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[Rolex-Watch]

Some are able to spot the scams faster than others

[esoito]

@RW:  And some of us have learned that having suspicions isn't always enough to condemn outright.

[Thankfully most Western courts err on the side of caution and don't condemn someone just on suspicion.]

Sometimes 'giving the benefit of the doubt' is enough for a scammer to eventually over-reach and reveal themselves in their true colours.

[Natural 9]

Baccarat is such a delicious and frustrating game. Going mano a mano vs a Casino is the ultimate for me. I hold my own against them, but not by much. In comparison to others, my results aren't so bad. I admire persons who develop methodologies that result in positive results for themselves. Is there anything wrong with these persons trying to market these same skills to others? We are all adults here. So, it our own choice whether to take them up on their offer. If it works out for a person, great! If not, are you any worse off than before trying the numerous others system you purchased ?

Hope anyone who has been mentored by Alvin has been successful. As well as anyone who has purchased other "systems" in the market place.

Wish negative people would stop the bashing. It can come from a place within them that either they are frustrated that what they have been trying isn't working. Or, they are jealous that a person has come up with a way to beat a casino (temporarily), and is showing others to do the same.

Joey

Hi Joey.

I'm one of the members of Alvin. I joined his baccarat mentoring program only last May of this year.

Although, it took me three months to fully understood all the principles behind his Precision Baccarat Method, I got no regrets joining his program. The guy is indeed true to his claims. IMHO, he really was able to crack baccarat.

Here's the coverage of his program. It's enough to make you a better if not, the best baccarat player over that baccarat tables. The $540 investment is worth it. I got no regrets. If you wanted to further improve your baccarat skills, I highly recommend his program. 


Table of Contents

Acknowledgement
Preface: Be In Control of Your Financial Future
Rules of the Game
Day 1: The Beginning of Your Baccarat Journey
Day 2: The Importance of Charting
Day 3: The Win-Loss Adjusting Progression (WiLAP)
Day 4: The Winning Strategy - Bet Selections
Day 5: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Neutral Codes
Day 6: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Opposite-Repeat Codes
Day 7: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Overlapping Triplets
Day 8: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Grey Shaded Areas
Day 9: Money Managment - How To Build A Massive Bankroll
Day 10: Precision Baccarat: The Simple Point-Value Method
Day 11: Playing Baccarat For A Living
Day 12: Casino Countermeasures Against System-Players Like Us
Day 13: The Game Of Chance Versus Science
Day 14: What To Expect In The Beginning
Epilogue: See You In The Casinos

Btw, I started applying his system on live plays last month and so far, so very good! I'm loving it! 


Natural 9

[Natural 9]

Some are able to spot the scams faster than others

Hi Rolex-Watch.

As a member of Alvin's program, I am telling you the guy is legit. 



Natural 9

[Natural 9]

@RW:  And some of us have learned that having suspicions isn't always enough to condemn outright.

[Thankfully most Western courts err on the side of caution and don't condemn someone just on suspicion.]

Sometimes 'giving the benefit of the doubt' is enough for a scammer to eventually over-reach and reveal themselves in their true colours.

Hi esoito.

I also asked Alvin why he stopped posting threads on this forum.

His simple reply was, "Members there are not yet ready for this baccarat breakthrough."

Fyi, his mother underwent a successful open-heart surgery last month.

Because of this incident, I was able to learn from two more baccarat mentors under his program.

You see, I got my money's worth. I'm very glad I am part of his baccarat breakthrough.



Natural 9

[WorldBaccaratKing]

Hi esoito.

I also asked Alvin why he stopped posting threads on this forum.

His simple reply was, "Members there are not yet ready for this baccarat breakthrough."

Fyi, his mother underwent a successful open-heart surgery last month.

Because of this incident, I was able to learn from two more baccarat mentors under his program.

You see, I got my money's worth. I'm very glad I am part of his baccarat breakthrough.



Natural 9

if its doing so good why not share it?

[WorldBaccaratKing]

natural9 and iplayforaliving are the same person or are buddies. can it be any more obvious?

[Albalaha]

Table of Contents

Acknowledgement
Preface: Be In Control of Your Financial Future
Rules of the Game
Day 1: The Beginning of Your Baccarat Journey
Day 2: The Importance of Charting
Day 3: The Win-Loss Adjusting Progression (WiLAP)
Day 4: The Winning Strategy - Bet Selections
Day 5: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Neutral Codes
Day 6: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Opposite-Repeat Codes
Day 7: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Overlapping Triplets
Day 8: The Methodology That "Rocked" The Casinos - The Grey Shaded Areas
Day 9: Money Managment - How To Build A Massive Bankroll
Day 10: Precision Baccarat: The Simple Point-Value Method
Day 11: Playing Baccarat For A Living
Day 12: Casino Countermeasures Against System-Players Like Us
Day 13: The Game Of Chance Versus Science
Day 14: What To Expect In The Beginning
Epilogue: See You In The Casinos

Seems like a good tutorial. Why doesn't he write all this in form of a book? If his contents are so good, he can become an international bestseller like Thorpe.

[Natural 9]

if its doing so good why not share it?

Hi WBK.

Haven't you read our Forum Rules? 

Rule #6 is the answer to your question. 

I got Alvin's complete system because I joined his baccarat mentoring program. 

I respect the guy and his copyrighted work.   

I don't want to be the reason why this site will be shut down because I posted Alvin's system here. 

Also, I don't think VLS will tolerate this action. He knows the consequences of such action. 



Natural 9 

[Natural 9]

natural9 and iplayforaliving are the same person or are buddies. can it be any more obvious?

WBK,

I just hope this is not a retaliation for not giving you Alvin's materials.

I already gave you my explanation on my PM to you.

Here's my Transaction ID: 25803866Z4155781S to Alvin's baccarat mentoring program.

Anybody can verify it anytime.



Natural 9

P.S. And yes, after learning that the guy is legit and his system really works over that baccarat tables under real casino environment, I am treating him as one of my close friends.

[Natural 9]

There's something fishy going on here, I'm convinced of it. Yesterday I uploaded some results of an analysis on 1000 baccarat shoes showing that two of alrelax's "key wagers" didn't seem to hold much water. Leapyfrog also made some mildly critical contributions to that thread. Next thing I know the entire thread was deleted by alrelax. Maybe alrelax just didn't like being criticized, but anyway I intend to re-post my results in my own thread where they can't be deleted. I was going to do it today, but haven't had time.

I've no idea whether this "Alvin" character is "alrelax", it may just be a coincidence that both names start with the same letters.

Hi Schoolman.

You can add ADulay, Albalaha, Agesta1, AsymBacGuy, Azuleiro, Audionut, Abc123, Alexandro...

Let's go with the letter N...NathanDetroit, Nowun...

Are these forum names one and the same person?

I can't help myself laughing!     

Let me end this with a quote...

"Suspicion is a heavy armor and with its weight, it impedes more than it protects." - Robert Burns 



Natural 9 

[esoito]

[mod] Perhaps now the thread can get back to further productive discussions. With a user name like WorldBaccaratKing we can perhaps look forward to some positive contributions and insights into 'winning ways' from our new member. [/mod]

[Schoolman]

Hi Schoolman.

You can add ADulay, Albalaha, Agesta1, AsymBacGuy, Azuleiro, Audionut, Abc123, Alexandro...

Let's go with the letter N...NathanDetroit, Nowun...

Are these forum names one and the same person?

I can't help myself laughing!     

I meant to say start with the same two letters - al. Together with the other factors, I don't think that makes me so paranoid as you imagine.

[Albalaha]

Every new member talking too loud, assertive, suggestive, promoting or negating strange ideas makes me feel that it is an old cat in new hat.

[Rolex-Watch]

Hi Rolex-Watch.

As a member of Alvin's program, I am telling you the guy is legit. 



Natural 9

Baccarat is random, it doesn't matter what anybody writes, after you see this or that you bet X.  Because with every hand you have a 50% chance of being right or wrong.  Also; anybody doing well playing Baccarat or any other game for that matter does not take to the internet to share, sell his secrets.  Any person winning on a consistent basis becomes very self-centred, you enjoy the fruits of your labour and you don't tolerate fools inside or out of any casino.  You don't take to message boards looking to hawk your system and all the issues that will bring.  Please pull the other one.

@RW:  And some of us have learned that having suspicions isn't always enough to condemn outright.

[Thankfully most Western courts err on the side of caution and don't condemn someone just on suspicion.]

You should tell that to the innocent Brits that ended up in Guantanamo bay, or even Barry George.  I thought things were clearly obvious when three new members signed up to comment on the same thread (two only hours apart).  Maybe I've been around longer than you, anybody on internet forums for longer than five minutes have all witnessed these games played out many times in the past. 


Math is great like that. Once it's been proven that no method exists to do what you claim it's not necessary to go through the details of your system to prove that it doesn't work. You claim that it does something which can be proven impossible, therefore, your claim is false. The details don't matter.