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Started by alrelax, March 06, 2017, 04:46:36 PM

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alrelax

After an extremely strong section, maybe 6-9 squares or so horizontal, then it weakens off.  When and if the point values bounce back and forth with a couple/few chop-chops.  Go for a second/double and IMO that is an ideal time that seldom fails. 
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Quote from: alrelax on March 06, 2017, 04:46:36 PM
After an extremely strong section, maybe 6-9 squares or so horizontal, then it weakens off.  When and if the point values bounce back and forth with a couple/few chop-chops.  Go for a second/double and IMO that is an ideal time that seldom fails.

I'm confused.

You keep stating for years that everything will be possible anytime and no matter what and now you are suggesting that a selected strategy "seldom fails"?

What do you mean by "seldom failure"?
That in some selected situations you'll be more right than wrong?

as.



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alrelax

That is correct, I have always stated that.  ANYTHING and EVERYTHING can happen, most certainly!  Chop-Chop the whole shoe, doubles the entire shoe, 50+ Bankers and 20 or so Players in a shoe, 50+ Players and 20 or so Bankers in a shoe, 30 ties in one shoe, 3 Fortune 7's back to back then a Banker then a Fortune 7 then a Banker then another 2 Fortune 7's back to back, and so.  Those are possible, rare in the sense they do not repeat themselves for quite some time, in fact extremely rare. 

Also Anything and Everything is a partial shoe of perfect rhythm like 1 Banker followed by numerous Players for 10 to 15 squares going horizontal.  Then in the same shoe it changes up, maybe not as quick by a perfect 'regression to the means' does come about by the end of the shoe.  Or 1's and 3's and then Chop-Chop and then nothing at all.  It is all possible with the aforesaid just being a handful of common situations and common occurrences and the first paragraph rare events that do happen, but rare.

With that said, 'seldom failures' I am referring to the majority of the times.  I can not quantify a percentage, I do not do or believe in testing in baccarat events on the computer.  Again, as I state plenty of times--testing is all fine for the event outcome on the computer.  But the small amount of trivial shoes and hands actually played by a gambler at a B&M casino will not reflect anything of resemblance to those stats derived from a computer test.  So therefore, I cannot state a percentage.  But I do like and have profited plenty from the following scenario and witnessed it numerous times as well:

A strong section, meaning numerous squares going horizontal which produce strong sections but all classified as a 'Section'.  Then when the turning point comes, if that turning point includes naturals or 4 card draws, 9 to 8, 8 to 7 or 7 to 6 and it bounces B to P at least 3 times, get ready to pounce on it.  So a strong section and then the turning point.  Say the end of the strong section was 7 Players and then a Banker with 9 over the Player 8 or even 7.  Then the Players with an 8 over the Bankers 7 or the Players 7 over the Bankers 6.  Then the Players 8 with a Bankers 7.  I would pounce on the next hand with a larger wager on the Player side for a double. 

Also those three alternating B's and P's can be replaced with 6 card draws where the prevailing B or P is brought up to 8 or 9 and the losing B or P is reduced to 0-1 or 2 or 3 or so. 

Out of the last 10 times I discovered this, I would have to say 8 successful pounces for me.  I have not kept stats on my wins/loses for this but now that I wrote about it, I will try. 
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alrelax

Quote from: alrelax on March 07, 2017, 08:15:11 AM
That is correct, I have always stated that.  ANYTHING and EVERYTHING can happen, most certainly!  Chop-Chop the whole shoe, doubles the entire shoe, 50+ Bankers and 20 or so Players in a shoe, 50+ Players and 20 or so Bankers in a shoe, 30 ties in one shoe, 3 Fortune 7's back to back then a Banker then a Fortune 7 then a Banker then another 2 Fortune 7's back to back, and so.  Those are possible, rare in the sense they do not repeat themselves for quite some time, in fact extremely rare. 

Also Anything and Everything is a partial shoe of perfect rhythm like 1 Banker followed by numerous Players for 10 to 15 squares going horizontal.  Then in the same shoe it changes up, maybe not as quick by a perfect 'regression to the means' does come about by the end of the shoe.  Or 1's and 3's and then Chop-Chop and then nothing at all.  It is all possible with the aforesaid just being a handful of common situations and common occurrences and the first paragraph rare events that do happen, but rare.

With that said, 'seldom failures' I am referring to the majority of the times.  I can not quantify a percentage, I do not do or believe in testing in baccarat events on the computer.  Again, as I state plenty of times--testing is all fine for the event outcome on the computer.  But the small amount of trivial shoes and hands actually played by a gambler at a B&M casino will not reflect anything of resemblance to those stats derived from a computer test.  So therefore, I cannot state a percentage.  But I do like and have profited plenty from the following scenario and witnessed it numerous times as well:

A strong section, meaning numerous squares going horizontal which produce strong sections but all classified as a 'Section'.  Then when the turning point comes, if that turning point includes naturals or 4 card draws, 9 to 8, 8 to 7 or 7 to 6 and it bounces B to P at least 3 times, get ready to pounce on it.  So a strong section and then the turning point.  Say the end of the strong section was 7 Players and then a Banker with 9 over the Player 8 or even 7.  Then the Players with an 8 over the Bankers 7 or the Players 7 over the Bankers 6.  Then the Players 8 with a Bankers 7.  I would pounce on the next hand with a larger wager on the Player side for a double

Also those three alternating B's and P's can be replaced with 6 card draws where the prevailing B or P is brought up to 8 or 9 and the losing B or P is reduced to 0-1 or 2 or 3 or so. 

Out of the last 10 times I discovered this, I would have to say 8 successful pounces for me.  I have not kept stats on my wins/loses for this but now that I wrote about it, I will try.

Since we no longer have the edit feature, as I was proof-reading this I made a mistake in the description in the section that is in BOLD type.  Is should have read, Banker-Player then a Banker.  I would then pounce on it to be a second/double Banker in that case.   
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Played well over 36,951 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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alrelax

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on March 06, 2017, 07:04:54 PM

That in some selected situations you'll be more right than wrong?

as.

That is a good way to put it.  And yes, as always in baccarat, nothing is guaranteed.  However, and a huge however, there are plenty of triggers if you can follow what the shoe is producing. 
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Played well over 36,951 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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alrelax

I seriously feel this is one of the most important technical 'how to' topics in Bac wagering.

Any input when you guys pounce on it and really pour it on??
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Played well over 36,951 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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alrelax

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on March 06, 2017, 07:04:54 PM
I'm confused.

You keep stating for years that everything will be possible anytime and no matter what and now you are suggesting that a selected strategy "seldom fails"?

What do you mean by "seldom failure"?
That in some selected situations you'll be more right than wrong?

as.



What do you mean by "seldom failure"?
That in some selected situations you'll be more right than wrong?

Exactly correct.

And the time to really make money in a shoe, is the time that the shoe presents itself for the
ride along'.

Not the cut, not getting on the 10th hand in a 9 streak repeating run, not attempting to get in on the 12th 'chop-chop' cut, getting in on a section that is producing itself in a submissive way, strong in the sense that it is following itself with, whatever. 

Pounce, throw in table max, hit it hard 3 or 4 or 5 times.  That is they I prevail at the game more times than others.

My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 36,951 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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