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Albalaha's situation
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:19:00 pm »
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  • Hello, this thread is opened for both sides to publish comments on the current issue with member Albalaha, as well as allowing the general public to submit opinions so a registry remains in our community council; this also enables other fellows to see we allow members to exercise their right to reply and verify we aren't rule tyrants nor do we lack the ability to make concessions when required.

    I politely ask member Albalaha to take this opportunity to offer his full side and point of view without leaving "anything inside" for the forum to see and evaluate. ("empty it up")

    Likewise members from our staff, including myself, will also offer our full official side for the public to ponder too.

    Let's keep it fair, balanced and civil. We are all grown-up and conscious beings.
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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #1 on: December 22, 2014, 05:26:05 pm »
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  • Thanks Victor for allowing me to speak, at least once.
                                      It all started with a topic of mine: https://betselection.cc/gambling-philosophy/play-this-and-play-that-but-why/msg34451/#msg34451
               in this topic I tried to raise a fundamental question regarding so called "systems" or any well defined approach of casino gaming. Anybody can say play this or that or upon happening of this or that or with this progression or flat bet but none prefers to write, "why", "when" and "how" it should do better that if we bet 1 unit constantly on an EC bet. In a debate, you have every right to put your views and members came forward to opine.
                    Learned global moderator Bayes who has also been moderator of Maths section came forward and said that a mathematical way of beating the game is not possible. I pointed him to a topic of mine, in Ophis Mst section where with a well defined method Ophis' bot beaten more than 10 million spins. It is pertinent to mention here that those 10 million spins are not creation of mine or Ophis but all were taken from public forums and a few were posted by Bayes himself. In course of beating over 10 million spins we won more than a few hundred thousands chips too. Those who haven't witnessed this may see: https://betselection.cc/ophis'-mst/holy-grail-randomness-can-be-beaten-even-in-the-longest-run/
                 Now Bayes started to say that it is merely a co-incidence that I could beat 10 millions spins and winning of a few hundred thousands chips were also coincidence. I begged to differ and said that if you are not capable of doing something do not say, it is not possible. It is again pertinent to mention that I openly offered Victor to have a look at the bot, if there is any doubt over use of reverse engineering or fabricated graphs. It can be witnessed here: https://betselection.cc/ophis'-mst/holy-grail-randomness-can-be-beaten-even-in-the-longest-run/msg12545/#msg12545
                Victor did not come forward and Ophis went out of all forums after this feat. He created this unique dream machine and earned great from this too. I had the bot (I still have) but it was a protected bot and I and Ophis later agreed that no third person should ever get this.
    As per Bayes, all the wins were merely coincidence and in my humble opinion such coincidence is lesser obvious than going to walk your dog and reach Jupiter. It seems Bayes hasn't studied probability and statistics by heart. I asked him if it was a coincidence, can you point me another. I shown him my 32 NDB wins where I need to mostly bet on slots only wagering 30 to 120 times ofthe bankroll. My question was what is the probability of doing 32 such feats by a single man? 1 in a billion or more? I was banned by entire "Rival" software casinos 3-4 years back for winning in many of its casinos. After that I won with RTG, Top game, Playtech, Nuworks, Betonsoft, Microgaming, VIG and many more types of casinos. I posted most of them in rouletteforum.cc and betselection.cc apart from a few in some other forums.Bayes said, unless he see and approve my method, no one should believe my methods so I should give my method to him. He proposed to code that and test which i politely refused because I already have a full fledge bot coded by the best programmer that I saw on Victor's forums, Ophis. If Bayes feels that his credentials are more than that of mine and Ophis taken together, I do not agree.
                                        Upon this, he deleted a few posts of mine where I objected to his behaviour and muted me abruptly. I objected to this to Esoito, Bayes and Victor and Victor gladly unmuted me.
             Since Bayes muted me upon the accusation of "hinting", Victor started a fair debate to define "hinting", https://betselection.cc/community-council/(council)-what-constitutes-'hinting'-by-a-member/
    I put my points with others. If "hinting" means pointing to a Sales pitch, I never did that. Even my own blog clearly mentions that I have nothing to sell. Bayes objected toward my email. It was something like a bad joke. He expects me to change my email as it looks like "hinting" to him too. I objected this since both my signature and email was approved by Victor himself. Bayes started to attack me personally and other global moderators sadly joined his bandwagon without being fair at me. A few posts of mine were cleverly deleted to support them. It is pertinent to mention that Bayes himself claims to have a grail but as an honest member and further as moderator of Maths section and a Global Moderator, he has no responsibility to put that forward. Only poor Albalaha should put his winning idea before him otherwise he will be muted.
                             I do not obey such "commands" as it looks unfair to me. I demand Bayes and all listed by him to put their grails before I do, afteral "Charity begins at home".
                    I can prove that all casino gambling are mathematically beatable, not in a few spins or with a few chips but surely in long run but why should I put this exclusive info to such undeserving community where a Global Moderator himself boasts of a grail without ever mentioning any playable idea? In my opinion, whatever he writes on the blog are merely copy-paste from maths books and one can get all those info from a $5 maths book. Further, his ideas are useless in applied gambling since he himself has no clue of what to do.
               
                     
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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #2 on: December 22, 2014, 06:34:24 pm »
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  • Life is too short for all this nonsense. Albalaha, if you can do what you claim, find a way to use it in the casinos and make your fortune. Why even waste your time here arguing/discussing any of this stuff. In fact, you wouldn't even need to play it.

    you say....

    '' I can prove that all casino gambling are mathematically beatable.''

    The book would be a best seller and put guys like Thorpe and Shannon in the shade.

    It's poor Victor I feel sorry for.  There's Steve making millions from his computers and you have defeated the mathematics of roulette, and yet, for some strange reason, Victor is busting his chops trying to get a software site of the ground charging a $6.99 subscription.  Can you guys with the H.G. not help him out?

    The world really is not a fair place if you ask me.

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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #3 on: December 22, 2014, 09:24:18 pm »
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  • Hopefully Albalaha and forum moderators can make it to reach an agreement. As for me I agree with the Caviarkid when he says that life is short for all of this. And for the record I do not have much amount of sorry for Victor or call it an injustice for him to charge almost nothing for his efforts because it is clearly by choice.

    Just as I believe that people can charge whatever they want or give away their work if they feel like it. It is the same policy that I have with money earned. You better not tell others how they should spend their own money.

    Likewise if I knew how to do the programming for the things that Victor can do neither would I bother to maintain a forum for systems . not even to make a forum for casino software charging less than $ 5 or $ 6 USD.

    What I would do is a community featuring serious programs for businesses and users who pay handsomely. There must be a market for people who require individualized advanced applications and are willing to pay $ 500 USD or more for their custom programs which in the business field must be a bargain.

    Should I had the ability to perform serious programming I would seek what their personal needs are and would offer solutions to be liberally paid for the effort. without wasting time on these games that everyone knows they do not work, nor try to collect some coins one by one.
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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #4 on: December 22, 2014, 10:09:20 pm »
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  • I think the crux of the matter with Albalaha is that there is reasonable suspicion that his long winded and repeated boasts of conclusively beating roulette are posted for the purpose of earning money from other gambler’s away from this forum.

    Even if it is not his main reason, there will always remain the possibility of some business traffic, hence his off forum advertising of site & email, I believe.

    Unfortunately for Albalaha, he does have a history of “system selling” which is a contentious issue among gambling forum communities. Perhaps the approval of displaying internet sites & email addresses should be given more thought, and to be blunt, the suspicion attached could actually bleed accross to ask, why is he allowed to advertise here? Perhaps there are top secret kick backs for the forum admin? Who knows?

    Maybe there should be some scale of risk or suspicion attached to each member, and those that fall into high risk category, such as known system sellers, should be excluded from the privilege of displaying addresses. This would mean any interested buyers might need to register on the forum then initially communicate through PM within the forum setting.

    The above is my unbiased opinion and is not meant to be a personal attack on anyone.


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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #5 on: December 23, 2014, 03:19:23 am »
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  • To all the "respected member",
    No one can disagree, that
    Albalaha is a great personality who have contribute greatly to this forum.

    1]He is right when he point out that all system creator must ask "why", "when" and "how", but instead of asking themselves those questions, they choose to be a joker! ...by accusing Albalaha as...

    2]Albalaha always criticize others of their unplayable LOSING method and strategy, because they can't withstand the assault of VARIANCE&VIRTUAL LIMIT.
    But how many person takes the trouble to ask, "WHAT IS VARIANCE&VIRTUAL LIMIT?

    No, never, they get MAD!

    If you can't stand his style of argument, then don't argue! But don't resort to personal attack!...or become a JOKER.

    3]Bayes must STOP his "SUPERIOR-CONCIOUSNESS", and stop regarding others as "inferior" in his writing...
    BAYES,
     PLEASE don't write, "u have the nerve to..!", or "got it?".

    And the moderators must not gang up, and send a member to "CANNOT POST", just because they can't WIN argument with a member.
    [Do I risked being moderated for writing this?]

    For many time, Albalaha have pointed out the FLAW of almost everyone methods, because they can withstand the combination of assault of RTM,Virtual Limit, Variance, Bankroll.

    I, had, for many time, being lambasted, criticize, castigate, chastise, censure, condemn,and even scold by Albalaha, for my posting here, and his forum, DO I RESORT TO PERSONAL ATTACK,AND COME A JOKER?

    Without the humbleness to accept others argument and criticism, this forum will be BLAND!

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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #6 on: December 23, 2014, 03:38:09 am »
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  • Personally, I have no problem with Albalaha and have talked with him many times on here and as well as off of the board.  He makes sense at times and other times---I do not believe in what he claims/says.  He has never approached me personally to sell anything and I highly doubt I would buy anything on here or any other site for a 'system' or similar. 

    I have no problem with him and believe he should be allowed to stay and freely chat on the board.  If you don't like what he says, move on.

    There are a handful of others that are obnoxious, condescending and get up in your face with their bullcrap including personal attacks and demeaning a poster. Those are the ones that should go.
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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #7 on: December 23, 2014, 03:54:28 am »
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    Unfortunately for Albalaha, he does have a history of “system selling”
              There are administrators having history of going to jail for scamming and spamming masses. His ads are being displayed here regularly. Why do you move around these forums? Our learned global moderator Bayes has been an ex-commander(moderator) of such scammer, pampering his known scams. What kind of morality he has to ask others? Why his account has not been deleted from rf.cc yet while he deleted that of his rapidly from this forum while Stef opened his forum?
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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #8 on: December 23, 2014, 04:09:21 am »
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  • I have seen lots of double standards from members and a few moderators too, here. I am in no mood to listen the same tunes again and again. I honestly try to educate members here. I even provided my highly successful sports pick regularly but people started to rant and I had to stop that : https://betselection.cc/sports-betting-forum/do-u-want-high-probability-sports-picks/
                    It is the time when I openly need to know whether people like me here or not. Forget my history or my geographical location. I want a 15 days voting over this and I would quit even if I get 40% votes against me.
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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #9 on: December 23, 2014, 04:51:42 am »
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  • Why not just stay and contribute with your knowledgable discussions, but forfeit your website & email links from the forum?

    If people want to contact or email you they can find your address within your profile. Why have it displayed in everyone’s face?


    You are a known system seller, which understandably attracts a bit of condemnation. You should be freely willing to remove your links as a gesture of good faith.


    So should others with similar reputations.

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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #10 on: December 23, 2014, 04:54:54 am »
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  •           There are administrators having history of going to jail for scamming and spamming masses. His ads are being displayed here regularly. Why do you move around these forums? Our learned global moderator Bayes has been an ex-commander(moderator) of such scammer, pampering his known scams.

    Hey, we all know Steve is a bit of a wanker, and Bayes will be the first one to agree!

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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #11 on: December 23, 2014, 05:04:03 am »
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    Why not just stay and contribute with your knowledgable discussions, but forfeit your website & email links from the forum?

    Ask Victor to remove all ads from a known scammer from this place and ask your global admins to stop putting weblinks of different systems for Sale, daily here, on one pretext or other. Disable all emails being shown and weblinks too. I do not want any exceptional privilege here. I just want peace. There should be equality and transparency.
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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #12 on: December 23, 2014, 05:57:59 am »
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  • OK,
    I think we get the picture...

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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #13 on: December 23, 2014, 06:17:11 am »
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  •  I VOTE for Albalaha to STAY !

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    Re: Albalaha's situation
    « Reply #14 on: December 23, 2014, 06:18:02 am »
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  • If I buy a system from Albalaha or anybody else, once I have the system, what is stopping me passing it around to a few others, who in turn pass it around to a few more.  It ends up fairly quickly in the hands of say 50 people, yet Albalaha only got paid the once.

    Just another reason why those with self proclaimed "HG's", should really spend less time talking about it and more time milking their cash cow if they truly believe it exists. 

    I can't comment on what Bayes does, because I don't know what it is he does, "you don't know what you don't know",, but he does know what he is taking about, I will afford him that.
    Math is great like that, once it's been proven that no method exists to do what you claim, it's not necessary to go through the details of your system to prove that it doesn't work. You claim that it does something which can be proven impossible, therefore, your claim is false. The details don't matter.