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Philosophy & Framework => Gambling Philosophy => Topic started by: Sputnik on January 16, 2013, 09:18:17 AM

Title: Masse Egale
Post by: Sputnik on January 16, 2013, 09:18:17 AM

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About even money bets they say you can not gain plus 1 unit flat betting and win more overall then you lose as there does not exist a positive expectation.
We know the game has a negative expectation, but how close can we get hovering around break even point or even reach a positive tram during periods of time playing.

That is a question i ask.
I try out a bet selection with even money bets using the odds 2 against 1 to see how it preforms.

The math behind flat betting is very simple.
Lets assume we say that we try to win plus 1 unit for each session.
Then plus 1 unit has to overcome the amount of attempts we using to achieve plus 1 unit.

With this experiment we use two attempts for each attack to gain plus 1 unit.

Random org 2013 01 16
Flat betting.
20 Sessions.
Win plus 18 units.
Loss minus 4 units.


-2
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
-2
+1
+1
+1
+1


That was a positive tram ...
Next looks like this ...

Random org 2013 01 15
Flat betting.
16 Sessions.
Win plus 10 units.
Loss minus 12 units.


+1
-2
+1
-2
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
-2
-2
+1
-2
+1
+1
-2


This one is hovering around break even point.
Title: Re: Masse Egale
Post by: Drazen on January 16, 2013, 09:45:59 AM
Ahh finally, very nice to see you here Sputnik  :thumbsup:





Best


Drazen




Title: Re: Masse Egale
Post by: Ralph on January 16, 2013, 11:46:57 AM
Winning one unit a session on an EC flat betting, is to bet until 1 plus, is there other ways?. It is to find the moment to start.
Title: Re: Masse Egale
Post by: esoito on January 18, 2013, 04:42:40 AM
Welcome Sputnik!

Um...I'm wondering what you are actually betting on.

[My apologies if it was explained already... I blinked and missed it! ]
Title: Re: Masse Egale
Post by: MarignyGrilleau on February 10, 2013, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: Ralph on January 16, 2013, 11:46:57 AM
Winning one unit a session on an EC flat betting, is to bet until 1 plus, is there other ways?. It is to find the moment to start.


No less...
Title: Re: Masse Egale
Post by: Ralph on February 10, 2013, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: MarignyGrilleau on February 10, 2013, 03:32:43 PM

No less...


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Title: Re: Masse Egale
Post by: Ralph on February 10, 2013, 03:59:28 PM
One way to try to overcome the -ev, is to  make a guess if it will chop or be series. This play I assume it will not chop most of the time. It went streaky for a while and I just FTL bet. Trying to get 10.
Title: Re: Masse Egale
Post by: Sputnik on February 10, 2013, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: esoito on January 18, 2013, 04:42:40 AM
Welcome Sputnik!

Um...I'm wondering what you are actually betting on.

[My apologies if it was explained already... I blinked and missed it! ]
I use the odds 1 in 3 as dozen playing even money bets and just aim for the two last events to repeat.