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[alrelax]

Think what you want and digest it all.  Do it after playing a good bit at the baccarat tables and not just for a few weeks or months. 

I don't care what you research, I don't care what you follow, I don't care how many times the system's author or trainer says it will happen, I don't care what the stats say, it is a different story in its entirety at the brick & mortar casino. 

How many times something happens in 10,000 hands or in 100,000 hands or even in 1 million hands,the results are basically worthless at the baccarat table.  It will fail huge before it ever comes about and be presented for you to capitalize on.  Meaning--the highest majority of all players in baccarat seeking stats and results to copy and bring that learned knowledge into the casino to capitalize on, that player will learn they happen in the long run and not in the 3 or 6 or 10 shoes he is sitting down at. 

Researching and learning data in stats is real dangerous for the baccarat player, IMO.  It is the same exact thing as watching pro football and trying to wager on a present un-played game of football because so and so did such and such in another game.  It might never happen.  And then when it does happen you wager on it again and again and it fails to hold true.

For writing a paper, for witting an article and heck--even for the deceptive system authors and personal baccarat trainers, stats are important because it validates what they are claiming and promising.  Problem being, it will not happen that way and you cannot paly enough shoes to get those results at the casino. 

[alrelax]

Why is it when I look at the system sellers, the trainers, the websites with all the gambling answers and magical dragon explanations for sale, etc., etc., they somehow (of course by mistake) are so darn evasive and exploiting the term 'by proxy'!!!!

When I go to other industry websites, license numbers are posted, managers and owners emails, phone numbers and office addresses are posted, so on and so forth. 

When I go to the systems, trainers and websites offering all the magical info to the gambling world, most of the time there is only a contact by email, from you to them and they will get back to you type of form, etc.  No addresses, no phone, no published emails, not even countries listed on so many.  Yes, a few do possess some limited phones or contact, but the majority do not. 

So convincing and so comforting.

[Bally6354]

How many times something happens in 10,000 hands or in 100,000 hands or even in 1 million hands,the results are basically worthless at the baccarat table.  It will fail huge before it ever comes about and be presented for you to capitalize on. 

Alrelax, I am not nitpicking for the sake of it, but by saying it will fail huge before it ever comes around implies that the game is not random. Anything surely has to have as much chance of appearing as not appearing in a random game. That's the whole point of it and the Casino take the vig. You obviously know this already, so I don't follow where you are coming from really.

If you play a random game, it doesn't matter what the heck you do. So anyone buying XYZ system or going on the latest seminar isn't going to be any worse off at the baccarat table for it, however that's what it appears to me that you are implying.

cheers

[alrelax]

It is random to a certain point.  There are trends and patterns that will repeat themselves at a certain time.  Then again, those might not repeat themselves with the same exact situation that caused them to previously and as well, in the future--repeat themselves. 

So yes the game is random.  What I am referring to is the stats and the systems that, are developed by the authors/sellers that claim they have the stats to back them up.  Problem being, no one, not me or you or Ted or any author of a system or other 'item' for sale can tell any of us when those stats will come about in a casino live game. 

[alrelax]

Stats are fine and yes, they are correct for whatever series of shoes you ran them for.  But the problem with stats, is like I said--they are not going to translate into real-time results at the baccarat table in the casinos.  Also, run some stats and then have someone run them, as long as the cut card is placed different and as long as the deck are set up slightly different (which they have to be) they results will be somewhat different.  Even with a result of 100% each and every time, that trend/pattern/event is not going to necessarily be present in the shoes you sit down to play with real-world money.

So, the system or the seller/author of whatever publishes and/or instructs his paying students based on ratios and stats.  Fine.  I heard things like the ratios and successful stats of a  3 repeating streak is greater than a four and a four is much greater than a 5 and a 10, etc.  Of course the lower the number the higher the percentage of it holding true seems to be in baccarat, when you're talking about streaks/runs.   

And a run of say 14 repeating is astronomically against the player that is wagering on it to happen, yes I understand and agree. But they do come and they can come 2 or 3 times in a couple shoes, or they might not be present all night.  But they were in the stats that gave such low percentage of happening.  But in the next 1 or 2 or 4 shoes when you are bellied up to the table, anything and everything can happen and I continually watch the players wagering for the cut, each and every time.