After reading this awsome bac thread i decides to see what happens if we apply it to roulette Even chances.
Will play against 3 states repeating.
Instead of observing the pure results Red Black High Low etc, i observe and apply it to the string that is formed comparing present 10 results against previous 10.
It is easier to observe than to explain.
I wonder what fluctuation i have if i treat 3 strings of bets at same time.
I ignore the zero.
Guess i just got lucky, i will keep testing this.
Best Regards
i believe i now understand that is beneficial to wait for the 3rd state to happen after restarting.
hi mate can you share the excel file? so I can test also by myself ?
Thanks to the OP(albertojonas) for the post and others opinions too. This is an interesting hypothesis. I will have to think on it and will respond more later.
Continued Success To All,
more hand testing.
Continuing to explore this idea that 3 states will not show up in succession: 123 or 132 or 213 or 312.
Possibilities are (27 permutations):
111 ww
112 wl
113 wl
121 lw
122 lw
123 LLL
131 lw
132 LLL
133 lw
211 lw
212 lw
213 LLL
221 wl
222 ww
223 ww
231 wl
232 ww
233 ww
311 lw
312 LLL
313 llw
321 wl
322 ww
323 ww
331 wl
332 ww
333 ww
9/27 ends up in WW situation
6/27 end up in WL situation
so 15/27 end up starting with a Win
7/27 en up in LW situation, break even.
There is the 313 exception resulting in a LLW, all the other 4 end up in three Losses.
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I wonder about what kind of progression would be more suitable to this expectations.
lwwlwwlwwwwwlwwlwwlwwwwwwlwll Odd/Even
So this is a result (a very good one) where it generates this entire string before all 3 states show up.
Having come into this discussion a bit late can you point to the explanation of the "3-States Bias" so I can bring myself up to speed on this?
Always interested in working with things that appear interesting.
AD
representing 3 possible streams of play
ADulay,
there are 3 things that can happen if you observe a string of results:
a single event - Black Red Red (the black is a single event aka one single)
a double event - Black Red Red Black ( Red Red is a double event aka a series of 2)
a triple event or bigger - Black Red Red Red Red Black (Red Red Red Red is a triple event or bigger aka series of 3 or superior)
The assumption is that variation will be lower so it allows to play both sides with the appropriate progression and money management.
Any ideas on progression for this?
Test 100 spins Random.org (no zero)
O/E
w---w---lw---w---lw---w---w---lw---w---w---llw
S/B
w---llw---w---lw---lw---w---llw
R/B
w---lll---w---llw---w---w---lll---w---lw
So this are like mini games inside the main game. I see one state and play until a win or until 3 Losses.
If i win i wait for the third state to show up and consider it the first of the new game.
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One Other way is to wait for the 3rd state to show up ant then consider the next new one as the first for the new game
Same spins, different results
w---w---llw---llw---w---w---w---w---w---lw
w---lw---llw---w---w---w---w
w---w---w---llw---w---w---lw
I hope the example is clear
Random Integer Generator
Here are the numbers, generated with randomization from 2024-09-23
32
9
25
21
25
17
14
34
24
30
26
4
7
29
5
2
26
21
35
18
22
1
28
5
31
10
35
13
4
34
23
28
21
17
32
28
21
29
31
21
28
15
15
1
33
6
13
10
31
35
1
18
27
24
23
29
2
3
4
25
25
12
18
27
23
9
11
11
34
1
4
25
25
16
30
8
6
23
27
1
3
10
33
29
3
17
18
35
21
21
16
31
15
1
24
1
5
3
34
29
Timestamp: 2024-09-23 22:14:47 UTC
O/E
llw---w---lw---w---w---llw
B/S
w---w---w---w---llw---w---w---w---lw
R/B
lll---w---lw---llw---w---lll---w---w---w
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We can also watch strings of events
1 for single
2 for double
3 for series of 3 or larger
R/B String
312 - 112111211111113 - 2111111213 - 133112 - 1132- 213 - 2331 - 11132 - 1131
LLL LLL
Red String
321 - 1111112111113 - 1132 - 3311313
Black String
112121113 - 11123 - 312 - 12123 - 1121
LLL
@Sputnik
While always watching this Singles Vs Larger Series (thank you)
Testing...
01-09-2014
O/E String
33312 - 1312 - 1211213 - 111333111133111112 - 312 - 1312 - 112113 - 11
Odd String
3111112 - 3133113112 - 1111211
Even String
3323221 - 111311311132 - 321 - 131
L/H String
1312 - 1113112 - 213 - 1123 - 113112 - 11223 - 33231 - 3112 - 113132 - 2123 - 1
Low String
321 - 312 - 313112 - 123 - 211211213
High String
11111211213 - 1123 - 33311332 - 21
R/B String
13113312 - 21213 - 313312 - 1112113 - 231 - 1213 - 123 - 12123 - 11
Red String
3132 - 113311113311132 - 21
Black String
11312 - 231 - 321 - 212123 - 2113 - 1
************
bias 43
non-bias 4
testing today's randomization
25/09
Strings
O/E String
321 121223 231 22331 213 31131131112 11213 1213 212213 3
Odd String
21122123 231 311112 3231 23
Even String
312 233231 1311312 11112213
L/H String
211121113 123 122123 312 21213 2113 31112 31112 111111332 313112
Low String
1111132 1312 231 311312 1113331
High String
21213 21223 11213 12111113 2112
R/B String
31112 1211211211223 331312 2123 1132 311131312 321 112123
Red String
111121123 3321 312 111131113
Black String
312 2112123 112213 31332 2122
Non Bias = 6
Bias = 49
more testing
Strings
O/E String
11133111311332 21111113 11312 133311112 111112122223 111313
wwllwwwwlwwwlwlwll-lwwwwwwll-wlwll-llwlwlwwwwwll-wwwwlwlwlwlwlwll-wwlwlw
Odd String
1311132 11131113112 112223 133
lwwwlwll-wwlwwwlwwwll-wllwlwll-llw
Even String
11313132 111132 331111112 2111
wlwlwwlwll-wwwlll-wlwwwwwll-lww
L/H String
3112 2113 1223 312 22213 2112213 321223 2113 2111123 132
lwll-lwll-llwll-lll-wwlll-lwlwlwwll-wllwlwll-lwll-lwwwlwll-lll
Low String
312 1123 2212123 22313112 12
lll-wlll-wllwwlwll-wwllwwwll-
High String
1213 2312 2312 1312 212113 3
lwll-wlll-wlll-lwll-llwwwll-
R/B String
1131332 312 231133111311311312 1111132 32112223 11
wlwlwlwll-lll-lwlwlwlwwwwlwwwlwwwlwwll-wwwwlll-wlwlwlwlwll
Red String
1332 1213 1113111112 2123 1
llwll-lwwll-wwlwwwwwll-llwll-
Black String
11332 313131132 113312 21
wllwlwll-llwwlwwwlwll-wllwwll-
Thx albertojonas for the intel/thx to others comments as well.
I like the idea of watching three streams of info simultaneously. I think most of us will agree a shoe is always presenting at least one(>=1) bias.
Continued Success To All,
Quotemore hand testing.
Continuing to explore this idea that 3 states will not show up in succession: 123 or 132 or 213 or 312.
Possibilities are (27 permutations):
111 ww
112 wl
113 wl
121 lw
122 lw
123 LLL
131 lw
132 LLL
133 lw
211 lw
212 lw
213 LLL
221 wl
222 ww
223 ww
231 wl
232 ww
233 ww
311 lw
312 LLL
313 llw
321 wl
322 ww
323 ww
331 wl
332 ww
333 ww
I AM SORRY!!
CORRECTION
111 W
112 W
113 W
121 LW
122 LLW
123 LLL
131 LW
132 LLL
133 LLW
211 LW
212 LLW
213 LLL
221 W
222 W
223 W
231 W
232 W
233 W
311 LW
312 LLL
313 LLW
321 W
322 W
323 W
331 W
332 W
333 W
Quote9/27 ends up in WW situation
6/27 end up in WL situation
so 15/27 end up starting with a Win
7/27 en up in LW situation, break even.
There is the 313 exception resulting in a LLW, all the other 4 end up in three Losses.
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I wonder about what kind of progression would be more suitable to this expectations.
SO THIS NEEDS CORRECTION TOO. I AM SO SORRY.
15/27 result in direct Win
4/27 result in LW situation
4/27 end up in LLW situation
4/27 result in LLL
Would there be any advantage play only when first event is a series, being a double, or being a series of 3 or larger???
I believe not. Most certainly because there are as many singles as series.
What kind of progression would fit this bet selection?
To take advantage of direct wins and LW
and also do not get in the hole with llw or lll
...
>:D
For now, i came up with this Modified D'Allembert taught to me by GLC
llw raise 1 unit
lll raise 4 units
* lw counts as a win as you win 1 unit no matter what step of the progression
1 win lower 1 unit
2 consecutive wins raise 1 unit
3 consecutive wins lower 1 unit
4 consecutive wins raise 1 unit
etc...
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Tomorrow if i have the time i will post an example.
Can Someone kindly give me two or three bac shoes?
Cheers
Here it is. One model of playing to achieve 10 units.
From same 100 spin set Timestamp: 2024-10-02 23:38:10 UTC RANDOM.ORG
2nd playing model is to ride each string until a W or LLL, then wait for the 3 states to show up before restarting.
One can play both sides or with an alter-ego maybe try only one side of the distribution isolated.
Player 1
O/E String
21112111113 11132 2123 2113 11211113 1213 1123 312 1312 111111213 11
LWWLWWWWWWLL WWLLL LLWLL LWLL WLWWWWLL LWLL WLLL LLL LWLL WWWWWLWLL W
WL: LW W LLW LW W LW W LLL LW W W
BET: 1212343434545678989
NET: -1 2 1 -2 -3 4 -3 4 3 -4 5 4 -5 -6 -7 -8 9 8 9
BANK: -1 1 2 0 -3 1 -2 2 5 1 6 10 5 -1 -8 -16 -7 1 10 = +10
Player 2
Odd String
1111111213 1311132 3131111112 31
W LW LLW W
Player 3
Even String
212113 132 221121111123 2321 1111
LLW LLL W W W
Playing Model #3
Reduce this theory at minimum window of events: 3. So we play groups of three figures in succession. Notice that the 27 Patterns do NOT have the same probability of happening, and that is the loophole that allows profit and reduced variance.
Good Luck Everyone :rose:
QuoteInstead of observing the pure results Red Black High Low etc, i observe and apply it to the string that is formed comparing present 10 results against previous 10.
There is no advantage doing this, except it creates 3 more strings of play per even chance.
this is the sputnik's post that made me think about this application:
QuoteAssume you not betting and just want to see the true bias of shoe.
Then singles are by them self as outcomes.
Series of two are by them self as outcomes.
And series of three and higher are treated as the same outcome.
Then you get the principal of 1/3
Now assume you would split each sequence into blocks of two events.
For example you see B P B PPPP BBBBB P B PPP then this is a sequence with two events/outcomes - singles and series of three and higher.
Now look at this sequence BB PP B P BB P B P B P B is a sequence with singles and series of two.
The third sequence is series of two and series of three and higher BB PPP BB PPPPPP BB PP BB PPPPPP BBB PP.
Now if a sequence not include two events/outcomes for three times in a row - a true small bias sequence you will have a triplet - no present bias.
Triplet look like this.
One single and serie of two and one serie of three or higher.
The triplets can come in any combination, one of each.
This means you can compare sequence with two otucomes hitting three times or more creating a true bias or you get a triplet.
Cheers