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[Bayes]

I use montanos style [smiley]aes/money.png[/smiley]

linux jar file!!!- > give link PM )

Thanks for the jar file, but so far it's not working on Linux (I did chmod u+x to set the executable bit).


I've just run a sample of 100 actuals. Made 14 units but the biggest bet was 96 units (3 chips of 32 units each)! 


To be honest, I thought this was going to be something better than a martingale. I was using the montanos style which is the default. If that's conservative I shudder to think what the aggressive option does to your bankroll. 


Anyway, I'll do some more testing tomorrow.


@ Sam,


No, I can't run it through RX. But there is an autorun feature on the software.

[BrenoGarcia]

Line Triad is not a Holy Grail, but it is the most efficient system I've ever seen. I think this system combines perfect with D'Lambert.

[BrenoGarcia]

Thanks for the jar file, but so far it's not working on Linux (I did chmod u+x to set the executable bit).


I've just run a sample of 100 actuals. Made 14 units but the biggest bet was 96 units (3 chips of 32 units each)! 


To be honest, I thought this was going to be something better than a martingale. I was using the montanos style which is the default. If that's conservative I shudder to think what the aggressive option does to your bankroll. 


Anyway, I'll do some more testing tomorrow.


@ Sam,


No, I can't run it through RX. But there is an autorun feature on the software.

Bayes, the file dgt(lt3_ENG) has a version D'Lambert...I believe it is the method more conservative..

[BrenoGarcia]

Thanks for the jar file, but so far it's not working on Linux (I did chmod u+x to set the executable bit).


I've just run a sample of 100 actuals. Made 14 units but the biggest bet was 96 units (3 chips of 32 units each)! 


To be honest, I thought this was going to be something better than a martingale. I was using the montanos style which is the default. If that's conservative I shudder to think what the aggressive option does to your bankroll. 


Anyway, I'll do some more testing tomorrow.


@ Sam,


No, I can't run it through RX. But there is an autorun feature on the software.

Good game plan for LT2...


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This link(http://www.mediafire.com/?v1bdoxqbrb4iqaf) contains a pdf with the test results of 10 casinos playtech. Great work of the author (jenoe26)

[Bayes]

Update

Tested the system over 401 spins, but because you only make a bet once every 7 spins after the first 28 spins, I only actually placed 69 bets. The starting bankroll was 1000 units. Final bankroll was 1120 giving a profit of 120 units.


However, all the staking plans are far too aggressive for my liking, even the most conservative option had me staking 96 units more than once. More importantly, I tested the betselection using my trusty zmeter and the final score was -0.44, which doesn't give any evidence at all that there is any merit in it. I'll do some more testing later today.

[Chrisbis]

Thank you for the update Bayes. [smiley]aes/thinking.png[/smiley]

[Sputnik]

Well i don't need test results ...
I just get angry when people act as we are stupid ...

First he is selling a method, you don't sell winning methods - how do i know you might ask - well i have winning methods and they don't see daylight.
So just the attempt selling is not only suspicious, it is ridiculous in my book.

Then add testimonials that people quit work and find roulette as main income just make me laugh loud.
Add to that is goes for 75 and its just one more point making it unrealistic.

It is obvious that any one can create a kitchen system and make a web site selling it for 75 ...
Just come up with a good name for the kitchen system and make some short good looking graphs ...

Again ,,, why waste time testing ,,, the site glow scam long way ,,, just waste of time and energy ...

[Bayes]

Sputnik,


Although I pretty much agree with everything you've said, I still think we need to give these guys a chance. At least Montanosz01 has agreed to let me have a trial, and you have to give him some credit for that.


Knowing that it's basically a doubling-up "strategy" could be useful to some members who were actually thinking of buying the system, and maybe that hasn't put them off (although it should have).


Also, I believe you have to give sellers the benefit of the doubt and not just assume that (a) no-one would ever sell a winning system and (b) that they know they're scamming people (they might actually believe that they have a winning system).


Also, you say that you have a winning method, so you must believe that winning methods are POSSIBLE (and I agree), in which case, why would it be so ridiculous to quit work and rely on it to make a living?


Anyway, the MM of this system has killed it for me, but I'm still mildly curious as to whether the bet selection has any merit (doesn't seem that way so far).


IMO, we shouldn't automatically tar ALL system sellers with the same brush, but rather give them the opportunity to back up their claims (or let the members do it). If they're not prepared to do that, that in itself speaks volumes. I think this is a more productive strategy than simply dismissing them all as scammers, and yet at the same time hoping, wishing, or believing that winning methods are possible, which smacks of inconsistency to me.

[Montanosz01]

alternative dozen progression

[esoito]

"IMO, we shouldn't automatically tar ALL system sellers with the same brush, but rather give them the opportunity to back up their claims (or let the members do it).
If they're not prepared to do that, that in itself speaks volumes.
I think this is a more productive strategy than simply dismissing them all as scammers, and yet at the same time hoping, wishing, or believing that winning methods are possible, which smacks of inconsistency to me."

Well put, Bayes.  That about sums it up.

Hopefully a few more 'system sellers' will come forward and offer their product for independent testing.

[Bayes]

update and conclusion

This time I switched to an alternative progression ("Tornado style"). This has you betting on only 3 double streets (instead of 4 as in the previous session), so it amounts to an EC bet. I placed another 31 bets, and increased the bankroll from 1120 to 1217 units.
I was intending to test more, but to be honest, I've seen enough. The MM is madness. Several times I was staking over 30 units on each double street, and the largest stake (remember, I only placed 31 bets) was 104 units per DS!
The final z-score for the bet selection was -0.99, so it seems you might as well save yourself some time and bet randomly every spin, instead of only betting once every 7 spins. In conclusion, although I made a profit in the trial, I can't recommend it. The software is fine, but what's the point of having fancy graphics and gizmos if the system is cr*p?

VERDICT: [smiley]aes/thumb_down.png[/smiley]

[D1]

''The software is fine, but what's the point of having fancy graphics and gizmos if the system is cr*p?''

that's what I like to hear

good old fashioned plain english terms

D1.

[Chrisbis]

if the system is cr*p?

....that sold it for me.........[smiley]aes/dont_know.png[/smiley]

[Montanosz01]

New dgt file [smiley]aes/wink.png[/smiley]

[marivo]

Thank you!