Quote from: Gizmotron on March 16, 2016, 04:12:09 PM
So, have you ever seen the global effect revealed clearly in charting? To ignore it for any reason tells me that I have failed to communicate anything of value.

Everybody fails to communicate anything of value to ND..

The global effect as you call it is sometimes clearly visible to experienced players, especially through charts.

I just don't have the RAS to confidently predict its stability when actually placing real money bets.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on February 20, 2016, 01:23:26 PM
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And what do you think of that comment now?

  If charting makes  your day then go ahead.


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Quote from: greenguy on March 17, 2016, 12:04:41 AM
!.)Everybody fails to communicate anything of value to ND..

2.)The global effect as you call it is sometimes clearly visible to experienced players, especially through charts.

3.)I just don't have the RAS to confidently predict its stability when actually placing real money bets.

1. -- That's funny. I've always like ND, and always will. I love the way he plays Nathan Detroit on the forums.

2. -- ... and it clearly does not appear to be happening at times too. But Oh Boy when it goes Nuclear, do I love that.

3. -- I can't predict its stability either. But it only takes a couple of risky bets that graduate upward for just a couple of spins to find out, with the original risked bet being not much bigger than a flat betting method. It's a method of checking to see if you are in a whirlwind of repetitive characteristics. That's when it is time to spank the casino. I'm experienced at taking chances on it. So I'm comfortable with a loss that shows it's not really happening. It only represents a flat bet loss to me to try. I just know to hammer it if it continues.

Quote from: NathanDetroit on June 21, 2016, 08:01:44 PM
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For  recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk.

Nathan, I think we see what you are saying. But the part that's missing is, if you
put yourself in the middle, playing like you are treading water, then what is the
plan or goal in play. And how do you get there?

These methods will, obviously, drift back and forth like a pendulum while using no
specific thing to push it one way or the other.  But there needs to be some methodology.

Can you add that in?  (And please without another "non answer"?)

First of all I decide  BEFORE going to the casino  that I am p;laying  the second  and  third columns  for that particular casino visit.My plan is to win 2  out of 3 sessions.

At the casino I  am  deploying a well disciplined MM  method consisting  of four parts.

Well that makes perfect sense.  I decide what I am (or am not) going to do when
I go and DO IT!!!

Like last week when I thought I'd give the 1,3,9 grassroots thing a try. And lost
at the 3rd group of 3.  $120 at a $5 table ($130 minute the 2 wins), and got it out
of my system.  Just turned the grinder and let it run.

But I think that the cautious approach is what helps. Like your 3 loss rule.
That loss was the first actual play "run" that I've made in possibly a decade.
But my plan is in place when I walk in.

But your answer still doesn't delineate much of what you smugly seem
to portray as a leg up through your picture of Sanatra and guarded descriptions
which create mystery.

HAPPY WINNINGS  to All.


Know your exit strategies . 


Time for me to move on.Where ever I go it  shall always be " My Way".



Nathan  Detroit aka WASHOO2 aka Tamino

Quote from: NathanDetroit on June 21, 2016, 08:01:44 PM
  If charting makes  your day then go ahead.


Maybe this  might be more to someones liking http://betselection.cc/dozencolumn-7/bet-selections-for-columns-made-very-simple/




For  recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk.

There are two sides of how to look at this.

I totally agree with ND on this matter.

On the other side, "charting" gives you some mental sense of
what you just did an how to proceed.  In discussions with Izak
(Let's talk about winning) and others sometimes someone will
suggest, "just play the method and guess at the bet selections
and see how it works".

The truth becomes that it will be the same. It's just that, somehow
under the covers, we don't trust our own judgement. That's the
bottom line. And "charting" gives us something to blame.

That certainly doesn't mean that I just guess. Even ND has his
"method" by picking the two dozens.

And while I'm thinking about this on that point, let me re tell my
story from about 20 years ago where I met an online guy named Victor.
He waited for 5-6 1st columb in a row. Then bet the other two (like ND)
for $500 each. Having a stop loss and win target. And the result was the
result.

One of the most ballsy and intuitive ways to play. Made the most sense.
Slight variation of staying out of the mix. Just make ONE $100,000 bet and
forget it.  But I can see shades of what ND does from this. It is NOT an
exact science. Just a methdolody.

Cause stuff IS going to happen. It's just a matter of how bad it will hurt you.

Having said that, I think that "charting" should be used to watch and identify
patterns and trends. I'm working on that now.  The simple clustering of events.
Like doubles. Singles. And streaks.