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Offline Vic

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Re: [COUNCIL] What constitutes "hinting" by a member?
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2014, 06:17:04 pm »
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  • I'm back. Thanks for taking care of the fort, you guys rock.

    Now let's focus on the re-wording of our rule #7. What do you suggest as a replacement?

    Should we absorb the spirit from Sputnik's unambiguous post?

    Let's comment! We are malleable and always willing to improve :)
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    Re: [COUNCIL] What constitutes "hinting" by a member?
    « Reply #16 on: December 18, 2014, 07:29:45 pm »
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  • Regarding sharing game results, I don't know if it will suffice, but there's a BetServer project over at the software site.

    Basically, what I have in mind is a decentralized server anyone can run in their computer for inviting others to join the games and chat in real time. In substance to avoid the "big brother is watching you" tune.

    We can of course run a 24/7 BetServer in our website to act somewhat centralized, but the main idea of having a free BetServer anyone can run independently sticks.

    Time of completion depends entirely on how successful the subscriptions at the software site are. We are merely awaking to the new business model of giving software away and charging for services. We should have a realistic estimate of actual success on January too.
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    Re: [COUNCIL] What constitutes "hinting" by a member?
    « Reply #17 on: December 18, 2014, 10:18:49 pm »
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  • Bayes and Sputnik have pointed to the crux of the issue:

    Ideally, (and this is what Stef had put in place just prior to closing his forum) there would be some way of allowing the braggers and system sellers 'put up or shut up. I'm not against system selling per se. A system seller doesn't necessariy equate to "scammer", although in the case of overblown claims it's highly likely that the seller knows very well that his system will not perform as advertised (why sell the goose which lays the golden egg?).


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    # Hinting mean that some brag about how good he is or what good method he has with out showing any example.
    For example a guy who talks down to others methods and in the same time claim he know better ways with out showing any example.
     # Put up or shut up.



    In other words, put up or shutup basically means:

    If you claim this that or the other results/profits for your system/method/whatever you call it, then if you do not provide irrefutable substantiation (properly documented results, preferably endorsed by a reputable third-party) then your post will be removed.


    This wording perhaps needs a bit of tweaking, but I think the spirit of what we're trying to achieve with the current 'hinting Rule' is made abundantly clearer now.







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    Re: [COUNCIL] What constitutes "hinting" by a member?
    « Reply #18 on: December 19, 2014, 03:30:07 pm »
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  • Want a "winning" system spelled out for you?

    Bet TBL.  Beats everything except 2's.   What more needs to be explained?

    Some will think it the best "system" play ever.  Some will think it a joke.  Some will work with it to "solve" the 2's problem.

    Your mileage may vary.

    AD (in an odd mood this morning)
     

    All,

      It has been brought to my attention that several of the members here seem to think I was posting up "The Holy Grail" with my jab at system play and a demand for details of how to play one.

      Obiously I have mistakingly estimated the overall intelligence level in this thread.

      That statement was made in reference to the constant whining on this board about not "sharing the details" of a winning system.

      If my original post about "TBL" was your idea of a Holy Grail, you've got bigger problems than playing baccarat.

      Learn how to read a message and an entire thread before making unsubstantiated accusations.

      Evidently the word "sarcasm" in not in some of your vocabularies.

      And giving the "full details" of a baccarat system play wasn't enough.  (Which I did with that spectacular TBL Grail!)

      And for the record, NOBODY has ever stated just what constitutes the "details" of any system play.

      People complain and whine all over the internet and never even know just what they're looking for!

      Tonight is a casino night for me as I have to drop the wife off at the airport and I can hit the tables on the way back.  Should anyone like a detailed explanation of my play, I'll have my scorecard available.

      If it's a losing card, I'll post it up here for free.

      If it's a winning card, you can PM me and I'll sell it to you for $2500 and will give you a detailed, play by play of the card and fully explain how I flipped the coins to make my wagers.    (Yes, that's sarcasm). 

      AD

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    Re: [COUNCIL] What constitutes "hinting" by a member?
    « Reply #19 on: December 19, 2014, 06:39:19 pm »
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  • To the best of my knowledge, ADulay has been heavily involved with a known gambling systems scammer for years.  Feel free to correct me.

    (Insert heavy sigh here). . . .
        Well, at least the writing style is consistent.

        "Heavily involved"?  If logging in daily and doing the mundane and routine chores of an administrator is "heavily involved" to you, then the answer is yes.  I don't believe I've ever even mentioned the site.  That's for others to do.  There is a reason I do these things and it is because I know how to make it work.    System sales are completely out of my realm of influence.

    More importantly, please explain his experience in terms of success, and the success itself?  I take it that you meant he's won something.  Or, was that more sarcasm?

    Here we go again.   We're still attemping to define what "success" is and you want hard proof.   Just let me know what you want and I'll do my best to produce it.   Personally, even I can't answer the "success" question as I still have doubts every time I lay down my own money.   However, if you have a definitive method of explaining success, let me know.

    So, Mr. BlueHood, new member.  Please define a successful baccarat player and a losing baccarat player.  You appear to be well versed in this entire operation which should amaze most of us because you obviously just got here!  (Yes, that's sarcasm).

    AD (and people still question why I rarely post these days)



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    Re: [COUNCIL] What constitutes "hinting" by a member?
    « Reply #20 on: December 22, 2014, 10:19:30 pm »
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  • I personally don’t mind hinters; it’s the braggers that get under my skin. You know, the ones who brag about how good they are at their jobs, how much money they make, how well received they are in the high roller rooms, how they know better than everyone else on virtually any subject you care to mention, how they are a beacon of light and knowledge beyond the average man’s scope, etc.

    There are people who struggle to feed their families a decent meal or make their rent every other week; there are people not afforded the privilege of a decent education or not lucky enough to fall into a fruitful job or business, and there are people who simply have no money, or lost all their money gambling.

    Forget about hinting, it’s for all those people that I would like to see bragging outlawed on the forum.

    Instead of deleting any and all posts that are seen as argumentative or disruptive toward bragging, and moderating those members who get their backs up, how about deleting the bragging posts, with some warning attached that among other things, it is antisocial and offensive to others.

       

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    Re: [COUNCIL] What constitutes "hinting" by a member?
    « Reply #21 on: December 23, 2014, 12:31:23 am »
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  • "Forget about hinting, it’s for all those people that I would like to see bragging outlawed on the forum."

    Good point. 

    So bragging without believable substantiation of results is a no-no and should be outlawed on the forum

    But what about bragging where the bragger goes on to provide irrefutable proof of his/her claims?  Different ball game?

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    Re: [COUNCIL] What constitutes "hinting" by a member?
    « Reply #22 on: December 23, 2014, 02:44:17 am »
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  • Rolex-Watch/John and his big wads of cash and morphine/cocaine purchased from his raking in $20K a month in baccarat with 40 consecutive winning sessions playing 28 hours a day. 28 hours a day? What? Well it is the Rolex-Watch Always Draw down Never Never Land. LOL. Over there the rules of reality don't apply. When you constantly stab yourself with negative progression bets you don't bleed. Money just flows right out from those open wounds!

    Oh I remember those Monopoly funny money pics that he posted so fondly on BL. I wonder why he didn't also post his blow up doll collection as well.