For instance, I know that betting the decision before last loses to the "terrible twos" in a row (the second most common event statistically in a random shoe...
SO.... what mechanical bet selection can I use that will only lose to the "least occurring" event (what ever would happen the least statistically) and still make money?
Or perhaps I'm wishful thinking here and it doesn't exist :yuck: ??? >:( ;)
Quote from: audionut on October 27, 2014, 02:20:15 AM
For instance, I know that betting the decision before last loses to the "terrible twos" in a row (the second most common event statistically in a random shoe...
SO.... what mechanical bet selection can I use that will only lose to the "least occurring" event (what ever would happen the least statistically) and still make money?
Or perhaps I'm wishful thinking here and it doesn't exist :yuck: ??? >:( ;)
you're looking for what everyone who plays the game is looking for. it doesn't exist because every shoe is different. one shoe could have more chops, one more streaks, the next equal......
If everything loses to the terrible two's...look for something that wins against it lol
Quote from: audionut on October 27, 2014, 02:20:15 AM
For instance, I know that betting the decision before last loses to the "terrible twos" in a row (the second most common event statistically in a random shoe...
SO.... what mechanical bet selection can I use that will only lose to the "least occurring" event (what ever would happen the least statistically) and still make money?
Or perhaps I'm wishful thinking here and it doesn't exist :yuck: ??? >:( ;)
Hi Audionut.
I also used FLD/OLD or the TBL/OTBL before.
For example, these strategies (OLD/OTBL) will not hold if these events will suddenly shift to either Opposites or Repeats or vice-versa. I believe you understand what I am talking about.
Most bac players rely on their MM to control their losses. This is to neutralize the limitation of their strategy. There's nothing wrong with MM. It's part of your strategy towards the game but in the process, you are not really maximizing full income potential during your bac plays. All shoes have exploitable runs. The question is, can you see it ?
So going back to your question..."what mechanical bet selection can I use that will only lose to the "least occurring" event (what ever would happen the least statistically) and still make money?"
It is a bet selection that understands the different shoe combinations (shifting) happening in a particular shoe. From your post, I understand you only knew 4 in general --- Opposites, Repeats, TBL, & OTBL. This is very limiting. For you to know what would happen the least statistically, you should know at least 10 shifting of baccarat events. So far, I know between 12-15 shifting of events.
From my current bac plays, yes, there is a system that could identify these least occurring events and you can exploit it with ease. I've been doing this for almost 2 months now and I'm getting very good results. I am basing this from my own live baccarat experience for the last 2 months.
Natural 9
Quote from: Natural 9 on October 27, 2014, 03:48:54 AM
Hi Audionut.
I also used FLD/OLD or the TBL/OTBL before.
For example, these strategies (OLD/OTBL) will not hold if these events will suddenly shift to either Opposites or Repeats or vice-versa. I believe you understand what I am talking about.
Most bac players rely on their MM to control their losses. This is to neutralize the limitation of their strategy. There's nothing wrong with MM. It's part of your strategy towards the game but in the process, you are not really maximizing full income potential during your bac plays. All shoes have exploitable runs. The question is, can you see it ?
So going back to your question..."what mechanical bet selection can I use that will only lose to the "least occurring" event (what ever would happen the least statistically) and still make money?"
It is a bet selection that understands the different shoe combinations (shifting) happening in a particular shoe. From your post, I understand you only knew 4 in general --- Opposites, Repeats, TBL, & OTBL. This is very limiting. For you to know what would happen the least statistically, you should know at least 10 shifting of baccarat events. So far, I know between 12-15 shifting of events.
From my current bac plays, yes, there is a system that could identify these least occurring events and you can exploit it with ease. I've been doing this for almost 2 months now and I'm getting very good results. I am basing this from my own live baccarat experience for the last 2 months.
Natural 9
Let me guess, its the iplayforaliving holy grail that costs 500 but no one can share it without the world police arresting them and sending them to jail for 100 years? That one?
Maybe i am stupid, i am not sure, but i have been around from 2006/2007 to today and i have never seen any winning method for baccarat or roulette.
Yes i have seen members who claim they are winning, but never seen any topic or some one writing about a winning method.
So that is just lies or empty words.
For example:
No one have show proper bankroll management with proper session management with proper bet selection and staking plan that win more then you lose.
I admit that every one is better then me, even if i know i am a very clever gambler.
Cheers
Quote from: Sputnik on October 27, 2014, 11:32:28 AM
Maybe i am stupid, i am not sure, but i have been around from 2006/2007 to today and i have never seen any winning method for baccarat or roulette.
Yes i have seen members who claim they are winning, but never seen any topic or some one writing about a winning method.
So that is just lies or empty words.
For example:
No one have show proper bankroll management with proper session management with proper bet selection and staking plan that win more then you lose.
I admit that every one is better then me, even if i know i am a very clever gambler.
Cheers
Many a casino management and their peripheral employees count on just that. There is no winning system and most all regular gamblers lose more than they win. Otherwise they could not build multi hundred million dollar and billion dollar properties and pay huge payrolls each and every single week. Period. END OF STORY.
Quote from: Sputnik on October 27, 2014, 11:32:28 AM
Maybe i am stupid, i am not sure, but i have been around from 2006/2007 to today and i have never seen any winning method for baccarat or roulette.
Yes i have seen members who claim they are winning, but never seen any topic or some one writing about a winning method.
So that is just lies or empty words.
For example:
No one have show proper bankroll management with proper session management with proper bet selection and staking plan that win more then you lose.
I admit that every one is better then me, even if i know i am a very clever gambler.
Cheers
exactly, a lot of talk about making X amount of units per shoe but no proof. ALL BS in my book.................Put up or shut up. I post systems and people say they make more, yet offer no proof, comical really.....
Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 27, 2014, 12:56:46 PM
exactly, a lot of talk about making X amount of units per shoe but no proof. ALL BS in my book.................Put up or shut up. I post systems and people say they make more, yet offer no proof, comical really.....
I just know I'm going to regret getting into this morass, but here goes.
I see where there are some people who are not very happy about the fact that only a very select few will post up how and why they play the game in order to show a profit. There is a reason for that. They probably don't want to have to answer 4500 questions about the most mundane aspects of whatever it is they are doing, no matter how simple or exotic it may be.
And now on to my own personal pet peeve........
Lots of complaining about people not posting up their plays at the table for "others to learn and win".
Here's a clue. Why don't any of the people who are apparently losing, post up any of their scorecards? Perhaps having a core group of readers (that would be most of the ones here) take a look at a person's play and comment on it, would help a LOT of the readers!!
What a concept.
If a person is consisently losing, their score cards should tell them WHY and if they can't figure it out on their own, then we have plenty of clever people here who WILL point out problems.
Here's a short starter. This is a recent shoe (transcribed) that I had this month. Play it and see how you do.
If there's enough interest, we'll start a separate thread just for "working shoes".
Don't cheat yourself and fudge it. Play it "for real" and see how you do. Cover up the lines if that helps.
AD
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Weak shoe. I chart it the other way from the top going down. Regardless. There are only 57 or so hands so I will assume the beginning is just that and I rarely play the whole shoe anyways. Stop with a shoe like that around hand 40 to 45. So charting it the way I would, I would have played to hand 42 where it wound up with the 3 players repeating.
I know I would have wagered second line bets and if I did all of them I would have won 13 and lost 8 until hand 42. I know I would have wagered to cut at repeat #4 based on the shoe 'semi' consistent until the first mini run of 4. If the 4 came about out of the blue, I would never wager to cut. I personally have a tendency to win several smaller wagers and throw it all in and I probably would have done that around the 4th consecutive second line successful repeat. I don't flat bet, never.
Without being there I can't really say as I already implied. However if I played only double repeats I would have won 26 and lost 16 if I played them all.
If I played other things besides what I mentioned above I would have either broke even or lost on the 42 hands. If I stuck to my gut ad had the same gut as I do looking at it---while at the live table I would have done well.
I can't say honestly how I would have done on that shoe, it's not a great shoe in my likings. I am 100% sure I would have stopped at 1/2 way through.
Quote from: ADulay on October 27, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
I just know I'm going to regret getting into this morass, but here goes.
I see where there are some people who are not very happy about the fact that only a very select few will post up how and why they play the game in order to show a profit. There is a reason for that. They probably don't want to have to answer 4500 questions about the most mundane aspects of whatever it is they are doing, no matter how simple or exotic it may be.
And now on to my own personal pet peeve........
Lots of complaining about people not posting up their plays at the table for "others to learn and win".
Here's a clue. Why don't any of the people who are apparently losing, post up any of their scorecards? Perhaps having a core group of readers (that would be most of the ones here) take a look at a person's play and comment on it, would help a LOT of the readers!!
What a concept.
If a person is consisently losing, their score cards should tell them WHY and if they can't figure it out on their own, then we have plenty of clever people here who WILL point out problems.
Here's a short starter. This is a recent shoe (transcribed) that I had this month. Play it and see how you do.
If there's enough interest, we'll start a separate thread just for "working shoes".
Don't cheat yourself and fudge it. Play it "for real" and see how you do. Cover up the lines if that helps.
AD
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Using the method I posted the other day it lost 9 units (ride the waves). Pit bosses broke even. VERY tough shoe for "systems". Love to see a system win money on that shoe. Has everything going on in it......
If not playing a system, I would have cleaned up on that shoe. So many doubles, then singles, definitely would have made money by going with the shoe. See, a system you have to play it the same way every shoe, otherwise, if you use judgement, it isn't a system. Systems do NOT involve DISCRETION.
So, I would love to see a system beat this shoe, hell, even my old system lost -3 units on this shoe which I don't think is bad!!!
Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 27, 2014, 05:52:14 PM
. See, a system you have to play it the same way every shoe, otherwise, if you use judgement, it isn't a system. Systems do NOT involve DISCRETION.
Exactly, 1.000%!
Quote from: ADulay on October 27, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
I see where there are some people who are not very happy about the fact that only a very select few will post up how and why they play the game in order to show a profit. There is a reason for that. They probably don't want to have to answer 4500 questions about the most mundane aspects of whatever it is they are doing, no matter how simple or exotic it may be.
Bull's eye! :applause:
Natural 9
Quote from: ADulay on October 27, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
Here's a short starter. This is a recent shoe (transcribed) that I had this month. Play it and see how you do.
If there's enough interest, we'll start a separate thread just for "working shoes".
Don't cheat yourself and fudge it. Play it "for real" and see how you do. Cover up the lines if that helps.
AD
Hi AD.
I'll take the challenge. :nod:
For a start, I will not mention what system I am using and who taught me this system. :no:
I don't want to pollute this post with out of the topic conversation and I don't want to talk about a person who no longer posts here. :'(
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If I played this shoe in a real casino environment, I will end up with +74 units using a positive & negative progression. :cheer:
I don't flat-bet because I could not maximize my winnings with flat-bet. :no:
But using flat-bet, this shoe will earn +21 units (27W vs 6L) using my system. A decent profit but not an optimum profit. :nod:
Here's the summary of my bet selections:
Play 6 - Won
Play 8 - Won
Play 14 - Won
Play 15- Won
Play 17 - (Loss)
Play 18 - Won
Play 20 - Won
Play 21 - Won
Play 22 - Won
Play 23 - Won
Play 24 - Won
Play 26- Won
Play 27 - Won
Play 28 - Won* On this play, I'm ahead by +39 units. My 7-Hit Combo went in and my wins vs. losses were +13 wins against 1 loss using flat bet.
My 4-Column Approach is still hitting so I opted to continue play. Why cap my winnings if I'm still on a winning streak? I'll wait until my streak comes to an end.
Play 30 - Won
Play 32 - (Loss)
Play 33 - Won
Play 34 - Won
Play 35 - Won
Play 37 - Won
Play 39 - Won
Play 41 - Won
Play 42 - Won * On this play, I'm ahead by +69 units. My second 7-Hit Combo went in and my wins vs. losses were +21 wins against 2 losses using flat bet.
My streak has not ended so why should I quit?
Play 43 - (Loss)
Play 44 - Won
Play 45 - Won
Play 46 - (Loss)
Play 47 - Won
Play 49 - (Loss)
Play 51 - Won
Play 52 - Won
Play 54 - (Loss)
Play 56 - Won
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Do not waste your time thinking how my bet selection works. I was taught not to use trending or past events of Player/Banker. I used a different way of tracking different shoe combinations. ;)
Based on my system, this shoe shifted to different events 8 times. ;)
Natural 9 ;)
Quote from: audionut on October 27, 2014, 02:20:15 AM
For instance, I know that betting the decision before last loses to the "terrible twos" in a row (the second most common event statistically in a random shoe...
SO.... what mechanical bet selection can I use that will only lose to the "least occurring" event (what ever would happen the least statistically) and still make money?
Or perhaps I'm wishful thinking here and it doesn't exist :yuck: ??? >:( ;)
Many mechanical options exist, that
eat the top three lines and then some. The bet selection isn't the issue, the main issue is the staking plan and handling variance, followed closely by patience, composure and discipline.
Quote from: ADulay on October 27, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
Here's a clue. Why don't any of the people who are apparently losing, post up any of their scorecards? Perhaps having a core group of readers (that would be most of the ones here) take a look at a person's play and comment on it, would help a LOT of the readers!!
What a concept.
If a person is consisently losing, their score cards should tell them WHY and if they can't figure it out on their own, then we have plenty of clever people here who WILL point out problems.
I agree. :applause:
Natural 9 ;)
John,
Impressive. So pray tell, are you up overall in casino play? Do you do it for a living?
I learning so am asking those questions sincerely.
Regards
Quote from: Natural 9 on October 29, 2014, 12:28:29 PM
I was taught not to use trending or past events of Player/Banker.
Based on my system, this shoe shifted to different events 8 times. ;)
These statements appear to be contradictory, because if past events are ignored, then how can the shoe have "shifted to different events 8 times"? Or rather, maybe it did but if past events are not taken into account in the selection, how could that information have informed it?
Just wondering... ;)
The easiest thing to do in al this is ARMCHAIR QUARCTERBACK! None of us will lose, even me! LOL to the MAX! Being in a real casino environment with hands on---you will not follow what you are saying here the majority of the time, period.
Quote from: Natural 9 on October 29, 2014, 12:28:29 PM
Hi AD.
I'll take the challenge. :nod:
For a start, I will not mention what system I am using and who taught me this system. :no:
I don't want to pollute this post with out of the topic conversation and I don't want to talk about a person who no longer posts here. :'(
----------
If I played this shoe in a real casino environment, I will end up with +74 units using a positive & negative progression. :cheer:
I don't flat-bet because I could not maximize my winnings with flat-bet. :no:
But using flat-bet, this shoe will earn +21 units (27W vs 6L) using my system. A decent profit but not an optimum profit. :nod:
Here's the summary of my bet selections:
Play 6 - Won
Play 8 - Won
Play 14 - Won
Play 15- Won
Play 17 - (Loss)
Play 18 - Won
Play 20 - Won
Play 21 - Won
Play 22 - Won
Play 23 - Won
Play 24 - Won
Play 26- Won
Play 27 - Won
Play 28 - Won* On this play, I'm ahead by +39 units. My 7-Hit Combo went in and my wins vs. losses were +13 wins against 1 loss using flat bet.
My 4-Column Approach is still hitting so I opted to continue play. Why cap my winnings if I'm still on a winning streak? I'll wait until my streak comes to an end.
Play 30 - Won
Play 32 - (Loss)
Play 33 - Won
Play 34 - Won
Play 35 - Won
Play 37 - Won
Play 39 - Won
Play 41 - Won
Play 42 - Won * On this play, I'm ahead by +69 units. My second 7-Hit Combo went in and my wins vs. losses were +21 wins against 2 losses using flat bet.
My streak has not ended so why should I quit?
Play 43 - (Loss)
Play 44 - Won
Play 45 - Won
Play 46 - (Loss)
Play 47 - Won
Play 49 - (Loss)
Play 51 - Won
Play 52 - Won
Play 54 - (Loss)
Play 56 - Won
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Do not waste your time thinking how my bet selection works. I was taught not to use trending or past events of Player/Banker. I used a different way of tracking different shoe combinations. ;)
Based on my system, this shoe shifted to different events 8 times. ;)
Natural 9 ;)
All you do is talk, talk, and talk some more. You provide this forum with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. You are a WANNABEE. I would say you have NEVER played and NEVER won money in your life....
Refute what I said. Its that simple. Put up or shut up........
I could say I won 1 million units on that shoe, SOOOOOOOOO???????????
Where is the proof? ITS IN THE PUDDING!!!!! SHOW ME HOW YOU MAKE PUDDING OR GO BACK TO WATCHING SOAP OPERAS ON TV!!! Leave this forum to the REAL players looking to make money and find something that may work.
Not the unintelligent you rave about and have dreams about.....You crack me up, you really do...
Quote from: Natural 9 on October 29, 2014, 12:28:29 PM
Hi AD.
I'll take the challenge. :nod:
For a start, I will not mention what system I am using and who taught me this system. :no:
I don't want to pollute this post with out of the topic conversation and I don't want to talk about a person who no longer posts here. :'(
----------
If I played this shoe in a real casino environment, I will end up with +74 units using a positive & negative progression. :cheer:
I don't flat-bet because I could not maximize my winnings with flat-bet. :no:
But using flat-bet, this shoe will earn +21 units (27W vs 6L) using my system. A decent profit but not an optimum profit. :nod:
Here's the summary of my bet selections:
Play 6 - Won
Play 8 - Won
Play 14 - Won
Play 15- Won
Play 17 - (Loss)
Play 18 - Won
Play 20 - Won
Play 21 - Won
Play 22 - Won
Play 23 - Won
Play 24 - Won
Play 26- Won
Play 27 - Won
Play 28 - Won* On this play, I'm ahead by +39 units. My 7-Hit Combo went in and my wins vs. losses were +13 wins against 1 loss using flat bet.
My 4-Column Approach is still hitting so I opted to continue play. Why cap my winnings if I'm still on a winning streak? I'll wait until my streak comes to an end.
Play 30 - Won
Play 32 - (Loss)
Play 33 - Won
Play 34 - Won
Play 35 - Won
Play 37 - Won
Play 39 - Won
Play 41 - Won
Play 42 - Won * On this play, I'm ahead by +69 units. My second 7-Hit Combo went in and my wins vs. losses were +21 wins against 2 losses using flat bet.
My streak has not ended so why should I quit?
Play 43 - (Loss)
Play 44 - Won
Play 45 - Won
Play 46 - (Loss)
Play 47 - Won
Play 49 - (Loss)
Play 51 - Won
Play 52 - Won
Play 54 - (Loss)
Play 56 - Won
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Do not waste your time thinking how my bet selection works. I was taught not to use trending or past events of Player/Banker. I used a different way of tracking different shoe combinations. ;)
Based on my system, this shoe shifted to different events 8 times. ;)
Natural 9 ;)
You pimp a guy selling a 500 dollar system that he has the holy grail!!!! LMAO!!!!
I would pay 5k in a heartbeat if it worked, hell, I would pay 10k in a heartbeat. So, you want to make some money? Come to a casino, I will meet you and we can go from there. Its really that simple.....
Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 29, 2014, 02:22:27 PM
You pimp a guy selling a 500 dollar system that he has the holy grail!!!! LMAO!!!!
Maybe it has to do with the days in the Asian brothel business in Manhattan????? My x wife was a great teacher of the biz, LOL, god bless her, she was sharp.
Quote from: Natural 9 on October 29, 2014, 12:28:29 PM
Do not waste your time thinking how my bet selection works. I was taught not to use trending or past events of Player/Banker. I used a different way of tracking different shoe combinations.
Natural 9 ;)
No problem here with how you played it. Not really any of my business!
I showed a profit when I played it so life is good.
AD
Carnabby,
Miracles DO happen ( on the internet). Next in line for the Winning Touch the power of palm reading and interpretation of tea leaves.
ND armchair QB anything, no problem (didn't you know that?)! Palm Reading might work cause stats on past events to predict the future events sure isn't working too well. I was at the take out counter yesterday. I was wearing a Buffalo Bills T Shirt with OJ Simpson saying, 'Now What' after his acquittal in L.A. A guy says, "After seeing that Bills guy get tackled when he slowed down a tad bit and put is hand out to celebrate, I guess I would have waited till I got into the end zone and scored'". So the guy made a mistake, get on with it. It's no different when there are 12 plus Bankers in a row and the statistical guy is still flat betting quarters while the table is taking down hundreds of thousands.
Quote from: Natural 9 on October 29, 2014, 12:28:29 PM
Hi AD.
I'll take the challenge. :nod:
For a start, I will not mention what system I am using and who taught me this system. :no:
I don't want to pollute this post with out of the topic conversation and I don't want to talk about a person who no longer posts here. :'(
----------
If I played this shoe in a real casino environment, I will end up with +74 units using a positive & negative progression. :cheer:
I don't flat-bet because I could not maximize my winnings with flat-bet. :no:
But using flat-bet, this shoe will earn +21 units (27W vs 6L) using my system. A decent profit but not an optimum profit. :nod:
Here's the summary of my bet selections:
Play 6 - Won
Play 8 - Won
Play 14 - Won
Play 15- Won
Play 17 - (Loss)
Play 18 - Won
Play 20 - Won
Play 21 - Won
Play 22 - Won
Play 23 - Won
Play 24 - Won
Play 26- Won
Play 27 - Won
Play 28 - Won* On this play, I'm ahead by +39 units. My 7-Hit Combo went in and my wins vs. losses were +13 wins against 1 loss using flat bet.
My 4-Column Approach is still hitting so I opted to continue play. Why cap my winnings if I'm still on a winning streak? I'll wait until my streak comes to an end.
Play 30 - Won
Play 32 - (Loss)
Play 33 - Won
Play 34 - Won
Play 35 - Won
Play 37 - Won
Play 39 - Won
Play 41 - Won
Play 42 - Won * On this play, I'm ahead by +69 units. My second 7-Hit Combo went in and my wins vs. losses were +21 wins against 2 losses using flat bet.
My streak has not ended so why should I quit?
Play 43 - (Loss)
Play 44 - Won
Play 45 - Won
Play 46 - (Loss)
Play 47 - Won
Play 49 - (Loss)
Play 51 - Won
Play 52 - Won
Play 54 - (Loss)
Play 56 - Won
----------
Natural 9 ;)
Hello, Natural 9, I trust all is well with you.
Your posted results are, frankly, astonishing:
33 bets placed, winning 27 while losing only 6 bets for an amazing 82% strike rate.
As an experienced Bac player, I find your results simply remarkable. And so I did....
I am floored by the amount of wagers you guys win! Never saw anything like it! I have played long and hard in many high limit rooms around the country with players having decades of experience. No one wins like that. But hey, new generation, new stats and methods. If you keep it up one of two things will happen:
1) All the casinos will pull baccarat for good; or
2) They will soon be building more casinos in Atlantic City.
Quote from: Jimske on October 29, 2014, 09:19:46 PM... there is a subjective nature to the game that cannot be explained.
What? But it seems to have outlived roulette.
Flat betting OTBL wins 7, but I saw the shoe before I played it and was able to select what I thought was the best bet selection. In my opinion, this doesn't really count. I can pick the $200,000,000 lottery numbers on Sunday morning after they are posted in the newspaper.
Check out the system I found! I posted it, it's great! I'm off to the ATM to get out $100 and race off a couple hundred miles to a casino.
If you believe natural9 and his GURU for 500, I have a bridge in BROOKLYN FOR SALE AND ITS CHEAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
I can AFFORD to get the services of a baccarat mentor, so what's the big deal ? :whistle:
Natural 9 8)
Quote from: gr8player on October 29, 2014, 08:50:08 PM
Hello, Natural 9, I trust all is well with you.
Your posted results are, frankly, astonishing:
33 bets placed, winning 27 while losing only 6 bets for an amazing 82% strike rate.
As an experienced Bac player, I find your results simply remarkable. And so I did....
Hi Gr8player.
My results broke lots of egos [smiley]aes/cry.png[/smiley] out here but that's just the truth. :nod:
I was taught to attack the game in a different perspective. C:-)
This is the reason my results are different from the majority. :thumbsup:
Nice talking to you Gr8. I wish you all the best. ;)
Natural 9 [smiley]aes/headphones.png[/smiley]
Quote from: Natural 9 on October 30, 2014, 04:51:18 AM
Hi Gr8player.
My results broke lots of egos [smiley]aes/cry.png[/smiley] out here but that's just the truth. :nod:
I was taught to attack the game in a different perspective. C:-)
This is the reason my results are different from the majority. :thumbsup:
Nice talking to you Gr8. I wish you all the best. ;)
Natural 9 [smiley]aes/headphones.png[/smiley]
Where is the proof. You keep avoiding it. You look like a complete unintelligent but I am sure you are used to it by now. Carry on, while we sit back and enjoy the tales of 500 mentors that make you rich!!!!
You certainly make me chuckle!
Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 30, 2014, 04:55:37 AM
Where is the proof. You keep avoiding it. You look like a complete unintelligent but I am sure you are used to it by now. Carry on, while we sit back and enjoy the tales of 500 mentors that make you rich!!!!
You certainly make me chuckle!
WBK,
I don't know you and I can't recall anything that I've done you wrong. :no:
Like I said, I can afford to pay USD540 for the services of a baccarat mentor, so what's the big deal on you? ???
It's my money and it has nothing to do with yours. [smiley]aes/money.png[/smiley]
Sorry but, is it because I turned down your offer of 100 to get Alvin's system? :no:
I am honoring my agreement with Alvin's copyrighted work and I stand firm on this. C:-) :nod: :applause:
Or, is it because your system did not do well with AD's challenge shoe? [smiley]aes/cry.png[/smiley]
Again, it has nothing to do with me. It's your system or whatever it is. :no: :nope:
Natural 9 8)
Why do you guys keep going on and on?
Quote from: alrelax on October 30, 2014, 05:43:58 AM
Why do you guys keep going on and on?
You can ask WBK directly. :nod:
He's the one having issues. :whistle:
Natural 9 ;)
[mod] @ Natural 9 and WorldBaccaratKing. Stop it the pair of you. It takes two to continue an argument so if one of you was mature enough NOT to bite back then the other one would soon pull its horns in.
Simply agree to disagree and leave each other alone. (Please.)
Ignore this warning and expect a consequence! [/mod]
The least occurring event can very well turn into a dominate event in 1 or 2 or 3 shoes. You can run your shoes and analyze them anyway you want. You can suddenly have the least occurring baccarat events (identifiable or not) happen on the next several hands. The majority of the times, baccarat does what you least expect it to do anyways.
Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 30, 2014, 06:34:56 PM
are you his secret lover? I stated the facts and you support the clown he touts for 500? I say you are ON HIS PAYROLL BOYYYYYYYY
You threaten me like I will lose a wink of sleep not being on this board!!!! LOL, no one talks baccarat ANYHOW!! You taLk about 500 dollar systems!
So, PUNISH ME MASTER< I LIKE IT ROUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Right on the ragged edge, dude.
AD
Quote from: ADulay on October 30, 2014, 09:44:00 PM
Right on the ragged edge, dude.
AD
Why was my message deleted, can't I state I agree with someone? Are the mods upset / offended when members disagree with them, are they that power hungry, that any opposing view point needs to be removed / censored.
John, it was all disrespect, nothing worthwhile or funny. The poster was only chastising and asking to be banned or punished. Just taking away from the board is all is all it was about.
Letts setup an section for " working shoes ", i like to see or have more shoes from other people and see or practise with them.
Preferable shoes from Real live casino.
Carlitos 8)
Thanks :thumbsup:
Is the second hand that much different to bet on??
Carlitos 8)