+ 28u tonight. And the stress of winning is really starting to build. It hasn't been so poignant before as it is now.
Usually, the stress is pretty high walking in Even, knowing that if you bust a session BR you are digging a deeper hole from the very first unit. You try to be careful and conservative protecting wins and going home with some sort of profit. So the next session that stress is alleviated a bit. If I bust this session BR I don't dig a hole the entire size of my buy in. And then eventually I'm ahead one full session BR and I'm not stress free, but a great deal more relaxed. Here, if I win a bit, I'm actually happy and very near stress free. Knowing that I'm now working on recovering the loss of the previous session BR. ( I'm down overall for my career, and have those lost units separated into session BR's I'm trying to recover 1 at a time. Milestones you might say, positive psychological reinforcement.)
Now though, I feel like I keep waiting for a loss. I can feel weight of it pressing down on me. Second guessing my bet selection. I've recouped all of this year's draw down and have started working on my lifetime draw down. I feel like I should chip up, double my unit size since I've nearly won two session BR's recently and take advantage of a faster recovery. But I cannot shake the feeling that as soon as I do I'll lose all that I've gained so far.
So the stress mounts, buying in for the same amount, making the same size bets. Scratching out small gains, knowing I'll have to win six more sessions before I'm comfortable chipping up. So if I do lose at that exact moment, I'll still have two normal size BR's to start this all over again.
Anyone else feel pressure mounting from consecutive winning sessions? How do you deal with it?
Tonight's shoe was an easy winner for me, which only adds to the impending doom of guessing it wrong next time. It was however finally a shoe Banker was leading when I got there. Betting for B runs and P singles again, I'm conflicted cause I don't like to bet the strong side.
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B My first bet for B to repeat and I lose 3u
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I rode that 8 Banker streak and colored up when it was over, fearful of giving back what I had gained.
Quote from: HunchBacShrimp on June 27, 2015, 03:12:41 AM
Anyone else feel pressure mounting from consecutive winning sessions? How do you deal with it?
I think you referenced losing and wins being due in another post. I always think I "owe" the casino some bets after some high win rates. Conversely the casino can owe me if I am in the red. But once you are ahead of the casino a decent amount you realize it will take a lot of losing for the casino to get everything back. At that point you are nearly beyond the risk of ruin so even though I'm not relaxed I'm not unduly stressed. And. . . I play within my comfort zone. I played at a $100 min. table a few weeks ago. Very uncomfortable. Fortunately I did get 9 units and quick, too - but just left after one single loss! Normally I would have stayed in the shoe. So who knows how much I left on the table.
J
Jimske,
Great Job on the 8 $100 units!
I don't like to think about 'what ifs'. I figure I have the same chance of getting the exact same results in a different shoe 2 weeks from now. Last night after I colored, I intentionally walked passed the table and thought I would bet the 3u I had in chips in my pocket and see how far that would get me. Changed my mind last second. I'd rather hold on to them a few days and bet them next time, the chances are the same.
It's not about the money at my unit size. $5 at bac, $6 at a craps table. It's about the conflict of me vs me, emotional and psychological control, and then the challenge of me vs random, surviving negative variance and coming out ahead or even. I'll have to be net positive and start removing money from the casino regularly before I enter the next stage, which is the casino vs me.
Ah, your right. My session BR is risking less than what I've recently won. I need to keep that perspective. Thanks.
Where does one find a $ 5 Bac table? It`s either $20 or $25 in my neck of the woods.
Quote from: NathanDetroit on June 30, 2015, 06:37:01 PM
Where does one find a $ 5 Bac table? It`s either $20 or $25 in my neck of the woods.
You can find them in London wherever you go. Finding 10 is even relatively easier.
Quote from: NathanDetroit on June 30, 2015, 06:37:01 PM
Where does one find a $ 5 Bac table? It`s either $20 or $25 in my neck of the woods.
Well, during the week they are $5 tables ( 5- 1000 ). Sometimes they are 10 - 2000 by player request, but the whole table has to agree. And that can be 1 player at the table by himself. The weekend its always a $10 table, and one other table is $25 min. Though, not always. Last week I saw the second table go from $25 min down to a $10 min by player request. First time I've seen that happen. And it may have saved me a bundle.
I managed two sessions last week. First table was full so I geared myself up to play $25 min, but they were changing it down to $10 min as I was sitting down. This was the Thursday before July 4th, casino was packed. Immediately dumped 70u, 60u buy-in and 10u profit I carried from the craps table. Never used more than 15u of my second buy-in, but it was a 5hr grind to get a 2u profit after tips.
Went back Sunday, $10 table. Hit a high of 5u profit, went back 40u, plus those 5u, and managed to get back to a 5u profit 2 hrs later.
So, two sessions and 7u. Not exactly the cushion I was looking for, but two successful grinds from big draw downs has instilled some stress dispelling confidence.
I'm hoping to have a slightly easier time of it next session.
As far as I can see there are still some friendly neighborhood casinps around the globe
.Thanks.
ND
Hi Hunch, do you mind if i ask where you play? I'm at TS and it's always 50 min, with a 25 sometimes (but it's usually full)-- gone are the days of a 10$ game, it seems --a new casino scheduled to open soon near here; hoping they will be more hospitable
TS will feel it when Rivers in S. will open their doors . According to the latest news they have begun hiring and are planning for a Jan 2016 opening.
I am residing in the suburbs about 3 miles away .
ND
Quote from: NathanDetroit on July 08, 2015, 04:46:14 PM
TS will feel it when Rivers in S. will open their doors . According to the latest news they have begun hiring and are planning for a Jan 2016 opening.
I am residing in the suburbs about 3 miles away .
ND
Wait until the one in waterloo opens as well. Exit 42 or 43 I think it is right off the NYS thruway!
I hope the stone gets rolled down the hill!
They have totally f-ed over their loyal players in the last 3-4 years. Back then, I could get a room(s) any day of the week, 80 dollars a day for food was easy at least 5-6x a week. I could walk in and go to casino credit and they would print me off my comp. Now, you get CRAPPPPOLLAAAAAAA
I know a lot of casinos have cut back, but this place is just despicable....
They started the dragon a month ago and had a 50 dollar limit, one night a few asians hit it for max bet 30-1 a few times, the next day they lowered the limit to 25 max!
These bastards don't want you to get your licks in.....
I cannot wait for the competition to come in...I live 10-15 min from the stone and I would rather drive 45min-1hour than go to this ****hole anymore...I literally hate the dump.....
Yes its tight all over,
the "Boats" on the Gulf Coast are much tighter than a few years ago. Now everything is on your players card, Table supers used to write comps when ever they wanted or almost , but now its out of their hands. Now you're lucky to get a discounted meal and a half price room. All in all I assume its cheaper than Lost Vegas, star headliner tickets like Newton when he comes or Don Rickles, start around $65 , I once had front row for Newton for somewhere around $65. Debbie Reynolds front row around $70.
Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on July 08, 2015, 11:19:51 PM
Wait until the one in waterloo opens as well. Exit 42 or 43 I think it is right off the NYS thruway!
I hope the stone gets rolled down the hill!
They have totally f-ed over their loyal players in the last 3-4 years. Back then, I could get a room(s) any day of the week, 80 dollars a day for food was easy at least 5-6x a week. I could walk in and go to casino credit and they would print me off my comp. Now, you get CRAPPPPOLLAAAAAAA
I know a lot of casinos have cut back, but this place is just despicable....
They started the dragon a month ago and had a 50 dollar limit, one night a few asians hit it for max bet 30-1 a few times, the next day they lowered the limit to 25 max!
These bastards don't want you to get your licks in.....
I cannot wait for the competition to come in...I live 10-15 min from the stone and I would rather drive 45min-1hour than go to this ****hole anymore...I literally hate the dump.....
It is outrageously pathetic that they even had an initial limit of $50! It's a $100 max where I play and that's on a $5 table. Of course it's still a $100 limit for both Tie and the Dragon on the $10 and $25 tables. They are cutting their own throat with a $25 limit. Banker Dragon has a 9% HE, and I see it played way more often than the Player Dragon at 2%. Idiots. Their greed is driving off customers. In a market where more casino's are being built everywhere, they need to protect their player base, not run them off.
Well, not the easy session I was hoping for, but it actually wasn't too bad at all. Aside from losing my first three bets, and going into a 30u draw down I remained fairly relaxed and stress free. Lost several 3u bets, backed down and continued to lose 2u bets. Lost all three 4u bets I made, was thinking about just taking a 20u loss and going home but by the end of the shoe I was only down 10u. OTBL would have tore it up, but I was betting for the three hole for no reason I can recall. 19 singles and 15 doubles. 4 threes and 1 five.
The following shoe was crazy, and I didn't force it. I backed off both sleepers, caught my wins in the 2hole, diluted those profits a bit betting for streaks, played my 2u on Banker and 1u on Player Dragon trick. Missed both 30-1 dragons, but caught two 10-2, two 6-1, and several 2-1 payouts on it. Anticipated the chops nicely at the end of the shoe with some 5u bets regressed to 2u bets for 3u profit, pulled off one 3u-6u parlay regressed to 2u.
It was an actual $5 table, so the 18u are actually 18 individual units won, where all of my last sessions were on a $10 table where 20u are in reality only 10 $10u. So I pulled 28u and 1u in tips out of this....
BBB
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BB and I decided to color up here
P would have been a losing bet so I made a good choice.
Crazy how Banker hit the 2 hole 7 times in a row then singled 8 times in a row while Player hit the 2 hole 8 times in a row and then singled 5 times in a row. I could have bet more aggressive, or laid off of FLD after winning the 2 hole, and then again I could have missed a long run, or lost a bunch of big bets. It's a guessing game, and tonight I'm happy with 18u.
Quote from: HunchBacShrimp on July 10, 2015, 04:16:13 AM
Well, not the easy session I was hoping for, but it actually wasn't too bad at all. Aside from losing my first three bets, and going into a 30u draw down I remained fairly relaxed and stress free. Lost several 3u bets, backed down and continued to lose 2u bets. Lost all three 4u bets I made, was thinking about just taking a 20u loss and going home but by the end of the shoe I was only down 10u. OTBL would have tore it up, but I was betting for the three hole for no reason I can recall. 19 singles and 15 doubles. 4 threes and 1 five.
The following shoe was crazy, and I didn't force it. I backed off both sleepers, caught my wins in the 2hole, diluted those profits a bit betting for streaks, played my 2u on Banker and 1u on Player Dragon trick. Missed both 30-1 dragons, but caught two 10-2, two 6-1, and several 2-1 payouts on it. Anticipated the chops nicely at the end of the shoe with some 5u bets regressed to 2u bets for 3u profit, pulled off one 3u-6u parlay regressed to 2u.
It was an actual $5 table, so the 18u are actually 18 individual units won, where all of my last sessions were on a $10 table where 20u are in reality only 10 $10u. So I pulled 28u and 1u in tips out of this....
BBB
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BB and I decided to color up here
P would have been a losing bet so I made a good choice.
Crazy how Banker hit the 2 hole 7 times in a row then singled 8 times in a row while Player hit the 2 hole 8 times in a row and then singled 5 times in a row. I could have bet more aggressive, or laid off of FLD after winning the 2 hole, and then again I could have missed a long run, or lost a bunch of big bets. It's a guessing game, and tonight I'm happy with 18u.
I don't play much this time of year so I got to play the shoes you post just for fun :-) The one above I only get 2.25 u net but this one I do better with a 6.5 u net win. Flat bet of course.
Doesn't mean much - just for the heck of it.
Quote from: Jimske on July 11, 2015, 02:07:26 AM
I don't play much this time of year so I got to play the shoes you post just for fun :-) The one above I only get 2.25 u net but this one I do better with a 6.5 u net win. Flat bet of course.
Doesn't mean much - just for the heck of it.
Jimske,
Hey, I'm glad you're getting some use from my shoes. There seems to be some value in live B&M decisions. I dunno why, they are the same as RNG, but seem to have a different feel to them. Real vs artificial even though they are indistinguishable from each other.
It may not mean you're winning any money, but it keeps you in practice and shows that your BS is solid. I'm impressed with 2.25u and 6.5u flat betting in two shoes. I wish I had a more stable BS like yours. No I'm still not going to ask what it is. For all the frustration my changing BS's can cause me, I take enjoyment from the selection process. I don't have any confidence in any BS of mine holding up with any consistency.
Well, I went early this Friday night so the tables wouldn't be full. Spent an hour at the craps table waiting for some Bac players to show up. I won 8 and lost 5 playing Bac style at the craps table. :thumbsup: I waited for a single Pass, and then bet the Don't to isolate that Pass as a single event.
Had a guy buy in next to me and start chatting it up all friendly like until he noticed the only bets I made were on the Don't side. He stopped talking, looked at me quizzically, and moved away from me next to the base dealer! He's right across from me, like 5 feet away and will not even glance at me. Craps players can be such a goofy bunch of people. I made and won one bet against him before I moved over to Baccarat.
I missed the opening bet by one decision. Which I usually make as a Tie bet. It was Player so I saved myself my first loss of a losing streak that lasted for my first 7 bets! :annoy: So much for having an easy session, and getting home in time to get some sleep so I could go to work early this morning. Now I have to work tomorrow instead. My W/L string opened up like this, LLLLLLLWWLWLLLLWLLWWWL. Needless to say, I'm down once again over 20u in the first shoe. Had some clusters of wins toward the end, but was very conservative and only managed to get back to -10u.
PPPP B P BBBB PP B P B P BBB P B PP BB P BBB PPPP B PP B PPPP BBBB P BB PPP BB PP B PPPPPPP B P B P B PP B P
I wasn't on the P7 streak and lost a 5u bet, as I always bet that 7's go to 8 and hopefully one day 20.
Second shoe was alright, lost another 5u bet early on a B7 streak. :( Banker didn't streak again until late and I didn't gain as much ground as I could have betting for the 2h only. I coulda went home much earlier if I was betting 4u with a 1u follow up instead of 2u and a 1u follow up. It was a long night, and I can't recall exactly what happened, but this shoe caused me some trouble and I had to get into my third stack of red, however I had squirreled away 16 red chips in my pocket. I eventually got them out and my draw down was only about 20u, though it felt like much more.
PPPP BBB P BBBBBBB P BB P BB PP BB PPPPP B PPP BBB PP B PP B P B PP BB P B P BBBBBB P BB P B PPPP BBB P B
On to shoe 3, table changes to a 10$ min, and I decide to bet a little bigger to get back to even and leave. Lost my first four bets 2u 2u 4u 6u. Implemented a few strong parlays and found myself back to even very quickly. I did not continue to bet strong when I got back to even and refused to stop betting for the Player Dragon. I missed it twice on a bet I normally would have won it, either time would have sent me home. So that bet is causing me to get nowhere as I only hit it for 6-1 once and the rest of the time only 2-1 or 1-1 as I lose 2u or 3u on Banker. This shoe was causing me fits, but I managed to keep it together and was only -3u at the end of it.
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This shoe just hit me kind off odd, the way the streaks were isolated on both sides by an equal amount of singles. Solo streak, then back to back streaks, then solo etc. I almost put a big bet on that final B streak to hit 4, because none of the adjacent streaks in the whole shoe were equal in length. I also refrained from making a big bet that the last P streak would have remained a single, as nowhere in the shoe had there been more than two streaks in a row.
The following shoe finally sent me home with 13u profit. NINE HOURS LATER! After continually contemplating a 20u loss or more I was absolutely elated to make it out of there with 13u. Elated I tell you. E! LAY! TED!
Player : Ace, Three total 4 and will draw a card.
Banker : Ace, Two total 3 and will draw a card unless Player draws an Eight.
Player : Draws a three for a total of 7
Banker : Draws a four for a total of 7
TIE!!!!
Praise Zeus!. First hand Tie! That's 16u! COLOR COMING IN! I'm outta here.
I'll try it again next week. Once again, I hope it is an easier session. This 'trend' of me losing my first bet and several more right behind it is getting tiresome. Even though I'm expecting a bad session, I'm no longer burdened by its impending doom. I'm also becoming more and more expectant of some opening wins and maybe hitting that bloody 30-1 Player Dragon.
Well there will be plenty of times you got to raise your bet to win or just cut your losses.
Agreed. For me, it isn't a flat bet game. I have to bet larger for recovery and profit. Usually, in the form of a parlay to reduce the initial bet size, and initial loss potential. It's keeping the hammer down into a win streak that is tricky, I don't like risking big wins to net next to nothing and then inadvertently dig a deeper hole.
However, I'll never walk out with +50u or more without doing just that. And I'm ok with that. That's why I play the Player Dragon and first hand Tie. To burst me past my stop win. Which is about 20u.
Somewhere in here is a thread about how often you win 10 or 20 or 30 units flat betting, parlaying, or martingaling. And how often you pass back and forth over the threshold of profit and loss for each mm inside of 100 bets. I've discovered part of this myself. No where near to the extent the thread covers though. It is imo some of the best gambling information I've ever read.
That's why my stop win is about 20u, it's why I fight so hard for getting even and going home after a big draw down.
Quote from: HunchBacShrimp on July 13, 2015, 11:21:07 PM
Agreed. For me, it isn't a flat bet game. I have to bet larger for recovery and profit. Usually, in the form of a parlay to reduce the initial bet size, and initial loss potential. It's keeping the hammer down into a win streak that is tricky, I don't like risking big wins to net next to nothing and then inadvertently dig a deeper hole.
However, I'll never walk out with +50u or more without doing just that. And I'm ok with that. That's why I play the Player Dragon and first hand Tie. To burst me past my stop win. Which is about 20u.
Somewhere in here is a thread about how often you win 10 or 20 or 30 units flat betting, parlaying, or martingaling. And how often you pass back and forth over the threshold of profit and loss for each mm inside of 100 bets. I've discovered part of this myself. No where near to the extent the thread covers though. It is imo some of the best gambling information I've ever read.
That's why my stop win is about 20u, it's why I fight so hard for getting even and going home after a big draw down.
You might wanna take a looksee at Conquer the Casinos book, hey hey.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/1569802491?keywords=conquer%20the%20casino&qid=1436831171&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
Quote from: soxfan on July 13, 2015, 11:48:02 PM
You might wanna take a looksee at Conquer the Casinos book, hey hey.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/1569802491?keywords=conquer%20the%20casino&qid=1436831171&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
Thanks Soxfan. That's the information I was talking about. I'm going to have to buy that.
Short night tonight.
Really was a little apprehensive about going tonight. First off, all that railing against wewin2222 calling him a loser etc etc seemed to me like I was just stackiing the cards of karma against me. Secondly, I straight up lost my temper today early this morning while I was working. And I'm still angry about how that whole deal went down. And finally I didn't get my nap. :D Which sounds funnier than it really is. I like to nap before I go gamble, especially when I'm up so early in the am for work.
So I went anyway, resisting superstition, and sat down just in time for seven straight losses AGAIN! Holy fornicating excrement! Oh, I can feel it coming now. This is the night I dump 40 or 60u or lose my discipline and over confidently/stubbornly re buy in and dump that too. Fork, I'm hoping I can just get back to even and bolt.
Well, even came pretty easy. As soon as I started making 3u bets I won several in a row and a parlay. Started halfway through the shoe and ended up +5u by the time it was over.
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P I noticed one of alrelax's trends he mentioned, the 4321 pyramid, incomplete however
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BBB I buy in here
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The B streaks helped me and I was on those chops in between them.
Next shoe.
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Lost 1u betting for tie first hand. And the second hand was a tie. *shrug* no big deal, that's not my bet. Won all of the P singles. Lost the first B double and won the second B double. The first B single was a loss but I hit 6-1 on the Player Dragon. Decided to bet all 9u profit on Player after the second B single. If I doubled my profit, I'd leave, if I lost my profit, I'd start over from even and try it again. TIE. Damnit. Then the entire table up and leaves, all as one group for the evening meal.
Well, I'm not betting every hand by myself. I got work in the morning, 9u will have to do. 9u it is.
A +9 units ain't nothin' to sneeze at, HBS; good job on hangin' in there after the rough start.
Are you betting every hand? It appears so, and it looks as if your play is a difficult read.
Now, just FYI, one could accomplish that same +9 units by simply flat-betting the recurring singles and doubles from those couple of shoes, with no draw-down at all. Just sayin'.....might be a better strategy to hone-in or "specialize", if you will, on just a couple of familiar/favorite trend plays rather than attempting to beat anything and everything that a random shoe might be throwing at you. Just sayin'....
Stay well.
GR8,
I don't like betting every hand. I start off just betting for the 2h only, but as time goes by, as it seems to take 2hrs per shoe, I find myself betting more often. Betting for the chops, looking for a sleeper, betting that the 4th time in a row one side doubles, that it will actually triple. Betting 2 or 3u on the 2h, and then FLD for the rest of it hoping for a run. Which is getting me nowhere.
You're right, I need to exercise more patience and discipline for my preferred bet selection.
I was thinking the same exact thing this morning, I'd be better off with just the one bet, flat bet it, and look for the occasional parlay when I need it. This is what brought me better results a few weeks ago. The majority of these big draw downs are a result of too much action. And the draw downs aren't leaving me enough units for a mild progression when my selection tanks and I can't get ahead flat betting it. I'm relying to heavily on parlay attempts which quite a few of failed last night.
Last night was 8hrs for 3u. Three units. I'm happy to be making forward progress, happy to have come back from a 36u draw down, but the grind is getting tiresome.
I hope you're enjoying your retirement, and are still having success at the tables. I look forward to reading a trip report if you make one.
Thanks for the response, but you could have told me Wednesday! [smiley]aes/joking.png[/smiley] ( my sessions are Thurs and Fri )
HBS
Careful with those parlay attempts too, HBS. Some shoes/sessions those "second wins" are rather scarce, and then you're consistently finding yourself "forfeiting" that initial win with each parlay failure.
Might be better to gauge your current hit rates; if you're not hitting twice IAR, cease the parlay move. Later, maybe those second wins are coming a bit more often, and then the parlays will pay off.
Again, no one's forcing your play, it's all about you and the things that you yourself can (and cannot) control. MM is certainly one of them that you can control. Try utilizing a MM schematic that fits your current strike rates a bit better.
Take care.
Alright, I got me head bolted down a little tighter this week. Kinda. I decided to reduce my action, just play the 2h and leave it at that. And if I went into a draw down after a full shoe either progress my unit size up or start working the parlay. Then all day today as I prep myself mentally to go to the casino I'm seriously contemplating doubling my unit size from the get go. Two things I have to ponder.
1. I'm on a long winning streak, but I have an equal expectation of a losing session, and of an easy session. As most of my sessions lately have been quite a struggle.
2. If I double my unit size will I be able to A.) maintain composure through (what is becoming a normal) 40 to 60 unit draw down that is actually 80 to 120 of my normal base unit? and B.) will I push through for 20 double size units (40 base units) or make an exit when I hit 20 base units? I don't really want to double my exposure to the house and halve my stop win. I feel that's a bad idea.
So, as I drive to the casino I scrap all that as I'm still undecided. Them bolts have loosened themselves up. Not recalling much of an FLD shoe lately, I decide I'm going to bet FLD. 3u with a 1u follow up. NO FORKING PLAYER DRAGON BONUS EITHER. And If that fails for the first shoe I'll evaluate my draw down and hit it again. ( I like FLD over OLD, I must have old school blood in me alrelax)
You won't believe this shoe...
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BBB 3u bet win, 1u bet win, 1u bet loss Can't remember last time I won my first bet.
PP 3u bet win, 1u bet loss
BBBBBBBBBBBBB 13B! OUT OF NOWHERE.
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I'm on that B streak from the 2hole. Betting conservatively but who knew? However I did make my 5u bet after it hit 7B. Happy to see it win this time. When the streak is over I'm +26u after tax and tips. I color up, but before I go I bet 3u P going to the 2h win, 1u for the 3h and lose. +28u and I decide to go. I guess I should have stayed and bet 3u again for B to double and rode out my luck until I lost my first 3u bet.
So +28u tonight. Not sure If I'll go tomorrow or not. I walked into this shoe at exactly the right time.
Btw, a nice thrice repeating BBP pattern followed closely by 7 two by twos.
Awesome shoe indeed.
as.
11u tonight. Just a little over 3 shoes in 6 hrs. Nothing too stressful, opened up with some losses but not heavy. I did eventually manage to find myself in a 30u draw down but it didn't last long at all. Was the 3rd shoe before I procured a single unit of profit. Felt lively enough, but didn't feel like betting through another shoe. Bet tie for the first hand 3 times and lost, was really hoping to hit it on the first hand of shoe 4 for an extra 8u. Missed it by 1 :(
I usually maintain a high level of urgency, well maybe urgency is too strong of a word. I usually act like the money is very important to me, I keep the pressure up to get back to even. It's a difficult balance to maintain. You can't be too scared to bet, and you can't be too unconcerned about the money either. Tonight, I was pretty blase about it. A couple of times I was 5u down and was considering leaving, just cause I thought it was no big deal to have a losing session of 5u.
That's the exact opposite of being stressed over an impending losing session. I don't know what that was all about, but I don't like it. It's important to maintain a high energy level for trying to win.
The only thing of significance to report is several players were standing around waiting for an opening, so they opened up another table. That table filled up with anxious players. It only dealt one shoe. And I wish I could have been on it. It was full of streaks of 4 to 7. Just full of them. Less than 10 singles, no more than 3 in a row. No isolated streaks, always groups of them. The whole table busted. Not one winner.
Oh, and it seems I finally kicked my Player Dragon Bonus habit. Just in time too. I didn't see a single 30-1 or 10-1 payout. Not in 3 full shoes. Glad I don't have that thing sucking units out of me anymore.
HBS
Well, I'm a great deal less stressed at the tables now. I'm sure it is temporary, bound to change as soon as my next losing session hits.
I need to develop an exit strategy. I was up 24u when I went to the cage, I should have stayed until I lost 2 bets in a row. I was up 15u three times in the first shoe, kept pushing for 20u, kept losing the 5u bet, the 8u parlay lost, then the 8u parlay won at the end to get back to even. Whole time I'm thinking I've screwed the pooch on this, I should have bolted with a high of 17u.
First shoe..
PPPPP
BB
PPPP
BB
P
BB
P
B
PPPPP
BB
P
B
P
BB
P
B
PP
B
PPP
B
PPPPPP
BB
PPP
BBB
P
B
P
BBBBB
P
B
PPPP
BB
PP
BB
PPP
B
It should have been a cake walk, and I was up early, and stayed up through most of it. But walked into a strong player dominant shoe, Banker never did recover. I found my self losing betting strong that B would finally make it to the 3h. 6 doubles before it happened, then only a 3 and I'm off of those P streaks, no betting, letting P get ahead anticipating a strong return of Banker. Never happened.
Disgruntled that I'm back to even after that shoe. I bet tie first hand for the second shoe hoping it hits and I'm going home with 16u. No luck. Well, luck was right around the corner...
Shoe 2
BBBBBB
P
BBB
PPPPPP
B I color right here +24 was tempted to leave in the middle of the P streak when I hit +20, but can't bring myself to bail in the middle of a streak. Now I'm at the cage and I see Banker hit 4 more times. I should have been on those, I got 4 red chips burning a hole in my pocket. Dealer waves me over. I place a bet for B to hit the 6 hole. It does. +26u. I same bet and B does not make it to 7. +24. I bet that P doubles and it doesn't. +22u and I leave.
I should have stayed to begin with for 2 consecutive losses. It would have made me 6 more units. I'm not crying over spilled milk. I just need a better exit strategy. So +22u for the night. Well, 21.9 if you want to get technical, I had to pay tax on my win.
HBS
HBS
It has been said before, play within your comfort zone is the only key to reduce stress.
Your comfort zone, after a while, may change with your 'confidence in your winning methods.'
So, this thread has turned into a trip report blog of sorts.
Well, my exit strategy of hitting my win goal and continuing to bet didn't work well tonight. 4 times I hit 20u and 4 times I bet again and lost. I kept the pressure up to not to settle for anything less than 20u. Probably not the wisest thing to do. Confidence was high because my biggest draw down was 3u. Lost my first bet of 3u, and from there I stayed ahead the whole time. I did get back down to even several times, but I didn't let it get to me.
About 4 hours. 1.5 shoes. +20u profit after 2u in tips.
Final bet was 4u on Player. Player has six and will stand and banker gets a three card 6. Tie, Argh. I stay up for 4u. Player gets a three card 7 and then Banker gets a three card 7. Tie again! ARGH! Finally Player wins with a three card 9. Yay. I'm not betting again. I'm taking my 20u and leaving.
I didn't go Thursday night, I had work at 630 am Friday. I didn't want to feel pressured to leave if I got caught in a marathon session with a deep draw down. Not sure if I will go Saturday night, but I want to.
HBS
Quote from: HunchBacShrimp on August 08, 2015, 06:25:18 AM
Well, my exit strategy of hitting my win goal and continuing to bet didn't work well tonight. 4 times I hit 20u and 4 times I bet again and lost. I kept the pressure up to not to settle for anything less than 20u. Probably not the wisest thing to do. Confidence was high because my biggest draw down was 3u. Lost my first bet of 3u, and from there I stayed ahead the whole time. I did get back down to even several times, but I didn't let it get to me.
Hmmm....I just wrote a post yesterday in another thread that relates well with this subject of "walking" both wins and losses. I think it'd be wise for you to find and read it, HBS. Couldn't hurt.
It can become a very slippery slope whenever we are so stubborn regarding our win- and loss-goals. I can truly relate when you said you had those 20 units, and, dammit, you weren't about to leave there without them. Oh my Goodness....the money it's cost me, at times, when all I wanted was that one more unit. Tread lightly, HBS.
And why shouldn't you "tread lightly" there, HBS? After all, you're doing a great job, and you've been winning pretty well lately. So what's the difference if you won 20 u or 16 u or 10 u or 2 u? A win is a win, learn to accept it and be pleased with it. And, my friend, that's ESPECIALLY true in sessions like that last one, where you had virtually no drawdown and was a rather easy one....that's when you need to be extra aware of the impending negative variance, and those are sessions where you hit your win goal and GO! Much better that than to await the dark side of variance, no?
You're playing great, HBS. Keep up the good work. And "walk those wins".....both often and EARLY. Better early than TOO LATE.
Stay well.
GR8,
Yeah, I read it either before or after my last trip. You are absolutely right about knowing when to walk. I knew I was pushing it. Pretty much one of the top 'no nos'. I could have left after 30min with 15u. Could have left several, several times with 17 to 19 units. I was really playing with fire there.
I recently sat next to a bettor that was doing very well. Two stacks of reds and 1.5 stacks of green. They turned to the bettor next to them and said " I'm leaving as soon as I get this" and indicated two equal stacks of greens. At that moment, I thought to myself, "uh oh, famous last words". They started betting a bit aggressively, eager to win. Didn't work out. I was glad to see them leave with still 1/2 of one stack of greens left. I'm pretty sure they were still up for the evening. I take no joy in anyone's distress, glad I didn't witness a full fledged bust out.
Glad I didn't do it to myself either. I knew better.
HBS