0.01543209876.  Fascinating result! It´s the result of 5/6 X 4/6 X 3/6 X 2/6 X 1/6.  The probability that DS 1-6, 7-12, 13-18, 19-24, 25-30 and 31-36 all come in six spins (zero is ignored).
In most cases it takes more than ten spins for all six groups to come. So in the beginning of the session I simply bet (flat bet) the latest group.
In many cases I´ll get TWO hits in this way.  As a matter of fact  I hope to get EXACTLY TWO hits, before all  six have come. Right after the two hits I "switch over" and only bet the groups that have not come.  I then leave a group after a hit there.
The session ends if all six groups turn up. It also ends if the latest group comes again (after the initial two hits). As any experienced gambler knows, one DS may skive for a long time.
My first 25 sessions (from the 25 first days of 2010, table 3, Spielbank Wiesbaden) resulted in +40 units.
                                                                                                                                              Good luck!
                                                                                                                                                 Dane

 
I don't understand how you play. But i understand that a dice has 98,5% hitting at least one repeat during one cycle of 6 throws/trails.
1.5% that is will show each side once during one cycle of 6 throws.

I also know that 98,5% of all sequential windows have imbalance where at least one side sleep for 789 10 11 12 up to 30 times.
So feel free to elaborate more about how you play.

Cheers

Quote from: Sputnik on June 30, 2013, 12:33:49 PM

I don't understand how you play. But i understand that a dice has 98,5% hitting at least one repeat during one cycle of 6 throws/trails.
1.5% that is will show each side once during one cycle of 6 throws.

I also know that 98,5% of all sequential windows have imbalance where at least one side sleep for 789 10 11 12 up to 30 times.
So feel free to elaborate more about how you play.

Cheers

Some old professor or math in a television show once said that at least one side of a dice can sleep 100 times!  Anyway:
                                                          1 =  1-6
                                                          2 =  7-12
                                                          3 = 13-18
                                                          4 = 19-24
                                                          5 = 25-30
                                                          6 = 31-36.
05.02.2010, table 3

35  bet 6.
27   -   5.
26   -   5.  (notice:  FIRST HIT)
11   -   2.
20   -   4.
34   -   6.
21   -   4.
25   -   5.
20   -   4.
20............NOTICE: SECOND HIT! I expect exactly TWO hits in this way, before all six groups come. In other words:
               It is time to bet the remaining (missing, sleeping or skiving) groups.
         BET DS 1 AND 3.
1    BET DS 3.
3 END OF SESSION! The latest group repeated. I hope it´s all clear now.

Hi Dane


So it's basically wait for one DS to hit 3 times in total, then
bet remaining unhit DS/s?


Cheers

Hi Dane

Thanks for the clarification. It may take quite a while before being able to make a bet......??


Cheers

R

Oh no! I start betting right after the first spin (area 1-36). The first spin (from the 5th of January 2010): 35.
I bet DS 6. The next spin: 27. I bet BS 5 and win, when 26 comes.
After two hits I stop betting the latest group and start betting the unhit group(s). I leave them as they come.
But, as I tried to explain, I end the session if the latest group repeats (that would have been the 3RD hit had I not left betting the latest group).
In some sessions all six groups come (that also ends the session).
I hope that it is clear now.    Cheers
                                          Dane

It reminds me of;


L-ines
E-liminated
T-o
W-in


or LET WIN method from other forum...very similar.Will look into this one as it is very interesting.

 
Hi Dane

Thanks for replying ; I have tested it on live wheel with very good results so far.
However, I have a couple of questions in relation to the above example: When
the number 26 came, do u still keep on betting on DS 5.....?

In the above example, after 2 hits you bet on DS 1 and DS 3; However, for how about many
spins will u bet on them.....? Would you give up after say 3 or 6 LLLLLL's if they suddenly become
sleepers......? Would you use normal DS progression......?  thanks.

Cheers

R

Quote from: Rouletta on June 30, 2013, 08:31:03 PM

Hi Dane

Thanks for replying ; I have tested it on live wheel with very good results so far.
However, I have a couple of questions in relation to the above example: When
the number 26 came, do u still keep on betting on DS 5…..?

In the above example, after 2 hits you bet on DS 1 and DS 3; However, for how about many
spins will u bet on them…..? Would you give up after say 3 or 6 LLLLLL's if they suddenly become
sleepers......? Would you use normal DS progression......?  thanks.

Cheers

R

Hi R
In the beginning I simply bet on the latest group. After TWO hits I bet only the skiving groups.
And I stop betting a skiving group as soon as it comes.
I do not know what you mean by "normal DS progression". But here I do not use any progression at all.
I prefer "masse égale" or flat betting.
                                                                    Cheers
                                                                     Dane

Hi Dane
Thanks for replying; Another clarification if the two hits is in the same double
street; Do u still count it as two hits...., or it has to be in two different DS...?

During testing on live wheel I have frequently seen the two hits come one after the
other or three hits come very quickly; Would you quit as you have
achieved the three hit; and start a new game afterwards.....; or would
you continue.... To try to get more hits.....?  For ex:

5 Bet DS 1
5 Win – rebet DS 1
34 Loss – Bet DS 1 and 6
6 Win – Bet Ds 1 and 6
31 Win – The 3 wins are achieved quickly, What would you do next.....??

Regarding your question what I meant by "normal DS progression" is if my BR
is lower, I increase bet size by 1 after a win (Plus coup progression).

Thanks


Cheers

R

Dane,

I have tried playing 100 spins using your method. Would you be kind enough to let me know whether this is right?

[reveal=100 spins]
[csv=,]
Spin,Bank roll,Notes
36,100,Repeater bet
36,105,
28,104,
13,103,
31,102,
28,101,
29,106,"Two hits. Aim for sleepers 1-2-4"
21,109,"Aim for sleepers 1-2"
2,113,Aim for sleepers 2
35,112,
27,111,
33,110,
25,109,
20,108,
5,107,
36,106,
32,105,Third double hit start re-tracking
9,105,Repeater bets
0,104,
33,103,
5,102,
22,101,
25,100,
33,99,
6,98,
26,97,
16,96,All six appeared. Retrack
3,96,Repeater bets
3,101,
6,106,"Second double hit. start on sleepers"
18,107,
15,103,third double hit. Start retracking
33,103,Repeater bets
17,102,
2,101,
18,100,
30,99,
1,98,
28,97,
15,96,
32,95,
33,100,
29,99,
8,98,
8,103,"Second hit. go for sleepers."
21,108,All six appeared. Retrack
28,108,
21,107,
25,106,
31,105,
25,104,
35,103,
30,102,
17,101,
14,106,
32,105,
24,104,
36,103,
20,102,
20,107,Second hit. Go for sleepers
14,105,
24,103,
13,101,
11,105,
31,104,
10,103,
35,102,
17,101,
32,100,
4,105,All six appeared. Retrack
16,105,Repeater bets
20,104,
20,109,
27,108,
36,107,
7,106,
2,105,All six appeared. Rettrack
30,105,Repeater bets
26,110,
8,109,
8,114,Go for sleepers
5,116,
8,113,
33,116,
16,120,
19,125,All six appeared. Retrack.
17,125,Repeater bets
9,124,
24,123,
27,122,
7,121,
29,120,
0,119,
27,124,
28,129,Second hit. Go for sleepers
13,127,
32,131,
11,130,
23,129,
1,134,All six appeared. Retrack.

[/csv]
[/reveal]

Rouletta

In your example, after the second win on DS 1, shouldn't you then bet the unhit or 'skiving' DS's?

Quote from: Rouletta on July 01, 2013, 10:19:15 AM
5 Bet DS 1
5 Win – rebet DS 1
34 Loss – Bet Ds 1 and6
6 Win – Bet DS 1 and 6
31 Win – The 3 wins are achieved quickly, What would you do next.....?? Bet DS6.

I don't think we have achieved 3 wins.
If I understand correct, it should be played like this. Dane, can you confirm.

Quote from: Rouletta on July 01, 2013, 10:19:15 AM
Hi Dane
Thanks for replying; Another clarification if the two hits is in the same double
street; Do u still count it as two hits...., or it has to be in two different DS...?

During testing on live wheel I have frequently seen the two hits come one after the
other or three hits come very quickly; Would you quit as you have
achieved the three hit; and start a new game afterwards.....; or would
you continue.... To try to get more hits.....?  For ex:

5 Bet DS 1
5 Win – rebet DS 1
34 Loss – Bet DS 1 and 6
6 Win – Bet Ds 1 and 6
31 Win – The 3 wins are achieved quickly, What would you do next.....??

Regarding your question what I meant by "normal DS progression" is if my BR
is lower, I increase bet size by 1 after a win (Plus coup progression).

Thanks


Cheers

R

Hi R
Two hits are two hits; you can count on that! In the beginning I bet on THE LATEST DS ONLY; and I  hope to win twice in this way, before all six have turned up. If you want to, you may choose another number of hits. It should be clear by now, however, that I have chosen TWO. After that I bet the DS that have not come yet.
5   BET DS 1
5   BET DS 1. Notice: This is my first hit.
34  BET DS 6, only DS 6 and nothing but DS 6!
6  BET DS 1
31 BET DS 6
33......Notice: This is  my  SECOND HIT! Now I stop betting the latest DS and turn to the skiving  DS.
BET DS 2, DS 3, DS 4, and DS 5
25 Leave DS 5. BET DS 2, DS 3, DS 4
13 Leave DS 3. BET DS 2 and DS 4
15. END OF SESSION. The latest  DS reappeared.  No more bets, please!
                                 Cheers
                                   Dane
               
                             

Quote from: Priyanka on July 01, 2013, 11:52:49 AM
Dane,

I have tried playing 100 spins using your method. Would you be kind enough to let me know whether this is right?

[reveal=100 spins]
[csv=,]
Spin,Bank roll,Notes
36,100,Repeater bet
36,105,
28,104,
13,103,
31,102,
28,101,
29,106,"Two hits. Aim for sleepers 1-2-4"
21,109,"Aim for sleepers 1-2"
2,113,Aim for sleepers 2
35,112,
27,111,
33,110,
25,109,
20,108,
5,107,
36,106,
32,105,Third double hit start re-tracking
9,105,Repeater bets
0,104,
33,103,
5,102,
22,101,
25,100,
33,99,
6,98,
26,97,
16,96,All six appeared. Retrack
3,96,Repeater bets
3,101,
6,106,"Second double hit. start on sleepers"
18,107,
15,103,third double hit. Start retracking
33,103,Repeater bets
17,102,
2,101,
18,100,
30,99,
1,98,
28,97,
15,96,
32,95,
33,100,
29,99,
8,98,
8,103,"Second hit. go for sleepers."
21,108,All six appeared. Retrack
28,108,
21,107,
25,106,
31,105,
25,104,
35,103,
30,102,
17,101,
14,106,
32,105,
24,104,
36,103,
20,102,
20,107,Second hit. Go for sleepers
14,105,
24,103,
13,101,
11,105,
31,104,
10,103,
35,102,
17,101,
32,100,
4,105,All six appeared. Retrack
16,105,Repeater bets
20,104,
20,109,
27,108,
36,107,
7,106,
2,105,All six appeared. Rettrack
30,105,Repeater bets
26,110,
8,109,
8,114,Go for sleepers
5,116,
8,113,
33,116,
16,120,
19,125,All six appeared. Retrack.
17,125,Repeater bets
9,124,
24,123,
27,122,
7,121,
29,120,
0,119,
27,124,
28,129,Second hit. Go for sleepers
13,127,
32,131,
11,130,
23,129,
1,134,All six appeared. Retrack.

[/csv]
[/reveal]

Congratulations, Priyanka! You have played  in accordance with the PRIMORDIAL version!