Quote from: spike on December 14, 2012, 10:40:15 PM
The use of the term trigger defeats the explanation of what
random is. It traps you into thinking its something it isn't.
To deal with random effectively, you need to understand
it as well as possible, and that means not trying to make it
do things that aren't possible.

To beat random you don't need it to do anything. You simply need it to be poor at doing something. And a TRIGGER is PURE GOLD when it comes to identifying the start of that.

Random has VIRTUAL LIMITS. Points it can not pass very often. FIND one of these virtual limits. And forge a PLAYABLE method around it. And the games beaten.

That's exactly what Ill prove by July. No mathematician, detractor or negative thinker will be able to refute this.

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 14, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
To beat random you don't need it to do anything. You simply need it to be poor at doing something. And a TRIGGER is PURE GOLD when it comes to identifying the start of that.

Not suprizingly, I have no idea what this means. Does anybody?


"Random has VIRTUAL LIMITS. Points it can not pass very often."

Really? Name some limits. Go ahead, you can do it. Right?

"That's exactly what Ill prove by July."

that's what you said about The Zone, and we waited
and waited and we're still waiting. You have a track
record on predictions, you never make good on them.

Quote from: spike on December 14, 2012, 11:12:26 PM
Not suprizingly, I have no idea what this means. Does anybody?


"Random has VIRTUAL LIMITS. Points it can not pass very often."

Really? Name some limits. Go ahead, you can do it. Right?

"That's exactly what Ill prove by July."

that's what you said about The Zone, and we waited
and waited and we're still waiting. You have a track
record on predictions, you never make good on them.

I was never in a position to conduct a test for real money back then. I am now.

The zone was/is a good method that I will prove is profitable in time.

PATTERN BREAKER is very good. FIVE and 7 ON 1 semi grails. All will be proven money makers and roulette defeaters.


I am putting myself on the.line with real working methods. Can you do the same?

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 14, 2012, 11:24:36 PM



I am putting myself on the.line with real working methods. Can you do the same?

By making statements you can't back up? Why would I want to do that?

You just said "random has virtual limits". Like what? Name some
limits, explain what you mean. Why do so many people here love
to make statements they can't back up? They act offended when
you ask them to explain something.

Any statement I make here I will gladly explain till the cows come
home. I never make a statement I can't back up.

Quote from: spike on December 14, 2012, 11:39:52 PM
By making statements you can't back up? Why would I want to do that?

You just said "random has virtual limits". Like what? Name some
limits, explain what you mean. Why do so many people here love
to make statements they can't back up? They act offended when
you ask them to explain something.

Any statement I make here I will gladly explain till the cows come
home. I never make a statement I can't back up.

One of randoms VIRTUAL LIMITS. Is it struggles to keep a dozen under producing a 5 Gap I.E a dozen that hits sleeps for 4 spins then hits again or greater a 6 gap or more for more than 30 consecutive spins.

This is what 7 On 1 deals with. And played H.A.R you can win several thousand times to every loss. Making it a semi grail. Basically a.method that will always produce a profit.

I am not into endless theories, this will be proven beyond doubt. The play strategy coupled with H.A.R. Is a powerful pairing.

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 14, 2012, 11:47:41 PM
One of randoms VIRTUAL LIMITS. I struggles to keep a dozen under producing a 5 Gap I.E a dozen that hits sleeps for 4 spins then hits again for more than 30 consecutive spins.

"I struggles to keep a dozen producing a 5 gap"

HUH? What on earth does this mean???

"a dozen that hits sleeps for 4 spins than hits again
for more than 30 spins"

And what the heck does THIS mean? Seriously, I
have no idea.

Quote from: spike on December 15, 2012, 12:04:46 AM
"I struggles to keep a dozen producing a 5 gap"

HUH? What on earth does this mean???

"a dozen that hits sleeps for 4 spins than hits again
for more than 30 spins"

And what the heck does THIS mean? Seriously, I
have no idea.

Example this is a 5 gap for DOZEN ONE---11--13--24--33--22--12.
That should be straight forward to understand.

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 15, 2012, 12:10:30 AM
Example this is a 5 gap for DOZEN ONE---11--13--24--33--22--12.

A dozen doesn't hit for 5 spins and that's a virtual limit on
random outcomes? How so? Its just a dozen not hitting
for 5 spins, it doesn't mean anything.

How is it a limit on random?

Quote from: spike on December 15, 2012, 12:25:12 AM
A dozen doesn't hit for 5 spins and that's a virtual limit on
random outcomes? How so? Its just a dozen not hitting
for 5 spins, it doesn't mean anything.

How is it a limit on random?

What I am saying is go and see how many times you can count over 30 CONSECUTIVE SPINS. Without seeing a dozen produce a 5 gap or more.

7 ON 1 takes advantage of this weakness in random. You think you are the only person who knows anything about random behaviour. Think again. The difference is im not merely talking. This is going to be proven with real money.

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 15, 2012, 12:31:29 AM
What I am saying is go and see how many times you can count over 30 CONSECUTIVE SPINS. Without seeing a dozen produce a 5 gap or more.

Let me get this straight. You think in every 30
spins, every dozen sleeps for at least 5 in a row.
Is that correct?

Quote from: spike on December 15, 2012, 12:38:04 AM
Let me get this straight. You think in every 30
spins, every dozen sleeps for at least 5 in a row.
Is that correct?

No to be precise as you will find out when Victor finishes the tracker/tester for 7 ON 1. RANDOM struggles to produce more than 3 or 4 gaps like this 1--23--32--27--3. Before it MUST then produce a gap like this 1--23--32--27--30--3 or more. It could on occasion total more than 30 spins because of repeaters and shorter gaps of 2 or three. But seven 4 gaps in a row playing H,A,R. Will be rare.

This is a by product of playing the ZONE for many years. I noticed that random simply cannot stay under 5 or more for too long. And played H.A.R its scarey. I might go years without loss.

For 7 ON 1 to lose random at the PRECISE time I decide to play a game. Has to show me seven 4 gaps without producing a 5 gap or more. And using H.A.R that's very, very, very hard to lose.

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 15, 2012, 12:45:52 AM
RANDOM struggles to produce more than 3 or 4 gaps like this 1--23--32--27--3. Before it MUST then produce a gap

"Random struggles" and "it MUST". Random doesn't do anything
deterministically, it just is. There's a lot I could say at this point
about what you think you have and the amount of actual experience
behind it, but it would have the censors going berzerk, so I won't
bother.

You don't have to attempt to explain anything more, I now know exactly
where you're coming from.

Quote from: spike on December 15, 2012, 01:54:51 AM
"Random struggles" and "it MUST". Random doesn't do anything
deterministically, it just is. There's a lot I could say at this point
about what you think you have and the amount of actual experience
behind it, but it would have the censors going berzerk, so I won't
bother.

You don't have to attempt to explain anything more, I now know exactly
where you're coming from.

Spike no need to get excited. This is the point to be proven. You have your theory, I will have proof to support what I say.


And that's all there is to it.

"...but it would have the censors going berzerk..."

No chance of that. The affliction doesn't exist!

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 15, 2012, 02:58:29 AM
This is the point to be proven.

But you've already proven the point. You prove it every
time you try and explain it. Its just not the point you're
expecting, that's all. But it's a nice hobby, gives you
something to do. Kind of like a religion where people
wear those cool foil hats and they say things like
'This July, you'll see. You'll all see! You won't be laughing
at me then!"

I understand completely now..