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What actually works?

Chop/Alternating
Twos/Second line
Singles & Opposite side 1s-2s-3s & 4s
1s, 2s, 3s and 3s, 2s 1s
Natural & Cut
Natural & Stick
3 & Cut
4 & Cut
Tie & Stick
Tie & Cut
Series of a certain amount & Cut, etc.(Bet 1 within such)
Consistently wagering one side
All kinds of numbers (Winning/Losing Point values) & cutting or sticking, etc.
MORE.

You can sit at a baccarat table with beliefs that go by the above and you better be prepared for what will come.

You better think long and hard about subscribing to any beliefs with ritual. If you only learn one thing on a forum you better learn that!  I promise you.

Believing rituals /schedules, etc., will kill you in this game. Yes they may help you at times but applied ritualistically they will hurt you and they will hurt you without mercy. Once you subscribe to them, until you repeatedly lose your bankrolls numerous times you will not learn. That is the second thing you better learn.

All you are going to do is win 4 and lose 10 or win 3 and lose 9 or win one and lose 3 or win 5 and lose 4. But besides from that, most importantly what you will wind up doing is not capitalizing on the best opportunities that do come about within certain games of Baccarat. And those opportunities you can capitalize on with the record wins.  But you can't play both sides of the fence, I'm sorry and that is where many will disagree, but you cannot. Try as you have and then come back and give us your results with proof. It cannot be done with any kind consistency.

I guess the best way to describe it is, having that insight into a situation with the complete understanding, that it may or may not materialize. Some will say I just contradicted myself,  but not when applied to wagering within the game of Baccarat.

Contradict/Contradicting:

To deny the truth;
To deny what is being said;
To not agree with something.

Then one has to also venture into Dialetheism. Which is the view that there are Statements/Views which are both true and false.

But I am not going to get into Dialetheism because it will only expand and open the possibilities of wagering baccarat to numerous other avenues, that will seriously complicate the matter beyond what the highest majority of forum readers desire or will ever venture into anyways.

A subscription to any one thing or two or three in baccarat will be the downfall of anyone believing such things will allow them to win and to win repeatedly. They will not. The point that gets exploited and used to anyones subjectivity and 'Factual Discovered Results', (AKA: Holy Grails) will never be changed. In my opinion, those are exactly the things that cause the downfall of most everyone losing money or their incapability to make money at the game of Baccarat.

The true long-term winners at the game of baccarat have numerous things in their play, which are actually a knowledge of incorporating at least eight specific things. Those 8 things will give them advantages, once they are used correctly and within correct volumes.

[AsymBacGuy]

Good post.

Just yesterday I was talking about the importance to inglobe the most factors we can to promote a given betting  hand.

I meekly add one more factor:

- how many math advantaged hands went from a real result term perspective.

Say we bet player and we got a 7 initial point.
Then banker got an 8 or a 9.
That's ok, we didn't lose any money itlr.

Now say that the three hands we bet player have shown all standing points losing to higher banker points.
I mean the shoe we're playing at should have displayed at least one or more P math advantaged spot, thus cutting any B sequence not involving an asym hand.

Itlr our EV on Player bets is zero at least but the actual shoe will deny such percentages.
It's ok.

What's our EV on subsequent bets happening at the same shoe after knowing that math advantaged hands went "wrongly" for "long"?

First.

The probability to get another math standing point at P side will be lowered as a 38% probability is lower than a 62% probability.

Second

Whenever P is drawing, the probability to get banker to display a 3,4,5 or 6 initial point is increased.
But since a minor percentage of B hands will form those initial points category (38/62 the ratio), Player is still favorite to get a neutral EV at worst as asym hands will display a nearly 58% advantage.

Therefore when P won many disadvantaged hands, the probability to get more P hands is slightly endorsed unless a perfect balanced key cards situation will arise along the remaining portion of the shoe.

In practical terms, it means that following P hands are less disadvantaged than expected. Nonetheless, some 4s and 5s clustering could strongly help B side, thus whenever many strong math favorite hands are losing, that shoe is, imo, unplayable.

as. 

[alrelax]

Reference your last 2 paragraphs:

"Therefore when P won many disadvantaged hands, the probability to get more P hands is slightly endorsed unless a perfect balanced key cards situation will arise along the remaining portion of the shoe."   As far as the first part, yes and i have attempted to write about that and detail out examples.  This is one of the most advantageous tangible things a player can learn and use.  As far as the perfect balance of the cards remaining, there is no way to know that until tbey begin coming out. 

"In practical terms, it means that following P hands are less disadvantaged than expected. Nonetheless, some 4s and 5s clustering could strongly help B side, thus whenever many strong math favorite hands are losing, that shoe is, imo, unplayable."  As far as helping the player side or the banker side, I would say clusters of smaller cards including fours and fives, favor the players side more than the banker side no matter what side they're falling on.  As far as the math favorite hands continuously losing, I've written about that also. And I would say more than 75% of the times if the player can recognize that, he can use it to his advantage with the reverse math being applied which would be wagering against that side and going with what appears to be the less advantaged side according to how the hands were being won.

In a way it's complicated and in the way it's not. But it does play with your mind and it's hard to do for most of us at the table while it's happening, because we're emotionally involved in the game because of our money. It's probably much easier to do in practice or test or online modes and/or playing by yourself in your house. All in my opinion and experience.

[AsymBacGuy]

Reference your last 2 paragraphs:

In a way it's complicated and in the way it's not. But it does play with your mind and it's hard to do for most of us at the table while it's happening, because we're emotionally involved in the game because of our money. It's probably much easier to do in practice or test or online modes and/or playing by yourself in your house. All in my opinion and experience.[/b][/color]

Yeah, totally agree.

Thanks Al,

as.