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[spankmythighs]

Hi guys! I am brand new on here and a bit of a baccarat junkie. I only have 1 strategy that I use in Baccarat and it is quite simple. In Baccarat there are always more runs of 2 than 3 or more. So I only bet after 2 in a row that the 3rd will be opposite. I flat bet to win 3 units per shoe. If that fails I double on the next shoe. It is extremely successful but a bit of a grind. Works well on Dublinbet as the shoes are dealt faster than a BnM casino. I usually play more than 1 computer aswell. I sometimes also use a 3 level marty system aswell to keep the risk lower: 1,1,1,2,2,2,4,4,4,8,8,8,16,16,16 etc. once a level is completed I revert back to the beginning. Just my 2 cents but it works great. Patience is the key.

[WorldBaccaratKing]

Welcome, don't seem to bad, whatever is working for you, keep with it!

[albertojonas]

it is an even chance bet. there will be as many series of 2 as larger series.

[jsintl]

Hi guys! I am brand new on here and a bit of a baccarat junkie. I only have 1 strategy that I use in Baccarat and it is quite simple. In Baccarat there are always more runs of 2 than 3 or more. So I only bet after 2 in a row that the 3rd will be opposite. I flat bet to win 3 units per shoe. If that fails I double on the next shoe. It is extremely successful but a bit of a grind. Works well on Dublinbet as the shoes are dealt faster than a BnM casino. I usually play more than 1 computer aswell. I sometimes also use a 3 level marty system aswell to keep the risk lower: 1,1,1,2,2,2,4,4,4,8,8,8,16,16,16 etc. once a level is completed I revert back to the beginning. Just my 2 cents but it works great. Patience is the key.

Do you stop after one L or after few losses?

Is this the PB method?

[greenguy]

There are always more runs of 1 than 2 or more so why not bet against the 2's?

There are always more runs of 3 than 4 or more so why not bet against the 4's?

There are always more runs of 4 than 5 or more so why not bet against the 5's?

There are always more runs of 5 than 6 or more so why not bet against the 6's?


I don't get it, really?

[albertojonas]

There are always more runs of 1 than 2 or more so why not bet against the 2's?

There are always more runs of 3 than 4 or more so why not bet against the 4's?

There are always more runs of 4 than 5 or more so why not bet against the 5's?

There are always more runs of 5 than 6 or more so why not bet against the 6's?


I don't get it, really?

There are as many singles as series. In your terms as many runs of 1 as 2's, 3's, 4's, ... and so on. So it would be simple to bet against series larger than 2. At least in theory.

[AsymBacGuy]

Total singles will form the same amount of total streaks, obviously things are very different depending which side we are considering.

At B side, any larger streak will be prevalent over the inferior streak up to a point. The gap is doubled for every class considered (so B 3+/3 gap is double than the B 4+/4 gap and so on).
At some cut-off point any B streak class will be equally placed than larger streaks.

At P side, there's no cut-off points, so any P streak class will always be inferior to larger streaks.


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[AsymBacGuy]

We don't have to forget that at baccarat there's a very slight force shifting the outcomes on the opposite side of the last hand (Michael Schackelford, Wizard of odds).

That's why we'll get a fair amount of B singles despite and over the asymmetricity factor's value.
Maybe Worldbaccaratking could better illuminate you about this.

as.   

[greenguy]

So you're essentially betting opposite the last, but with blinkers on.

You can do better than that.

[james]

What is the maximum bet you have made so far? I presume if you lose the three 16 unit bets, you start at 1 unit.
Thanks.

[Rolex-Watch]

I don't get it, really?

It is because the FoO which rings true on all data samples.

However I would suggest the frequency between "singles and doubles" are simply too close, you can get shoes were the second line hole gap is only happens twice in a shoe.  Which is great for second line players, those that bet FLD, however you can't see around corners, so don't sweat it..

A much better way for on-line players (can't do this in a bricks 'n' mortar joint without heavy bankroll), on-line you can bet a pittance.  So run a progression, I use my own form based on a Labby, you can construct your own. Run this progression after any three streak for three bets, if you lose a lot of bets (streaky shoe) who cares, but you will want this money back at some stage.

Next; run a higher progression for bets, say 5 times or more than the first progression, should you lose three bets you have run into a six streak.

Next; pull out the big guns and make bets that the current 6 streak doesn't run beyond 9, if it does then stop betting. 

Sure you will have the odd on-line streak greater than 9, doesn't matter unless they happen back to back and frequently, but it is very unlikely for that to happen.  This is a long term strategy, hit a bad (streaky) shoe, next one should be normal with lots of runs stopping at 3, 4, 5 etc. 

As for the singles and doubles, don't worry about them, too much headache, your still making money anyway.

BTW; hit the wrong shoe and your really low progression gets battered, round up he total and move the current draw-down to the higher progressions for means of recoup and restart the lower progression.

This is what I did about a month or so ago, but where I play have really sloppy shuffle procedures which results in a lot of clumping therefore long streaks, such as a 10 streak or more every fcuking shoe and you can become frustrated and sometimes don't feel like stopping and when you think you have won cos' your side is on 8, the other side stops at 9.  Then become even more angry and hammer away at the mouse button swearing and calling them a bunch of cheating %^$&$*'s.     

Basically you see mad runs on-line that you don't see in a real world casino, I put it down to the outfit simply wanting to keep the game going, so they call in some other trainee to shuffle the cards, who doesn't do the job properly because she earns less than peanuts for a wage, there are reasons why UK operations choose to be based in the Baltic states...

(FoO = frequency of occurrence)

[Jimske]

It is because the FoO which rings true on all data samples.

However I would suggest the frequency between "singles and doubles" are simply too close, you can get shoes were the second line hole gap is only happens twice in a shoe.  Which is great for second line players, those that bet FLD, however you can't see around corners, so don't sweat it..

A much better way for on-line players (can't do this in a bricks 'n' mortar joint without heavy bankroll), on-line you can bet a pittance.  So run a progression, I use my own form based on a Labby, you can construct your own. Run this progression after any three streak for three bets, if you lose a lot of bets (streaky shoe) who cares, but you will want this money back at some stage.

Next; run a higher progression for bets, say 5 times or more than the first progression, should you lose three bets you have run into a six streak.

Next; pull out the big guns and make bets that the current 6 streak doesn't run beyond 9, if it does then stop betting. 

Sure you will have the odd on-line streak greater than 9, doesn't matter unless they happen back to back and frequently, but it is very unlikely for that to happen.  This is a long term strategy, hit a bad (streaky) shoe, next one should be normal with lots of runs stopping at 3, 4, 5 etc. 

As for the singles and doubles, don't worry about them, too much headache, your still making money anyway.

BTW; hit the wrong shoe and your really low progression gets battered, round up he total and move the current draw-down to the higher progressions for means of recoup and restart the lower progression.

This is what I did about a month or so ago, but where I play have really sloppy shuffle procedures which results in a lot of clumping therefore long streaks, such as a 10 streak or more every fcuking shoe and you can become frustrated and sometimes don't feel like stopping and when you think you have won cos' your side is on 8, the other side stops at 9.  Then become even more angry and hammer away at the mouse button swearing and calling them a bunch of cheating %^$&$*'s.     

Basically you see mad runs on-line that you don't see in a real world casino, I put it down to the outfit simply wanting to keep the game going, so they call in some other trainee to shuffle the cards, who doesn't do the job properly because she earns less than peanuts for a wage, there are reasons why UK operations choose to be based in the Baltic states...

(FoO = frequency of occurrence)

I agree about the FoO being too close to do much with.  As regards waiting for 3 LIAR isn't it just a difference of event frequency?  By waiting for LLL we are simply betting less hands.  Not going to necessarily win more hands per 100 bets.  So we could do just as well betting OLD at every event.

So poor shuffles producing clumps and long streaks?  Now we are getting into what Ellis has been saying for years.  He adds that the casino does it on purpose to thwart the player.  We can go down that road forever but the point is IF you think or believe or if in fact shuffles producing more long runs than random would dictate why not change your bet strategy to accommodate the bias?  I digress.

One could do the same bet prog that spanky is doing using any number of fixed criteria and get the same successful results unless there is a bet selection that changes the LIAR.

J

[Bayes]

Here's an idea that I've put on my TODO list, maybe someone's already tried it although the book keeping would be arduous:

Have a separate progression for each single, double, triple streak (up to say 5 or 6) on both sides. i.e., banker singles, player singles, banker doubles, player doubles etc.

I don't think the progression would need to be aggressive, perhaps a modified d'Alembert. When you have a new high balance, reset all progressions. Also, it might be worth shifting the debts around from one progression to another if things get too out of balance and you're still in the red.

[Tomla]

I play more the way Bayes does dividing things  up and I separate banker and player also

[horus]

I was sitting at a roulette terminal the other day and in the Genting Casino I visit, they have these big electronic scoreboards hanging down where you can see what's going on. The two shoes I watched would have made a killing with the 'Pit Boss' Strategy. All 2's and 3's the whole way through the shoe.