuffle them up.  Redo that a few times, wash them out on the table and reshuffle again.  The same way they did it at the casinos before the auto shufflers and for the few properties not using them.  Separate them into 8 piles and reshuffle. 

    Then turn them face up.  Set them up any way you want.  Make all naturals or all chops with some variations phased in.  Write it all down.  (What is the matter?  Too much work?  Easier to say casinos can do it and write and spread Jabberwocky--Thanks Marcia Clark, I got that from the Los Angeles County Prosecutor, she loved using that phrase, LOL). 

    Then you have to pull the first card and burn that many, then let someone in your house card the deck.  Move the rear to the front, etc., and start you game.  See if the order of the cards match what you set it up as.  Do it, and do it several times.  Yes it will take some time, but for less than $10.00 and a few days refraining from posting Jabberwocky on the gambling forums (Thanks again Marica Clark and sorry you lost your rock solid murder case by the way!)  you will see if a shoe of Bac cards can be set up and withstand the burn card and a varying number of unknown cards being removed as well as the random cut and switching of the deck halves.

    But you will not do this, I already know.  Why?  Because it is more exciting and drama driven to say, the casino can set up the shoe anyway they want to take the players wagers through technology.   

    Hey if nothing else, at least you learned that the term Jabberwocky was widely used by such a great female prosecutor the County of Los Angeles trusted to convict a so-called murderer. 



     


     
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    Re: Regarding Automatic Shufflers
    « Reply #2 on: March 14, 2020, 07:33:21 pm »
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  • Seriously.

    Well, where are the Ap'ers with their rock solid evidence that casinos can set up shoes of Bac at their direction to throw the players off and take their wagers?

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    Played well over 30,300 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

    "Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

    Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

    Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that more.
     
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    Re: Regarding Automatic Shufflers
    « Reply #3 on: March 14, 2020, 09:02:23 pm »
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  • They can't.
    Besides the obvious legal issues, as long as I can bet any side I wish at any time I want and with any amount I like (baccarat) no one preordered card setting can prevent me to spot profitable (or not) situations.
    A thing that theorically can happen at black jack where small cards are clustered in playable portions of the shoe and high cards are dispersed or greatly confined at the unplaybale end of the deck.

    That's why is so important to set up a strategy made on several multilevel points where no card arrangement could destroy our plan.

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    Re: Regarding Automatic Shufflers
    « Reply #4 on: April 01, 2020, 08:13:28 pm »
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  • I see on other forums how the so-called and self-proclaimed AP'ers constantly and consistently claim the casinos can set up the Shuffle Masters to make virtually any order of presentments to the casino's desire, to take the baccarat players money.

    How insane of a statement can actually be said?
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    Played well over 30,300 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

    "Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

    Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

    Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that more.
     
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