Hey, I got this one scratching around in my head - I'll cut to the system, nice and quick.
It's a double dozen strategy. It takes some waiting, but because it's in testing zone, I'm still looking into it and putting it out there for some comments etc and other input.
So we're looking for two consecutive lots of repeating dozens:
1
1
3
3 like so. Then we wait for a chop.
It may take more than one spin.
3
2 There we have it.
Now bet that dozen two won't repeat.
So essentially we are betting against long sets of repeating dozens.
Here, we are being ultra safe and waiting for 2 virtual losses.
I think looking at a few thousand, the worst I have seen is 5, but you're unlucky to go beyond 3, hence the 2 virtual bets to start off. The only problem is that you may only get 2-3 bets per 100 spins.
Fine if you have a bot or another system alongside it. You could, if you had a slightly safer progression than marty, only waitfor 1 virtual loss. Here's a brief sample.
1
2
1
1
3
2
2
1
1
1
3 bet here
2 win
BW
Wiz
Let me get this staight:
1
1
2
2
3...........Now we bet dozens 1 and 2; hoping 3 does not repeat?
Sam
Wiz
Second question:
Must we have this 1122? What if we have 11221? Does that start the search over again or will a 2 or 3 trigger a bet?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 05, 2013, 11:40:29 PM
Wiz
Let me get this staight:
1
1
2
2
3...........Now we bet dozens 1 and 2; hoping 3 does not repeat?
Sam
Correct Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 05, 2013, 11:43:23 PM
Wiz
Second question:
Must we have this 1122? What if we have 11221? Does that start the search over again or will a 2 or 3 trigger a bet?
Sam
Don't have to have 1122, just any repeaters, could be 3322, 1133, 2211 etc
11221 would mean you then bet dozens 2 and 3 to stop the third repeaters in a row
Here's a 100 spin testing session :
[reveal= 100 Spin Test Session]
3
3
2
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1
1
1
2
3
1
1
2
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1 bet dozens 2,3
3 Win
3
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1
1
1
3
2
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3
1
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3
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1
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1
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1
2 bet dozens 1,3
1 Win
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3
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1
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1 bet dozens 2,3
3 Win
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3
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3
2
1
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3 bet dozens 1,2
3 Lost
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2 bet dozens 1,3
3 Win
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1 bet dozens 2,3
2 Win
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[/reveal]
there's a typical session just to get your heads around the system.
Cheers, BW
Hi Buffalowizard!
I have tried this for Around 200 spins, and it kind of work,that i mean is that i played 7 games with it,i lost the first game , but recovered in the second game with 3 unit on 2 docen ,then i won the third and lost the 5 game and recovered that in the next and won the last game.
Like you say it takes a lot of time,would be perfect if we could harry up things in some way.
Very nice, thanks!!!
Agesta
Agesta
Patience is part of this devilish game. With it this system is a goodun. As you found out it will most often win within 2. Cheers
Quote from: agesta1 on August 06, 2013, 06:06:49 PM
Hi Buffalowizard!
I have tried this for Around 200 spins, and it kind of work,that i mean is that i played 7 games with it,i lost the first game , but recovered in the second game with 3 unit on 2 docen ,then i won the third and lost the 5 game and recovered that in the next and won the last game.
Like you say it takes a lot of time,would be perfect if we could harry up things in some way.
Very nice, thanks!!!
Agesta
I spoke to my friend Harry to see if he could "harry it up". He said the last thing he "harried up" had a baby so he declined.
TCHAgesta
This is perfect for a bot. While you can't speed up the process, you can walk the hounds while the bot sweats out the tough stuff.
TCS
Hi!
BW and Sam you are Booth right!
I will talk to Harry and see if he can cool me down!!!
agesta
Just played on smartlive RNG as live was down and won 30 units. Most wins on 1st bet, a few on 2nd bet andtwice it went to 3rd bet, i.e 9-9. Played about an hour. Would be even safer if waited for three virtual lossess!
Quote from: shazwad on August 07, 2013, 11:57:19 AM
Just played on smartlive RNG as live was down and won 30 units. Most wins on 1st bet, a few on 2nd bet andtwice it went to 3rd bet, i.e 9-9. Played about an hour. Would be even safer if waited for three virtual lossess!
You're right shaz but that would test even the patience of the Easter Island stone monoliths.
I think 2 is just about right unless you have a bot. If a milder progression could be adapted, only 1 virtual loss may be used?
Thanks for the testing !
Thanks for sharing BW. I was just wondering how to capitalize on the idea that you posted and how to make it a bit more faster. After some permutations and combinations it resulted in the following. Still working on milking more from this idea, but at the moment this is where I stand.
1. Instead of waiting for two consecutive lots of repeating dozens, I just wait for one failure on a LD bet. LD bet as explained by Sam and in the LW tracker published recently by Vic is you bet for last two dozens to repeat. Now I track until I get a failure. After the failure, just like you do, I bet once, only once for a win on LD bet. If it wins, I wait for the next opportunity. If it loses, I wait for the next LD win before tracking again and looking for next opportunity.
2. You can use your favourite double dozen progressions as and when a betting opportunity arises. This makes the game a bit faster.
Following is the result of playing this on the 100 spins BW has posted. Let me know whether it is worth pursuing any further.
[reveal]
Good win ratio in the spins you posted and +15u at the end of 100 spins and 20 betting opportunities.
[csv=,]
,LD,BR
3,,0
3,,0
2,,0
1,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,0
1,win,1
1,,1
1,,1
2,,1
3,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,1
1,loss,-1
1,,-1
2,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,-1
2,win,2
1,,2
3,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,2
3,win,3
1,,3
1,,3
1,,3
1,,3
3,,3
2,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,3
1,loss,1
3,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,1
1,win,4
1,,4
2,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,4
3,loss,3
2,,3
1,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,3
2,win,6
2,,6
1,,6
1,,6
1,,6
1,,6
1,,6
2,,6
1,,6
2,,6
3,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,6
2,win,7
3,,7
1,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,7
1,win,8
1,,8
1,,8
3,,8
3,,8
1,,8
3,,8
1,,8
3,,8
3,,8
1,,8
3,,8
2,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,8
1,loss,6
3,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,6
2,loss,0
1,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,0
2,win,9
3,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,9
3,win,10
2,,10
2,,10
3,,10
3,,10
3,,10
3,,10
2,,10
3,,10
1,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,10
3,win,11
2,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,11
2,win,12
2,,12
2,,12
2,,12
2,,12
3,,12
2,,12
1,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,12
1,win,13
1,,13
3,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,13
2,loss,11
2,,11
2,,11
2,,11
3,,11
1,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,11
1,win,14
1,,14
2,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,14
2,win,15
2,,15
1,,15
2,,15
2,,15
[/csv]
[/reveal]
this one fits in very well with the way I play now---I will eyeball it for awhile
thanks
Hi Yanks,
I really like your idea a lot - so much that I think it's strong enough and different enough from mine to be considered on it's own, so maybe you should publish it separately. I'm glad you were inspired to create it because it's looking solid. Of course, keep us updated of further developments.
Tomla,
As I said, it's a bit too boring to be a stand alone system so, yeah, would make a nice side line and see how you go. Post any results if you can mate. Cheers
BW
Quote from: Priyanka on August 07, 2013, 01:35:24 PM
[reveal]
Good win ratio in the spins you posted and +15u at the end of 100 spins and 20 betting opportunities.
[csv=,]
,LD,BR
2,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,3
1,loss,1
3,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,1
1,win,4
1,,4
2,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,4
3,loss,3
2,,3
1,virtual loss. Bet on Last two dozens,3
2,win,6
[/csv]
[/reveal]
You increases 3 chips each dozen after loss? Always?
What is the criterion of bets?
I have used a double dozen negative progression of 1,3,9 here. I have started using postive progression now which is working well.
Quote from: Priyanka on August 07, 2013, 11:05:29 PM
I have used a double dozen negative progression of 1,3,9 here. I have started using postive progression now which is working well.
I will test using the ideas of Stetson Bailey, "Foolporof method".
Increases one unit when you win or when you lose ... reet progression when the balance is positive
I'll post the results
Any updates on this system......testing n results?[smiley]aes/macbook.png[/smiley]