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[greenguy]

Nice work Sputnik,

But my way seems much more fun and easier given that both our ways will return a similar monetary result.

[RouletteGhost]

Sputnick

Was always interested

But do not understand it

[21 Aces]

Thanks everyone.  Will review.

What about playing only 2nd Bank?  That is, look for progressions where 1st Bank has hit and a 2nd is likely.

[alrelax]

You will have shoes where there will be an abundant of those and then there will be an equal or greater amount where you would lose your behind.  Problem being, most of us tend not to wager on a pattern/trend/dominating side until it is nearly too late or just falling off of what was dominating. 

[21 Aces]

http://sportsbettingsites.org/news/5dimes-confiscates-over-32k-balance-2500/

http://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=9&sub=101548442

It's complicated as here in communist, facist 'Merica the state decides what our money can do and we have limited choices.  I do know that on Wall Street, prime brokers/ broker/ counter party relationships are critical and they choose their clients.  If their is a complication on a trade typically it's in the best interest of a client to do the right thing.

On both sides it pays to have choices, multiple counter parties, enough capital to have some locked up in a ruling, processing.  Many brokers for example process deposits instantaneously and take days for a withdrawal to process and hit.

[jsintl]

Sputnick

Was always interested

But do not understand it

Im also interested on Sputnik March if only I can make it work flat betting.

[ADulay]

Thanks everyone.  Will review.

What about playing only 2nd Bank?  That is, look for progressions where 1st Bank has hit and a 2nd is likely.

Well, this shoe would have killed you big time.

It reads Left and Down.   Tie, Player, Tie, Bank, etc.  The final hand, not shown, was a Player.

It was a very good VDW shoe.

AD

[21 Aces]

That is, look for progressions where 1st Bank has hit and a 2nd is likely.  It's not going to be a very overweight Player shoe that is basically Player..., 1 Bank, Player..., 1 Bank, Player....

We would look for the opposite.  Bank coming down with few Player, 4's, 3's, 2's, and not jumping shoe.

[Eight Iron]

.... get on and get off quick as possible!!!....

I flat bet short sessions with a narrow win and loss limit.

I play almost daily, and I use the same limits whether I am betting real card Organic machines or hand dealt games.

No online.

Average session lasts about ten minutes.

Last twenty sessions:

6,4,4,1,2,-6,5,-1,4,3,3,3,4,-3,4,-5,3,4,3,4 = 42 units - 7.5 units commission.

[21 Aces]

I flat bet short sessions with a narrow win and loss limit.

I play almost daily, and I use the same limits whether I am betting real card Organic machines or hand dealt games.

No online.

Average session lasts about ten minutes.

Last twenty sessions:

6,4,4,1,2,-6,5,-1,4,3,3,3,4,-3,4,-5,3,4,3,4 = 42 units - 7.5 units commission.

Although what you are stating is possible, especially the pace of play...  It seems most players hold back and play below their true potential and well below it often enough.

At $1,000 unit that's over $30,000 in for just over 3 hours of playing time over 20 sessions.  10 minutes?  So you play at tables only by yourself or a few others that want to fast play?  Nobody I have seen plays like that or is capable of doing it in terms of win rate.

There was another poster who claimed very fast sessions, very tight stop, very tight trailing stop and going net up most every session.  Haven't heard from him since.

If I were doing anything close to this, I would play as much as possible through the week and buy this to start:



Then 10 more like it around the world including this:



Of course there's modifications which would take more play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdRFo71wxcU

[Ted009]

ADulay,

Do you still play baccarat using the VDW? Is it holding up pretty consistently?

Thank you,
Ted

[Eight Iron]

.... So you play at tables only by yourself or a few others that want to fast play?  Nobody I have seen plays like that or is capable of doing it in terms of win rate.

I play at full tables in CT and PA, but most of my play is on the fast Organic machines at Resorts World in Queens NY where I live.

I prefer the machines because they deal two hands per minute, I can sit out as many hands as I want, no tipping, and they are close by.

These are RW sessions.

I only averaged two units per session before commissions in those twenty sessions.

Nothing spectacular about that.

Just tight play with a low loss limit that I have a shot at winning back in my next one or two sessions.

[21 Aces]

Most conservative way to play is to walk around with drink in hand and follow the big noisy happy tables with peppered bets.


Hitch a ride on the back of the dragons, baby!

Yes.  I have to work on the game after a strong advance ahead because it is this time where you should play as strong as possible, hold ground at least and then position for the next big opportunity that somehow connects.

Conservative play is even more important where you have started to slide on a series of losses and need to get back on the winning track.