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Started by alrelax, October 08, 2023, 08:14:28 PM

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alrelax

This was a great shoe if one believed in it. Although only myself and about two others really did throughout the majority of it. It was a full table with some back betting going on as well.

Most of all the belief was, the players side will come back and come back strong. Lots of Martingale wagering on the player side with consistent and repetitive player side wagering going on. The mentality of most of the people was totally amazing.

So so many people these days wager against any streaking and for the chop when there is obviously one side dominating; Or they wager for the streak when the shoe is producing repetitive chops or 1s and 2s. 

Best I can recall is the following. In the beginning was just about the bankers side winning by one point or a drastic reduction in the players side to a zero or near zero. Those three natural back to back hands number 4-5 and 6, were  players natural eight and bank natural nine, players natural nine And banker seven, players natural eight and banker natural nine.

When the first streak of 6 bankers happen the players side had pretty good opening cards such as a two card 7 and a natural 8 on the first two. The next two hands 12 and 13, players five and bankers one, Players pull a three and bankers pull an eight. Then players open zero and bankers opens zero also. Players pull a seven and bankers pull an eight. Last one was a Fortune 7, see picture.

The players make a single win. Everyone but myself and another are verbally pumping up the player side with belief that the players will have a strong come back with almost every hand played. And they're all wagering on it.

Hands 18-19 and 20 are all natural nines for the bankers side and the players side once again had natural eights or open with a two card seven. Then the second Fortune 7 happens.  See picture.  Another natural for the banker.

Now one of my favorite dealers turns to be and mouths the word, "TIE".  I seldom wager tie, very seldom. So I throw up a black chip on the tie wager. The dealer flops a natural 8 for the players side and I look at him and he looks at me while holding the two cards for the bankers side and he says, "don't worry I told you tie". Of course all I see was the loss of about $650 on my bet, $30 on the dragon side bet, $100 on the Tie bet and $20 on my fortune 7 bet. I said, "yeah right you just cost me $800"!!!

So he flops the two bankers cards and it is a natural 8 as well, and on top of that he says, "TIE and I gave you an exact 6/2—6/2 Tie". Looks at me and rolled his eyes, one for the books. See picture, I kid you not!  Now this game is getting interesting! 

Only myself and one other person had the tie as you can see. The other guy had two green chips on it.

The players side makes a triple with back to back wins. I religiously stick with the bankers side, but I tone it down a bit because there's like zero camaraderie and very little excitement except for one or two of us and a favorite dealer. But I don't jump on the player side as most all were doing.

If this shoe was at a $10,000 max table it would easily be a $250,000 shoe plus, but unfortunately it was not.

Then came the small chop. Jumped on that, but not using positive progression which of course I should have. I still did not see what was going to happen in real strong vision. It was now right at the +10 mark that the bankers were ahead and which I do believe the highest majority of the times, will continue with chops or turn in favor of the lacking side with doubles and triples. And I'm a firm believer on what I just said.  See picture 7 in relation to this.

But what happened, what was set to happen, happened!!

Hand 32 through hand 46. When it made that bankers win on hand 33, I started to envision the bankers side is going to remain strong and will get stronger. Hand 33 went players zero and Bankers 2.  Players pulled a seven and bankers pulled a six. The next two hands, Players side once again had a natural eight and then a seven and the bankers side had a natural nine and then a natural 8 to beat the players side each time.

Not many couldn't believe what was happening. Mouths were physically opened and repetitively saying, "WTF" as well as "OMG I can't believe what's happening", etc. etc.

Hands 36 to 41 were a strong show of banker power. With each hand the players side had a six or seven and the bankers would win by pulling a 7 or 8 or 9 or the players side was reduced to zero or possibly a one and the bankers won each hand by having a two or three total point value. 

Both of the back to back ties were natural nines. The bankers side finished with a 13 streak win. See picture eight in relation to this. 

The game continued as you can see in the next picture. See picture nine in relation to this. What is interesting, was the bankers had a lot of hands they normally would lose to a pretty good opening player hand or a 3rd card players pull, but almost every time that happened the bankers would just dominate and have to pull one or one of two cards and they would pull that one or the other card necessary to win the hand numerous times.  Example.  Players having a 4 and bankers having a 3.  Players pulling a 4 and bankers pulling a 6. 

Another fortune 7 came with the last winning banker hand of the shoe, hand 68.  See picture 10 in relation to this.

The last picture is my reward for playing the shoe the correct way.

PICTURES:

1st. Up to the end of the 2 bankers side runs starting the domination.  Shows the two Fortune 7's.

2nd. The first Fortune 7

3rd. The second Fortune 7

4th. My tie bet, showing what I had out there.  PLEASE NOTE, THIS IS A LOW DOLLAR TABLE, $25.00-$1,000.00.

5th. Getting paid on my tie bet and showing you the cards as I stated.

6th. Stacking up some early wins, while others are continuously buying in due to their employment of the martingale on the Players side!

7th. Showing the strongest the players ever got with that triple win as I wrote about.  The point most all got influenced IMO to commit to the players side. 

8th. Showing the board after the 13 streak banker run.

9th. Showing the board where the dominant bankers side continued with no equalization that normally happens.  Especially at or near the ending of the shoe!

10th. Showing the last few hands of the shoe with the 3rd fortune 7. 

11th. The profit.
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alrelax

For some reason, I don't know why, cannot post more than 10 pictures in the thread so I'll give you the 11th one here which is worth displaying IMO.
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"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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AsymBacGuy

Good job!! :thumbsup:

Just a question: are cards in this premise shuffled manually or by a machine?
Thanks Al!

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alrelax

Asym,

They are shuffled by a machine.  But after each shoe, they remove the cards from the holder box to the right side of the dealer in approximate 8 groups, place on the table, mix them up real good and then replace in the shuffle machine.  Then they remove the one that is ready and use that one.
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Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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AsymBacGuy

I suspected that....

BTW, it's always very interesting to hear from your real live sessions..keep posting them thanks!!

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CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
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KungFuBac

Great thread alrelax. Thx for taking the time for Play-By-Play along with pics/ more specifically your real-time thinking. I find it helpful to hear how other bac players make their decisions. When playing with other know serious players we frequently say "what are you thinking" . I find it helpful and a learning opportunity to hear others logic.

I like pic #11 best. :thumbsup:

"...It was now right at the +10 mark that the bankers were ahead and which I do believe the highest majority of the times, will continue with chops or turn in favor of the lacking side with doubles and triples. And I'm a firm believer on what I just said...."

I agree with your thinking and when one event has been superior in front part of shoe I too start monitoring for the inferior event to start at least a mini comeback(It may actually be a strong comeback but runs out of events--Sometime due to excessive Ties). I find the transition to the inferior side a little smoother if I don't try and guess the exact moment it commences its comeback but wait until I start actually seeing the comeback.


Congrats on a well-played session.



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