Quote from: Sputnik on March 09, 2013, 11:25:35 PM

Well testing systems is a waste of time if you think they will win in the long run ...
All you need to do is one educated guess based upon what is current and present in front of you ...
That is a kind of methodology, but i don't know what some one would name it ...

I use to test, during play, and do not get any news from longer simulations. Still I use some classic methods.
We win when the ball fall on our bets however we chose them.

Quote from: Ralph on March 09, 2013, 11:41:04 PM

I use to test, during play, and do not get any news from longer simulations. Still I use some classic methods.
We win when the ball fall on our bets however we chose them.

Well i still think you better of using what is last and present ... then chasing for things that has no show ...
We know that one number can sleep for 400 and more and we know several numbers can sleep for 100 and so on ...
We know that one dozen can sleep for 32 times in a row and we know nothing is due to happen ...
So it keeps on going ...

Let's meet in Las Vegas sometime in May, the first two weeks of May.

I'm sure you professionals can make it. Prove that there are professional in this world. The challenge can be determined collectively.

Qualifications: Expert in single zero and double roulette tables, must be able to win equal amounts, not just one wheel.

TC

I hope Spike accepts The Crow's challenge.

He's been asked several times on  this forum to substantiate some of his claims. Not to give away his secrets, mind. Simply to provide proof.

After all, words are cheap and easy to drop on the table.

He wriggles every time, and cites some spurious reason for failing to do so. [His reply #30 above to Gizmotron's request  is a classic example.]

Now's his chance to prove just how good, how professional  he really is...

Quote from: The Crow on March 10, 2013, 06:16:29 AM
I'm sure you professionals can make it. Prove that there are professional in this world.

Yeah, um, prove it to who, exactly. What's the point, I don't
get it. Does the winner get a trophy and a pat on the back?

Please give details on why anybody would do this.

Quote from: esoito on March 10, 2013, 06:34:41 AM
Now's his chance to prove just how good, how professional  he really is...

You really have to help me out here. Do I see any
of you across the table from me at Thanksgiving?
Do you make decisions on what casinos I play at?
Am I involved with any of you on some financial
level I'm not aware of?

Please explain why I have to 'prove' anything to
you. Who are you, exactly..

Beggars, what else?

Professional poker players can actually meet and can sit at a table, match wits, exchange banters, and determine who will be the best player, that day.

Roulette players sit at the table and challenges the casino. But, they don't want any roulette players knowing their secrets.

So what happens when you gather all of these roulette players to one table to beat the house. Can you imagine?

Here's some examples.

"What are you doing? You can't beat roulette by playing outside bets."
"That's b___s___, progression will kill you"
"Man you don't have enough BR."
"You call yourself a professional."

Most roulette players do not get any respect from other professions, because they are children in adult bodies.
All they want to do is argue all the time. Hell, if I want that, I would have found me a crazy woman.

My point is there is nothing to prove, only that roulette players are solitary animals and will protect their territory by pi**ing every where they can, not with urine, but by hurtful words.

TC

Quote from: spike on March 09, 2013, 10:43:37 PM
Sure there is, just not here on a public forum. Here we
discuss theory, in the casino we put it to the test.

The recipe for Coca Cola is a deep dark secret, locked
in a vault somewhere. They never discuss it. Yet evidence
that it works is everywhere. Would you fault them for
never revealing their secrets? I doubt it.

My evidence manifests itself every time I play. How else?

Some are victims of urban myths. Coke is not a secret, it should not be allowed to be sold without a declaration. Anybody can copy the stuff easy, but they can not compete with the trade mark.  All trying to copy Coke may make the same product, but will not be able to make any good business. The asset of Coca Cola Company is 98% the trade mark.

Quote from: The Crow on March 10, 2013, 01:31:26 PM
So what happens when you gather all of these roulette players to one table to beat the house. Can you imagine?
TC

It has no reason to happen, just like a meeting of
BJ card counters will never happen. Its pointless,
it would accomplish nothing. Advantage players are
not known to hang out together. They usually avoid
each other like the plague, with good reason. A meeting
in Vegas to have a pi**ing contest is silly, roulette
players have nothing to prove to each other, like poker
players do. The casino is our enemy, not the guy next
to us at the table.

QuoteA meeting in Vegas to have a pi**ing contest is silly, roulette
players have nothing to prove to each other, like poker
players do.

Roulette players, philosophically speaking, have nothing to prove at the tables.  But, here, and other forums, they manage to try and prove each other wrong or misguided.

Go figure.

TC

Quote from: The Crow on March 10, 2013, 05:16:47 PM
  But, here, and other forums, they manage to try and prove each other wrong or misguided.
TC

that's for entertainment only, has nothing to do with
real playing.

What is the purpose? Nothing to learn here then, only entertainment. Entertainment it is.

Who here can turn 500 units into 4000 units in 8 hours or less of playing roulette?; that would be entertaining, of course playing for fun only.

TC

Quote from: The Crow on March 10, 2013, 08:29:51 PM
What is the purpose? Nothing to learn here then, only entertainment. Entertainment it is.

Who here can turn 500 units into 4000 units in 8 hours or less of playing roulette?; that would be entertaining, of course playing for fun only.

TC

I have done better than that, the odds are small, but it was done in minutes.  You do not need a brain to do it, just some surplus money, and luck.  Go for a parlay.  Nowdays I aim for smaller gain.

I am sure many have achieved much higher goals with different circumstances. Try doing it at Celtic casino where you are given 500 credits to start, maximum bet on even chances, 200.00, red, black, odd, even, high, low. and 2 to 1 payoffs, rows and dozens.
maximum bets of 10 straight up on a number.

Now, that's a challenge and fun to achieve. I have never lost on that site.

TC