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What makes no sense is others posting about casino cheating
« on: February 12, 2018, 09:18:59 PM »
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  • I read occasionally a few of the topics on other message boards and I have noticed numerous ones about ShuffleMaster and automatic shuffling machines.  Pretty much all the same.  How the casinos cheat and how the machines can be programmed to set-up any kind of deal and shoe presentment or allivation of certain trends/patterns, etc., the casino desires.

    Okay, multi-billion dollar corporations subject to huge civil and strict criminal penalties jeopardize their licenses with their state gaming control boards to manipulate the baccarat games.  Sure, yeah right.  Besides from having immediate members of my very own family employed by State Casino Gaming Rules and Compliance Divisions, I know better than believing the dribble people post and have convinced themselves of with no evidence or proof whatsoever. 

    I don't defend casinos.  It is just that people repeat and believe postings on these other boards.  Completely made up or completely believed rubbish.  That is my point. 

    You know, I have mentioned it before and no one comments on it.  Why is it when someone posts something and someone answers and lays out concrete evidence and info as to the contrary proving that popular person dead wrong, not much if anything is said???  Why is that, why? 

    All you have to do is buy a few decks of cards, put them in order, any order you want and cut them.  Then run the shoe out.  Sure will take you a few hours of time, but if you got the guts and the balls to post rubbish and get people to 'wow' you, why not prove your are right?  Why?  Please answer.  Easy to type it out, accuse and cause all kinds of 'wowing' and praise of how you uncovered something no one is doing anything about, but in all actuality there is nothing wrong with a ShuffleMaster machine.  Once the deck is cut, the entire order of the cards are changed, especially in baccarat.  One section of the deck being moved to the rear, changes everything.  It can not and will not be the same as any machine set it up.  Impossible.  110%.

    And I don't know about your local casino, but just about any casino I have ever been to and asked the floor to let the dealer do a quick mini shuffle of a deck taking out of a Shufflemaster machine, I was never turned down.  But the real bottom line is, once that deck is cut and the front section moved, it is changed.  Then you have a burn card and always a different amount of cards to be burnt as well.  Why is it people that post and claim player rights, etc., have no proof as to the civil and criminal accusations they are posting happen with certainty at these casinos??





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    Re: What makes no sense is others posting about casino cheating
    « Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 10:19:57 PM »
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  • Gaming Gone Insane - Baccarat Edition
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    Although there is cheating and rigging that occurs, the clear majority of houses are completely fair in all aspects.  It completely redlined me after the Vegas incident that some aspects of the media went zero to blaming the gaming industry in 3 seconds for everything that happened.  'Nobody ever wins, and casinos are just a vehicle for money laundering, and...'.

    It's like getting furious with a ski resort for having double diamond + ski runs.  Maybe I should go over to the Dark Wizard's joint and make a few notes.   :nod:
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    Re: What makes no sense is others posting about casino cheating
    « Reply #2 on: February 12, 2018, 10:41:10 PM »
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  • The guy(s) are complete jerk offs and off the wall with their accusations as well as their 'beat-the-casino' rubbish.  What they preach is pretty far from the truth and open-ended fairy tales.  They outright claim to 'beat-the casino' and I will leave it at that.

    If you go on their website and post something actual and don't join them in their parade to recruit paid members, you will be banned.

    The owner of their website actually called his local police department and attempted to have me arrested because  I requested he take down certain posts I made, of which he did some and left others up.  He is in cohorts with a person I know that was friends with another website owner and befriended him at one time and that owner lost hundreds of thousands of dollars to the casinos and is actually in debt to at least a half a million dollars to various Vegas casino, which is a criminal action not to repay a marker, etc.  Then when that person went belly up of course Keith's cohort disavows knowing and past association with the guy, LOL.  Yeah right.  Great website and great people.  They are scum bags, IMO and my personal knoweldge of them.

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    Re: What makes no sense is others posting about casino cheating
    « Reply #3 on: March 01, 2018, 04:48:52 PM »
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  • It's called justification.

    It's not my fault I lost, it must be the shuffling machine.
    The airball machine was rigged.
    The ref cheated and the other players got away with murder.

    Same old, same old.
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    Re: What makes no sense is others posting about casino cheating
    « Reply #4 on: March 01, 2018, 11:52:45 PM »
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  • The only games the casino can "fix" with a phony shufflemaster shuffle machine are blackjack where the dealer will get a picture card face up 70% of the time and the customer gets a 15 or 16 stiff  70 % of the tine.............or the novelty games where the shuffle is set so that large ( $250,000 or more ) jackpots are never hit............but why risk your gaming license to do this when you have the advantage anyway ?

    Baccarat really can't be fixed because the casino doesn't know how customers will bet..........the only thing they could do is set the shuffle so there are no long banker or player runs.....but that will soon become apparent  and customers will just wait for a run of 2 or 3 or 4 and then bet against it.

    However having said that, you would have to be an unintelligent to play an online casino, and you would deserve to lose ( I'm not talking about where you play against a real dealer online....which I think the island of Malta has )

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