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[COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
« on: September 02, 2014, 09:10:45 pm »
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  • A concerned user voiced:
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    […] moderators are over deleting posts and I happen to agree. All you have to do is look at current deleted posts and point out the infractions? Come on! lets not have another type of board where someone deleted anything that wasn't to his liking. Is it possible to have mods tone down the deleting, please?

    Let's have a council to hear feedback in order to act properly upon it. As in the game itself, this board is flexible and open to checks and balances.
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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #1 on: September 02, 2014, 11:16:15 pm »
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  • Just to clarify...

    As Victor previously noted, there are different levels of moderation:

    * Thread moderator (topic starter)
    * Section moderator (blog/section owner)
    * Global moderator
    * Admin...

    He also noted that there are instances where people can remove things to their own liking (i.e. in their own thread, in their own section), while the global staff are a more "catch-all" group who, to use Victor's own words, are "...caring for having rules complied board-wide."


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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #2 on: September 03, 2014, 12:18:40 am »
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  • I believe that you will find that in the majority of cases, the deleted posts are from the person who originated the thread!

    Of course obvious spam messages are deleted, but hopefully nobody even sees those before they get whacked.

    There are several members across a few of the gambling sites who seem to relish being able to delete posts in their own threads as well as THEIR OWN MESSAGES!!

    I don't understand the necessity to delete the run of the mill message traffic.   Those are the kinds of things that turn a sterile forum message board into a gambling community.    The continuity of thought is important, even if it drifts off topic for a few posts.  There obviously was something earlier to move the topic a bit before returning to the original process.

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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #3 on: September 03, 2014, 01:15:00 am »
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  • So, would this be correct OR not correct? >>

    We have Bob and Larry. Bob starts a thread.

    Larry responds to Bob's roulette method..... "That's a great idea Bob, I never looked at it that way, thanks for sharing and BTW, have a great weekend".

      Bob has the power to delete Larry's post? Am I understanding this correctly?

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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #4 on: September 03, 2014, 02:55:37 am »
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  • Do messages have to be completely removed from the public view? Why not just moved to be voted if they stay or go? Let this be decided by the community.

    I mean: the creators of topics can leave them out of the threads but should not remove them from the view of others.

    Of course if you have 4 letter insults it must be removed immediately. But I refer to the posts that are not offensive but perhaps misplaced. Published in an topic that does not belong.

    If all posts are placed where they are given a second chance maybe more people are motivated and the forum can get the status of being perceived as balanced and not the status of the Hitler regime, where any offense that the fuhrer of the thread does not like is removed. Without further discussion.
    say things directly to show respect for other people's time. Walter.

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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #5 on: September 03, 2014, 04:53:20 am »
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  • It has a very simple solution. Topic Moderators or even global moderators should have only power to make a post hidden and not to delete. Power to delete a topic or post should only be with the admin.
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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #6 on: September 03, 2014, 01:24:14 pm »
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  • Users other than moderators (I mean global moderators and admin) should have access only to delete their own posts and not posts that are posted by others irrespective of whether they have started the topic or it is their blog. There is already a button called "Report to Moderator" which can be used to inform the global moderators and admin regarding personal abuse or irrelevance and they can take a call if a polite notice to someone who posted inappropriate in a topic by the starter of topic is ignored.

    I think we are all grown-ups and take a bit of hit on the face.

    For global moderators to delete a post there should be a defined rule within the community which governs these like persistent personal attacks, spamming etc. 

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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #7 on: September 03, 2014, 04:18:32 pm »
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  • So, would this be correct OR not correct? >>

    We have Bob and Larry. Bob starts a thread.

    Larry responds to Bob's roulette method..... "That's a great idea Bob, I never looked at it that way, thanks for sharing and BTW, have a great weekend".

      Bob has the power to delete Larry's post? Am I understanding this correctly?

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    Sooooooo, I am correct?

    If a person posts something that in no way, shape or form is insulting OR "you can't win" OR spam etc., a mod, topic mod (I don't care what your title is here) can either delete or make a post "hidden" (what a joke that is).....for absolutely NO reason, correct?

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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #8 on: September 03, 2014, 04:48:59 pm »
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  • Sooooooo, I am correct?

    I confirm that I can do this.

    As the moderator of a section I have used or perhaps misused it more than once. But I believe it is right to cut off-topics before they spread. If I want to have a focused productive topic it must be done. The downside is that it is completely erased. My complaint is that the erased post should be moved to its own separate topic.

    Two buttons: 1. delete, 2. expel to its own thread.
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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #9 on: September 03, 2014, 05:50:59 pm »
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  • (lol) I'm trying to word this correctly, help me out man.

    If a person *DOES NOTHING WRONG*, their post STILL can be deleted, correct?

    Ken
    Without a decent bet selection and the proper roulette experience, you don't have success, you have a hobby. There is no "Auto Re-bet" button in the ACTUAL world of roulette. Its B&M or take up stamp collecting. Don't let my honesty offend you. Haters will always hate. The saddest thing in life is wasted talent. ((If you're not already a genius, don't bother with roulette. The world needs plenty of ditch diggers))

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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #10 on: September 03, 2014, 07:16:47 pm »
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  • If a person *DOES NOTHING WRONG*, their post STILL can be deleted, correct?

    Yes, it is so.

    You post in my library section and I can erase everything you post up to your good morning greetings. The remove button appears on all messages.
    say things directly to show respect for other people's time. Walter.

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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #11 on: September 03, 2014, 07:59:07 pm »
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  • ......and this is a fair POLICY why?

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    Without a decent bet selection and the proper roulette experience, you don't have success, you have a hobby. There is no "Auto Re-bet" button in the ACTUAL world of roulette. Its B&M or take up stamp collecting. Don't let my honesty offend you. Haters will always hate. The saddest thing in life is wasted talent. ((If you're not already a genius, don't bother with roulette. The world needs plenty of ditch diggers))

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    « Reply #12 on: September 03, 2014, 08:45:08 pm »
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  • ......and this is a fair POLICY why?

    Ken

    I know that I am not the most qualified to answer but I think it was due to specific needs of members at other times when they had needs to a response to what was happening to them.

    If my memory serves me correctly the sections was because they had abusive people and the owners of sections had to wait until a global moderator went through the topic to put order. Being just watching the abuse without being able to do anything about it in their space. After that discontent it was established that the owners of the sections were moderators and abuse ceased. Because they were deleted immediately.

    The moderator of the topic also emerged as another season of abuse in one of the previous forums. I do not remember which one, sorry. It was something like this: we now have a thousand moderators in this forum. Then users could delete without waiting for a moderator. The wave of abuse was interrupted but the door was opened to over-erasing by the members.

    Now the question is if you could return to the politics of the few global moderators against the world? I have no problem keeping my section free from abuse, and my threads too. To somehow help maintain a better space. Everyone watching one small piece of the forum.

    I would not want to lose my ability to help, I just ask to have a button to delete the post of insults definitely and another button to defer posts that have nothing to do with the subject to their own space. to keep the original thread limpid.

    Is this too much to ask?
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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #13 on: September 04, 2014, 01:38:54 am »
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  • Insults, yes. But if Bob Smith posts something on your thread that is on topic and not insulting......I find it WRONG to delete Bob's post simply because you may not like Bob, that's my only point.

    I think rules such as these, might make people post a bit less, especially if they are slow typers, they put a lot of time into their thoughts/post and BAM, the post is gone. Sorry, I find that more insulting.

    I agree 1000000%, delete the goofs that constantly say..."you can't win with this game, stop playing, where is your advantage".

    Ken
    Without a decent bet selection and the proper roulette experience, you don't have success, you have a hobby. There is no "Auto Re-bet" button in the ACTUAL world of roulette. Its B&M or take up stamp collecting. Don't let my honesty offend you. Haters will always hate. The saddest thing in life is wasted talent. ((If you're not already a genius, don't bother with roulette. The world needs plenty of ditch diggers))

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    Re: [COUNCIL] Post Removal Policies Feedback
    « Reply #14 on: September 05, 2014, 11:35:13 am »
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  • Nice debate. So, what's the verdict?
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