Sputnik's March

RouletteGhost · February 16, 2016, 12:07:03 AM

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on February 15, 2016, 07:27:35 AM

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RouletteGhost,
you're right,
its the pinwheel,

By the way, RG,
I am P.A,
in the other forum.

No luck with the pw???
Still winning from your pw strategy? Eh?!
There seems a lot to learn ? Eh?!Huh?!
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yes i know who you are

I will not bring any animosity over to this forum.

I like ideas betting against a unique sequence such as 32 now bet 32, hoping a 1 doesn't show for a 321

i respect sputnik (and his other forum aliases)

i am here to learn

i just don't see how its productive to say "don't worry i won't post it" that's one of the reasons im away from the "other forum"

but i will not not not bring animosity here

have a good day PA

marinetech · February 16, 2016, 04:00:06 AM

Quote from: RouletteGhost on February 16, 2016, 12:07:03 AM
yes i know who you are

I will not bring any animosity over to this forum.

I like ideas betting against a unique sequence such as 32 now bet 32, hoping a 1 doesn't show for a 321

i respect sputnik (and his other forum aliases)

i am here to learn

i just don't see how its productive to say "don't worry i won't post it" that's one of the reasons im away from the "other forum"

but i will not not not bring animosity here

have a good day PA

Couldnt agree more with you. One minute everything is in the open, the next, its behind closed doors! LOL! We all know why. It don't work. Simple.

BetJack · February 16, 2016, 04:41:33 AM

Quote from: marinetech on February 16, 2016, 04:00:06 AM
Couldnt agree more with you. One minute everything is in the open, the next, its behind closed doors! LOL! We all know why. It don't work. Simple.

Maybe ...
I Better to stick to Martingales.
He always wins.....
as long as the casino is no limit ...
and I have unlimited money...

( Joke )

BetJack · February 16, 2016, 12:04:11 PM

Quote from: Sputnik on February 12, 2016, 08:04:07 AM
Singles is dozen 1
Series of two is dozen 2
Series of Three and higher is dozen 3

R
R
R

B Now we bet that the serie will repeat so we get the beginning of the dozen formation 333 or 331 or 332

R We lose and now we bet we will get a single so we get the dozen formation 311
R We lose and now we bet we will get a serie or Three with the dozen formation 313

B We lose and now we got Three uniq events with the dozen formation 312

This means that the clustering with even Money and dozen formation give us the odds 5 contra 1.
We aim for two event to repeat out of Three possibilitys with the odds 1 in 3.

?? is there Someone .... who understood that part ??

Atlantis · February 16, 2016, 02:28:22 PM

Hi Betjack,

Think of it like this below (Sputnik writes 'dozens' but means 'series')

Singles is series 1
Two repeats in a row is series 2
Three or higher the same in a row is series 3

R
R
R

B Now we bet that series 3 will repeat so we get the beginning of the series formation 3-3-3 or 3-3-1 or 3-3-2

R We lose and now have 3-1; we bet we will get a single so we get the dozen formation 3-1-1

R We lose and now we bet we will get a series or three with the series formation of 3-1-3

B We lose and now we got three unique events with the series formation 3-1-2

This means that the clustering with even money and series formation gives us the odds of 5/1.

We aim for two events to repeat out of three possibilities with the odds 1 in 3.

A.

Big EZ · February 16, 2016, 03:21:48 PM

Any new update or video about the march you try and use against Vankeelen test.

Sputnik · February 16, 2016, 03:29:52 PM

No new video or update - i try different ways to see if there is a difference with strike ratio.
Is up to each indiviudall to experiement - i share the basic idea and show how you can strike 123456789 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 ... 20 21 22 ... 32 times in a row with two dozen hitting.

Gambler · February 16, 2016, 03:47:04 PM

the idea is good but the fact is that this is not working...you spend more than 3 to 5 hrs in real casino and you will know, which is kinda sad.

Atlantis · February 16, 2016, 04:06:52 PM

Hi Gambler,

Sorry to hear that.
Which way did you try? Sputnik's March 1,2 or 3?
Or did you try BEAT-THE-WHEEL'S way?

I am not sure of how to play the third march; am waiting to hear from BEAT-THE-WHEEL/PA. to tell me about his idea with my example I showed a few posts back... I am playing cautiously and winning with the second march!

A.

Gambler · February 16, 2016, 04:16:27 PM

Quote from: Atlantis on February 16, 2016, 04:06:52 PM
Hi Gambler,

Sorry to hear that.
Which way did you try? Sputnik's March 1,2 or 3?
Or did you try BEAT-THE-WHEEL'S way?

I am not sure of how to play the third march; am waiting to hear from BEAT-THE-WHEEL/PA. to tell me about his idea with my example I showed a few posts back... I am playing cautiously and winning with the second march!

A.

Mate - Sputnik's idea is not working...123 shows up often and i got busted bcuz of it..not gonna try anymore..

BTW's idea kinda swings up and down...have to play very causiously like you said but its very stressful when you play with big money...

Atlantis · February 19, 2016, 02:52:08 PM

beat-the-wheel wrote:

"Thus I discover a way to bet the single and avoid the series 2 & 3!"

Quote from: Atlantis on February 15, 2016, 03:53:12 PM

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R w
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Hi PA/beat-the-wheel,

Please let me know if I understand your idea correctly with the above example session on roulette red/black...

A.

Atlantis · February 20, 2016, 02:31:13 PM

Beat-The-Wheel wrote:
"A way to bet the single and avoid the series 2 & 3!"

if I am correct and we follow Sputnik idea of betting FOR the last 2 series that have formed to continue then it appears the logical rules would be these:

Record the EC series as they happen (1, 2 or 3)

Bet FOR THE SINGLE SERIES to continue after TWO chops eg: RB or BR - and only if last two series fully formed were 1 and 3 or 1 and 2. (in any order)
If win - continue betting for the chop (single) until a LOSS
If lose - STOP BETTING

AND

Bet AGAINST THE SINGLE SERIES for ONE TIME only - but only if the last two fully formed series were 2 and 3. (in any order)
Stop betting whether win or lose.

@X = bet against seriesX (either 1, 2 or 3)

B
2B
1R
1B @3
1R win @3 +1
B win @3 +2
B lose=stop +1
B
3B
R
2R
B @1
2B win=stop +2
1R
1B @3
R win @3 +3
2R lose=stop +2
1B
1R @3
B win @3 +3
2B lose=stop +2
1R
1B @3
R win @3 +3
R lose=stop +2
R
R
R
R
R
3R
B
B
3B
1R
1B @2
1R win @2 +3
B win @2 +4
2B lose=stop +3
1R
1B @3
1R win @3 +4
1B win @3 +5
1R win @3 +6
B win @3 +7
2B lose=stop +6
R
R
3R
B @1
B win=stop +7
3B
R
R
R
R
3R
B
2B
R @1
R win=stop +8
R
3R
B @1
B win=stop +9
3B
1R @1
B @2
2B lose=stop +8
R

This is nice and also working well for me. My target per game is +3u to +5u profit.
Flat betting, sometimes use mild progression.

Have fun,
Atlantis.

Gambler · February 20, 2016, 07:32:56 PM

Hi Atlantis -

Can you play this using the new combined approach?

BPBBBPBBPPPBBBBBPPBBPPBPPBBBPBPBPPBPPBBBBPBBPPPBPPPPBPPBBPPBBBBBPPBPB ...

Big EZ · February 20, 2016, 09:20:14 PM

It seems as if BEAT THE WHEEL has deleted his last post with the idea you are looking for ATLANTIS. Wonder why

AsymBacGuy · February 20, 2016, 10:34:38 PM

Wagering A and B vs C or any other order contemplating a "silent" third factor is interesting and we know that sooner or later we'll get a long sequence of positive situations.
This is a more sophisticated fashion to chase actual "trends", a strategy commonly utilized by the vast majority of bac players.

Unfortunately it won't get the player any edge, not even a so called "statistical control" over the outcomes.

No matter how good will be your arrangements based on such strategy, believe me, there's nothing that prevents a long series of unfortunate losing shoes or a long series of positive shoes after which we don't know what to do (hoping to get more positive outcomes after a given good deviation? waiting to get a positive balancement after a negative deviation?)

Imo every single hand is the product of well defined probabilities.
And most of the times any hand will be 50/50 placed, an unrandom world (even if limited by a finite card composition) where our efforts to guess A or B, or A and B vs C, or whatever, cannot get us any hint to know the next hand(s) side landing.

A perfect 50/50 game cannot be beaten by any means and the inventor of a method capable to negate this assumption doesn't need to play: he'll be rich just presenting his theories to the scientific world.

Imo it remains to study what, when and how will shift a perfect 50/50 game into a slight deviated system.
At least now we're working with the hypothesis that the system won't be always 50/50 placed, so we shouldn't care less about the "averages", as averages are working for the house.

Therefore Sputnik march of every other method must select the situations where some events must more likely happen by a mathematical reason, even if the "average" ratios will prescribe to be us long term losers.

as.