Gambling Philosophy section, so... here's one for those inclined to bet on the lesser side: what are the reasons for considering one number selection as the ultimate bet selection according to you?

One can only wonder if they are the exact opposite on why a maximum-coverage with a 35-number bet sucks.

There are some concepts for backing this up, including attaining the maximum volatility, for getting ahead the most within the short-term of a session.

What are your thoughts about one-number selections?

Let's talk about this very interesting 1 

Gentlemen,
we already heard,
the stale argument, that 1 ,
may sleep forever,
till you lose your farm,
(hope no one talk no more about this boring sleep!)

My half cent,
choose a favorite number,
or wait till the one ,
that after the last 36no. hit,
and bet, for, say,
1u, for 35spins,
(if hit, restart, bet for 35spins...)
if not, STOP BET.
Wait for a virtual hit, then bet for 35 again.

this way, we avoid, long variance, and if the 1, a hot number, then,
we made a killing.
if unlucky, then just take loss, go home.

Playing a single number could be practically the worst choice and a perfect no, in real casino environment. Unless one has patience to keep playing thousands of spins to conclude a game, it is not recommended.
           For better understanding what can we get to see playing a single number by any parameters one can see the fate of #3 of zumma in http://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/albalaha's-open-challenge-can-anyone-beat-the-worst/

I did my first research on randomness with seeking the three hottest numbers in 300 spins.


This is what can happen. The hottest number hit 24 times in 300 spins. You need 9 winning bets, while betting flat, to break even with 300 bets on a single number. That hottest number that hit 24 times did not hit for 64 spins while still hitting 24 times in the 300. Now that is the extreme. You can count on the hottest number hitting between 14 and 18 times for each 300 spins. Typically a number will be hotter in the first half than in the last half. In that last 150 spins another number will be hotter than the hottest number for the full 300 spins. So segments of 100 to 150 spins is a better choice if you can find it for picking the hottest numbers.


It's a very interesting thing to try to beat Roulette with. It might be fun to create a bot that seeks out the best hottest number.

Thanks for the very interesting repeater observations, Gizmotron.

I hope those people chasing repeaters can find some meat on the bone here.

I'll stick my neck out and say that betting 1 number is relatively, or essentially the same as betting any 1 position on the layout. So best to consider them all..

You have these options. 1 number, 1 split, 1 street, 1 corner, 1 six-line, 1 dozen/column, and 1 EC. If you're playing the race track then obviously you have other complications and available options for placing 1 bet.

Traditionally though, the zero can be used for 1 number, 1 spilt, 1 street, and 1 corner only. It cannot be used for 1 six-line, 1 dozen/column, or 1 EC. This leaves open the possibility of including a hedge bet on the zero from six-line and beyond. Surely that's something to consider..

Most people "poo poo" the zero insurance bet, but I'm not convinced it's always a bad thing.

Does make it 2 placed bets though, sorry.

What I'm trying to say is the only number on the wheel with any leverage is zero. So if you want to play only 1 number or position, then the number or position you should play is zero.

If you're not content with that and you shouldn't be , and so decide to complicate your bet with more numbers and more positions, then the first number or position you should play is zero.

Still does make it 2 placed bets though, sorry

Thanks for your thought-provoking input guys, this type of discussion is quite enjoyable (at least to me ).

I really like the fact we can learn from each other simply by interacting, while also enriching other fellows' knowledge as we do so.

Quote from: Albalaha on October 09, 2016, 05:20:27 AM[...]Unless one has patience to keep playing thousands of spins to conclude a game, it is not recommended.

With the way I'm playing one number right now, I'd be the happiest man if my game wouldn't conclude in thousands of spins.

I've learned the hard way you must not try to recover with negative progressions, not even soft ones.

Right now I apply a money management akin to the 75% MM posted at:

http://betselection.cc/money-management-103/75-money-management/

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It is actually 80/10/10 now and I’m happy happy, joy joy with the results.

The attack bank is 36 units per cycle.

No stop win.

Once a cycle is lost, it isn’t “chased” at all.

This fallen cycle bankroll should be absorbed by new “cushion” minimal-unit banks arising naturally, especially by means of a good "compound walk”. Never rising the unit from the lifetime bank.

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You know? I’m actually surprised there isn’t more discussion about compounding the base unit, reserve bankrolls and -in general- discussion about Inter-session money management.

A Full-Stack MM handling reserve banks, exact amount of $$$ to take on success and what to do in between sessions is quite important if you ask me.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7qu1w1ma5sikyru/HotNumber.exe?dl=0


Here is an app for researching single hot numbers.


You hit Start, then Continue

You can change the number you bet on and the number of losses before it stops after a win.

Quote from: greenguy on October 10, 2016, 12:30:07 PM
What I'm trying to say is the only number on the wheel with any leverage is zero. So if you want to play only 1 number or position, then the number or position you should play is zero.

I've no idea what this means. All numbers have the same "leverage" and there's nothing special about the zero.

Quote from: Mike on October 11, 2016, 08:28:15 AM
I've no idea what this means. All numbers have the same "leverage" and there's nothing special about the zero.

Of course you are right Mike. There's nothing special about the zero. Not when betting 1 number anyway.

I do write some confusing stuff sometimes, don't I?  Hey, sorry about that.

I kind of turned this thread upside down because while most people seem to be focusing on 1 number or 1 position, or a few of same, I am more focused on betting every number on the layout with various arrangements. Eventually, the complications of the bet result in the zero being included most effectively each time by an individual bet. So that's the leverage.

In essence, I disagree that betting 1 number may be the ultimate bet selection.

why not a split? or one street or a corner? If something works for numbers it may be useful for the others.

Quote from: wannawin on October 11, 2016, 01:20:18 PM
why not a split? or one street or a corner? If something works for numbers it may be useful for the others.

Why do you think I settled on groups the size of 12, 14, 16, 24, and 26? The characteristics of one single hot number are true in the short run of only a few spins when it comes to larger groupings of numbers. The search for a temporarily constant characteristic is the bigger picture here. Exploitation of an opportunity, with self control always kept in mind, is better than long termed guessing.

Quote from: Gizmotron on October 11, 2016, 02:55:00 PM

The search for a temporarily constant characteristic is the bigger picture here.

That's why I build my bet to include all 37 numbers. I can never lose my whole bet, more often than not lose very little, and when the more heavily weighted numbers show, I take the profit.

Everything in roulette is fleeting. Hence, temporarily constant characteristics are credible.

The good news is these characteristics, in fact all the possible characteristics of roulette can and do form of their own volition regardless of the input channels.

Where I play, Star City Casino in Sydney, there must be close to 50 roulette wheels. I've never counted them, but upstairs/downstairs, there must be close to 50.

If I walk a circle around the whole gaming floor of all levels and write down the last number to show from each of the 50 or so wheels, then repeat the circle all night long, the number stream I will have recorded is guaranteed to exhibit all the characteristics of roulette as if taken from a single wheel.

There will be runs and chops and sleeping dozens and hot numbers and repeaters and terrible twos and grouping finales and numerological anomalies, and every other type of characteristic you care to mention.

If you think you need to tough it out and grind through a session on 1 wheel, then you have a lot to learn about the nature of this game.


Take the well-schooled MrJ for example. He occasionally posts about dealers giving him a hard time with counter measures, etc, so he has to play methods that can be rapidly calculated with only a few numbers to bet. Well that suggests being stuck on 1 wheel in hope that whatever he's chasing will eventually show up.

I can absolutely state that MrJ could move off the troublesome table and not diminish the chances of whatever he's chasing showing up in same fashion.