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[Garfield]

Just want to see how people here would do when facing a bad shoe with 4,5,6 or more LIAR.

[Albalaha]

A correct MM will be ready to face such things and not get struck at such outputs that can arise at any point of time.

[greenguy]

All three are valid, which one to use would depend on the game you're playing at the time.

IMO stop / pause is probably the weakest option of the three.

[Garfield]

I'm thingking about option number 2 and 3. But what I've experienced with option 2 that is even when I reversed the bs no matter what I kept on losing. Like the whole world is on conspiracy against me. LoL

While with option 3, well I think I need to learn to hold myself.

Would like to hear more from you guys.

[bacply]

Personally, when I lose 3lar, I stop and virtually bet until a win. Then begin bets again.  I always bet minimum until win, then I use progression.  I never chase unless I am ahead in the shoe.

[Lung Yeh]

Remember Shar Chi phase my friend

[alrelax]

I don't care who you are or what MM you are using.  MM will not correct your wrong placement of wagers.  MM can only regulate how much you will wager (one the next winning or losing decision) if you religiously employ it.

The problem with MM is it will not allow you to recover or capitalize when the timing is right if you fail to go with your gut or whatever properly can pick which side to be on. 

Don't get me wrong, I use it and have my own, (1/3--1/3--1/3) but when the timing is right or I have an opportunity I want to roll with, nothing stops me.  I actually employ two MM at the same time and often they work.  The final factor as always, is how many wagers and how long I stay at the table playing. 

[21 Aces]

Not currently, but should be for me.



Within the past week I have played in progression where one side became max dominant:
Natural 9
Natural 9
Natural 9
9
Natural 8
Natural 8

Oh you don't like that?  How about a...
Natural 9

The first one was more deadly because some opposite side mixed in and the second was a pair of long side Dragons.   Counter these and one can easily drop several bets fast.

[alrelax]

Would you like to know how many times one side or both sides cut to the other, each and every time a natural was the winning decision???

[21 Aces]

Would you like to know how many times one side or both sides cut to the other, each and every time a natural was the winning decision???

Natural 8's and 9's, Win Margins, and Ties
http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/natural-8's-and-9's-win-margins-and-ties/

[alrelax]

Doesn't matter in the long run or after your shoe is finished.  You can have 12 ties in any given shoe and yes, after every tie it would cut to the opposite side and then again, you could have 12 ties and after each and every one, would be continued banker or player, the same side prevailing.  Then again you coul dhave 3 ties cut to the opposite side and stick with the same side continuing to win after the other 9 or any other comboination. 

You can have the same effect with naturals or totals of zero or any other winning numbers or patterns, etc. 

Yes, within a shoe it might work for a specific period of time or it very well might backfire on you.  There is no consistent system that a player can follow that the majority of shoes would prove you right. 

Just as many cuts or sticks to the opposite side or continuing on the last winning side might happen within a shoe or not happen. 

A last winning decision cannot and will not and will never determine with certainty the next hand.  If it did, the game would casino. 

[AsymBacGuy]

A correct MM and a strict strategic plan will be ready to face such things and not get struck at such outputs that can arise at any point of time.

This.

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[alrelax]

As,

Hopefully the 'strict strategic plan' is better than the one NYC had on the morning on September 11th, 2001.

[AsymBacGuy]

As,

Hopefully the 'strict strategic plan' is better than the one NYC had on the morning on September 11th, 2001.

Sadly from the other part it worked very well....

as.