I don't know what Bayes might say but I do know this. Everything shifts on a kind of law of thirds. It's a constantly moving target.

A programmer doesn't need a grid. You just need four populated lists. These lists can be comma delimited and sorted by display. I can use them to filter back twenty to thirty spins, searching for any global effects, and also filtering back 10 spins to find the best 18 numbers. This process of eliminating table configuration and pet groupings is brilliant for my needs. I just let the hot opportunities come to me. I guess I now have thousands of groups instead of just 20.

Hi Gizmotron,

I am curious how you would choose bet selection while at a live table without all of your sorting tools and filtering. You need some kind of reference. If not by grid, then how?

I use random against random, stream of consciousness if you will. Do you do the same? or are you changing your groups as you play?

TC

TC, my casino won't let me even use a cell phone at the table. But there is no stopping the on-line gambler. With one button click I would get 18 numbers, all sorted. It would take no more than two seconds. I'd have a list like this:

2, 7, 11, 13, 14, 17, 19, 23, 24, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36,

By sorting the list from low to high, by possibly breaking it into several lines, it is quick and easy to set the bets in time.

Interesting. When you do play live, do you play random like I do?

TC

Quote from: The Crow on March 15, 2013, 04:36:24 AM
Interesting. When you do play live, do you play random like I do?

TC

Why don't you tell us all how you play.

QuoteI don't believe in past numbers. So I take a picture of a wheel, cross out 12 numbers randomly, divide the rest of the numbers into two groups of twelve with the zero in one which makes is 13. When a numbers comes in one of the groups, I bet the other group, one unit per number. I use a progression of 1, 2, 5, 7, 9 - stop loss.

Crazy, but it works for me.

TC

I did.

How do you play?

TC

Hello . . .

Stef and I updated Buffsters tracker with a "Spin" button that will instantly re-sort the numbers into the different sections allowing you to make a choice of bets.

Buffster has authorized us to release his tracker but unfortunately, it contains a "macro" which is not an allowable file to be uploaded into the forum.

So any of you who wish to have this tracker, kindly send me an email at nickmsi@aol.com and I will be glad to forward it to you.

Thanks and enjoy . . .

Nick & Stef

Quote from: Nickmsi on March 15, 2013, 04:31:31 PM
Buffster has authorized us to release his tracker but unfortunately, it contains a "macro" which is not an allowable file to be uploaded into the forum.

Tell me the extension for me to enable it. 

Cheers!

Hi Vic . . .

The extension for this file   .xlsm

Thanks

Nick

Hi Nick, thanks for the sharing.
Kindly try again 

Vic has fixed the upload problem.

Attached is Buffster's Excel Tracker updated with an easy "Spin" button to get the numbers re-sorted.

Simply input the numbers in Column A (Yellow) and when you have enough just click the "Spin" button to resort Column E and then make your bet selections.

You will need to have your macro "enabled" for this to work.  If you are not familiar with enabling the macros then:

Click on the "Developer Tab" along the top of Excel. It is between "View" and "PDF".
Then Click on Macro Security
Then Click on Macro Settings
Then Click on Enable All Macros.

Enjoy . .  .

NIck & Stef

Quote from: spike on March 14, 2013, 09:12:38 PM
It never balances and even thinking that way
when playing is a minefield.

It never balances and that's how it can be exploited.  Of course there will never be the same amount of triples as singles.  Singles will always out number doubles.  Doubles will always out number triples etc... This is balance in a perfect random sequence.  You know what to expect, and this is how it can be taken advantage of.  Whenever a particular sequence is showing 'un-balance' like tons of triples, and longer streaks, i know that a correction is right around the corner.  Those can be the most profitable times.

Quote from: ll l lll ll l lll on March 17, 2013, 03:28:30 AM
Singles will always out number doubles. 

Hi II I III II I III

When you say the above, would you clarify your thinking for me?
If it goes
R
R
B
R
R
we can see 2 doubles and a single...my question is...
R
R
B
R
B
R
R
Lets take the  B R B part. Is that three singles or is it a triple because it's a series?

Thanks in advance.

Quote from: Blood Angel on March 17, 2013, 11:07:31 AM
Hi II I III II I III

When you say the above, would you clarify your thinking for me?
If it goes
R
R
B
R
R
we can see 2 doubles and a single...my question is...
R
R
B
R
B
R
R
Lets take the  B R B part. Is that three singles or is it a triple because it's a series?

Thanks in advance.

BRB is 3 singles.  In my opinion the only way anyone can play this way is with practice.  You need to be able to see what you have, anticipate what might be coming, and know when and when not to bet.  Every bet is a guess, but with experience you can come out on top flat betting.  You have to look at the entire history, the past 16-20 spins to make a decision.  A truly random stream will have pretty even amount of switching with more singles than doubles, more doubles than triples, more triples than 4+, etc...

When the stream is not showing true random, you can wait, and with practice get proficient at when the correction may be coming.  If you are correct, those can be the most valuable times.  You only have to get a little more than half of your bets correct.  Even if you are breaking even at 50%, your still doing better than just about everyone else.

Your short example above shows 4 singles, 2 doubles and 1 quad.  A fairly typical random sequence.  You can be cautious here with singles as the next few bets because theyve already shown what you would expect in that short sample.