Well...I learned one thing this past week playing baccarat

marinetech · July 22, 2016, 12:39:27 PM

There is NO system in the WORLD that can consistently beat this game day after day, week after week, month after month. IMPOSSIBLE.

I played probably 30+ hours from Mon-Thur. I played shoes where you would see 1 (3), the rest was chop or terrible 2's. Sure, in hindsight, you could have killed it right? It would chop, show a 1-2 pattern, etc. Then, you would get 4-5 doubles in a row, playing for that next double and BAMMO, lose the big bet....Then you would see 1 (4) and a streak of chops, or a 4-2-1-3-1-1-2-3, etc.

NO system could beat that, none. I mean I would follow the shoe the best I could but still got hammered. At one point was down 6k, scratched my back to -1300 and finally left at 2am, after 8 hours of playing with a -2500. I was tired and out of 6 tables, they all looked the same so I threw in the white towel....

All week has been the same. Thinking back, I have tried probably 50-100 systems, realistically speaking, and I cannot think of any that would have did that great. Pit Bosses may have held its own but I don't know. Hindsight is great but when your stuck and trying to get out, it messes with you. You tend to overthink the situation.

But, that's what I have learned. The shoe is random and forget trying to play a pattern on these things. Sure, one day you won't lose. Other days, you will lose your shirt....Anyone selling a system, stay far, far, away!

Sputnik · July 22, 2016, 01:58:24 PM

John i respect you and think you are a great person as you say things as they are and you have alot of experince.
So i agree with you with one tiny twist.

As you can measuring the random distribution using the statistical exart and see how variance develop into short, medium and large waves in two directions.
The direction depend on what you bet against or with, so it can grow stronger or weaker.

After several million simulations we know the limit or World record for the worst and extreme.
That way we can note our expectaion in different situations as we would probably not break the World record during our lifte time playing the game, as that would be the same as winning the lottery.

What this does it giving you a liklyhood why you are winning or losing as you can define the expecation based upon does parameters.
If you still have the gmail adress Active when you send me "Magic Five System" i could send this work for you to study.

Cheers Patrik

ADulay · July 22, 2016, 07:01:46 PM

Quote from: marinetech on July 22, 2016, 12:39:27 PM
There is NO system in the WORLD that can consistently beat this game day after day, week after week, month after month. IMPOSSIBLE.

I played probably 30+ hours from Mon-Thur. I played shoes where you would see 1 (3), the rest was chop or terrible 2's. Sure, in hindsight, you could have killed it right? It would chop, show a 1-2 pattern, etc. Then, you would get 4-5 doubles in a row, playing for that next double and BAMMO, lose the big bet....Then you would see 1 (4) and a streak of chops, or a 4-2-1-3-1-1-2-3, etc.

NO system could beat that, none. I mean I would follow the shoe the best I could but still got hammered. At one point was down 6k, scratched my back to -1300 and finally left at 2am, after 8 hours of playing with a -2500. I was tired and out of 6 tables, they all looked the same so I threw in the white towel....

All week has been the same. Thinking back, I have tried probably 50-100 systems, realistically speaking, and I cannot think of any that would have did that great. Pit Bosses may have held its own but I don't know. Hindsight is great but when your stuck and trying to get out, it messes with you. You tend to overthink the situation.

But, that's what I have learned. The shoe is random and forget trying to play a pattern on these things. Sure, one day you won't lose. Other days, you will lose your shirt....Anyone selling a system, stay far, far, away!

Any chance of getting those shoes transcribed or posted up here?

AD

marinetech · July 22, 2016, 07:45:02 PM

AD,

i don't write anything down, simply watch and play off of the board. when i used systems i used to but not now, sorry.

tables are 50-2k. hard to employ any big progression....

i may be going to mohegan in ct for the weekend. did well last time. much different than my stuff casino......keep you posted.

21 Aces · July 22, 2016, 09:18:43 PM

Plenty of places to play that will take down high limit. Are you sure on $2,000? That is very low.

marinetech · July 23, 2016, 04:14:47 AM

Quote from: 21 Aces on July 22, 2016, 09:18:43 PM
Plenty of places to play that will take down high limit. Are you sure on $2,000? That is very low.

Very sure. Been same way for 23 years......

soxfan · July 23, 2016, 04:55:27 PM

Very difficult for a cat to win well and regular buckin up against the stingy spread between mins-maxs bets, hey hey.

21 Aces · July 23, 2016, 05:22:58 PM

Quote from: marinetech on July 23, 2016, 04:14:47 AM
Very sure. Been same way for 23 years......

Please don't take this the wrong way because it is not about us. THERE IT FN IS. THE DARK WIZARD AND HIS BLACK RIDERS (ie THE WIZARD OF ODDS) NEED TO STEP IN AND BUCK THE F UP. For you see if baccarat and all gaming is such a slam dunk profit for the house and players never win in the long run then all the capital in the world should flow to these smaller casinos or ones with tighter min max spreads and back them to the nth degree. They should be able to have wide spreads and take down huge size anytime BECAUSE NOBODY EVER WINS AND CERTAINLY NOT IN THE LONG RUN.

Wewin2222 · July 27, 2016, 06:02:36 AM

Baccarat is a beatable game. I beat the game on a regular bases. You don't have to believe me, I'm ok with that, I know what I know and it works for me.

The number one most important thing to me is to know and understand your bet selection. For example if my bet selection is to bet on the chop and the casino's job is to take my money. You can bet your behind that you want see very much chop.

I know what I like to bet on and it eliminates all the guess work.

Wewin2222

ADulay · September 01, 2016, 12:40:58 AM

Quote from: 1kingbacc on August 31, 2016, 06:41:17 PM
@marinetech , that is FALSE. I have learned and mastered a strategy to beat this game at any casino or online play..

Hmm, sounds like it's time to play "20 Questions".

I'll start.

#1 - Is this strategy that you've mastered one of your own design or is it commercial?

AD

tdx · September 02, 2016, 12:45:15 AM

1kingbac ---- as I posted on another thread.........if you are hitting 70% winners, why are you wasting time on a forum when you can be making millions online or in vegas?