"If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe." -Nikola Tesla

I discovered something about the numbers 3 6 9 when I was working on system9 earlier this year. I will share it on this thread.

What I will say is that it is the most 'freaky' thing that I have ever witnessed when playing this game.

It will take a bit of explaining and I will start in the morning when I have a clear head. (It is about 1.00am here now)

Well, I'll be up all night!

Are you awake yet Bally ?

...not that we're at all  eager to find out...

TIME TO W A K E  U P!!     

he is still asleep 

we just have to wait then

I am wide awake now. 

Here is the chart that I used for system9.

1-1 = (1,12)
1-2 = (1,2)
1-3 = (2,3,4)
1-4 = (3,4,6)
1-5 = (4,5,8)
1-6 = (5,6,10)
1-7 = (6,7,11)
1-8 = (7,8,9)
1-9 = (7,8,9)
1-10 = (5,9,10)
1-11 = (3,10,11)
1-12 = (1,11,12)

2-1 = (1,10,11)
2-2 = (2,12)
2-3 = (1,2,3)
2-4 = (2,4)
2-5 = (3,5,6)
2-6 = (4,6,8)
2-7 = (5,7,9)
2-8 = (6,7,8)
2-9 = (5,7,9)
2-10 = (3,8,10)
2-11 = (1,9,11)
2-12 = (10,11,12)

3-1 = (1,8,10)
3-2 = (2,10,11)
3-3 = (3,12)
3-4 = (1,2,4)
3-5 = (2,4,5)
3-6 = (3,6)
3-7 = (4,7)
3-8 = (5,8)
3-9 = (3,6,9)
3-10 = (1,7,10)
3-11 = (8,11)
3-12 = (9,12)

4-1 = (1,6,9)
4-2 = (2,8,10)
4-3 = (3,10,11)
4-4 = (4,12)
4-5 = (1,2,5)
4-6 = (2,4,6)
4-7 = (3,5,7)
4-8 = (3,4,8)
4-9 = (1,5,9)
4-10 = (6,10,11)
4-11 = (7,9,11)
4-12 = (7,8,12)

5-1 = (1,4,8)
5-2 = (2,6,9)
5-3 = (3,8,10)
5-4 = (4,10,11)
5-5 = (5,12)
5-6 = (1,2,6)
5-7 = (2,3,7)
5-8 = (1,3,8)
5-9 = (4,9,11)
5-10 = (5,9,10)
5-11 = (6,7,11)
5-12 = (5,7,12)

6-1 = (1,2,7)
6-2 = (2,4,8)
6-3 = (3,6,9)
6-4 = (4,8,10)
6-5 = (5,10,11)
6-6 = (6,12)
6-7 = (1,7)
6-8 = (2,8,11)
6-9 = (3,9)
6-10 = (4,7,10)
6-11 = (5,11)
6-12 = (3,6,12)

7-1 = (1,6)
7-2 = (2,3,7)
7-3 = (3,5,8)
7-4 = (4,7,9)
7-5 = (5,9,10)
7-6 = (6,11)
7-7 = (7,12)
7-8 = (1,8,10)
7-9 = (2,8,9)
7-10 = (3,6,10)
7-11 = (4,11)
7-12 = (2,5,12)

8-1 = (1,3,5)
8-2 = (2,5,6)
8-3 = (3,7)
8-4 = (4,8,9)
8-5 = (5,9,11)
8-6 = (1,6,10)
8-7 = (2,7,11)
8-8 = (8,12)
8-9 = (1,9,10)
8-10 = (2,8,10)
8-11 = (3,6,11)
8-12 = (4,12)

9-1 = (1,4,5)
9-2 = (2,5,7)
9-3 = (3,6,9)
9-4 = (4,7,11)
9-5 = (1,5,8)
9-6 = (3,6,9)
9-7 = (4,7,10)
9-8 = (2,8,11)
9-9 = (9,12)
9-10 = (1,10)
9-11 = (2,8,11)
9-12 = (3,6,12)

10-1 = (1,3,7)
10-2 = (2,4,9)
10-3 = (3,5,11)
10-4 = (1,4,6)
10-5 = (3,5,7)
10-6 = (5,6,8)
10-7 = (6,7,9)
10-8 = (4,8,10)
10-9 = (2,9,11)
10-10 = (10,12)
10-11 = (1,10,11)
10-12 = (2,8,12)

11-1 = (1,2,9)
11-2 = (2,3,11)
11-3 = (1,3,4)
11-4 = (3,4,5)
11-5 = (5,6)
11-6 = (6,7)
11-7 = (7,8)
11-8 = (6,8,9)
11-9 = (4,9,10)
11-10 = (2,10,11)
11-11 = (11,12)
11-12 = (1,10,12)

12-1 = (1,11)
12-2 = (1,2)
12-3 = (3)
12-4 = (4,5)
12-5 = (5,7)
12-6 = (6,9)
12-7 = (7,10)
12-8 = (8}
12-9 = (6,9)
12-10 = (4,10)
12-11 = (2,11)
12-12 =  (12)

Everything gets worked from this chart if you are playing system9.

I will start a separate thread revisiting system9 and also add 'system18' and 'system36'.

This thread is just concentrating on what I call the '3 6 9 phenomenon'.

I played a game yesterday and it happened pretty quickly. So I will just replicate the game and show you what I mean.

Now in system9, I always wrote 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 at the top of a piece of paper.

(for anyone that does not know, it is a streets based system)

The first number out was 20. This is obviously the 7 street.

20) 7.

The next number out was 18 which is street 6.

20) 7.
18) 6.

Now here is where I need to use the chart for the first time because the streets have changed from a 7 to a 6.

All I do is go to the chart where it shows 7-6. I see written next to that 6-11.

So I put in the 6-11 on my piece of paper like so...

20) 7.
18) 6. 6-11.

Now I also cross out the 6 and 11 from the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 that I wrote out at the top of the piece of paper.

So my piece of paper now looks like this....

1 2 3 4 5 x 7 8 9 10 x 12.

20) 7.
18) 6. 6-11. (10) **I also put a (10) in brackets here just to signal that there are now 10 streets left. Remember I have wiped two of them out.

ok.. next number is 1.

My piece of paper now looks like this..

x x 3 4 5 x x 8 9 10 x 12.

20) 7.
18) 6. 6-11. (10)
01) 1. 1-2-7. (7)

You can see that there are now only seven streets still to come out in the 1-12 row at the top.

Next number is 20.

My piece of paper now looks like this..

x x 3 4 5 x x 8 9 10 x 12.

20) 7.
18) 6. x-x. (10)
01) 1. 1-2-x. (7)
20) 7. 6-7-11. (7)*

So you can see the 6 7 and 11 have already appeared and so I can't cross out any more numbers from the 1-12 at the top. I have crossed out the 6 7 and 11 with some x's in the markings. The * next to the second (7) just represents a repeat of the 7.

*I have not got to the 3 6 9 bit yet. I am getting there. 

The next number out is 18.

My piece of paper now looks like this..

x x 3 4 5 x x 8 9 10 x 12.

20) 7.
18) 6. x-x. (10)
01) 1. 1-2-x. (7)
20) 7. x-7-x. (7)*
18) 6. 6-11. (7)*

The next number out is the 7.

My piece of paper now looks like this.....

x x x 4 5 x x 8 x 10 x 12.

20) 7.
18) 6. x-x. (10)
01) 1. 1-2-x. (7)
20) 7. x-7-x. (7)*
18) 6. x-11. (7)*
07) 3. 3-6-9. (5) -here is where the 3-6-9 made it's appearance-

The last two streets to appear are the 6 and 3 and I also have the 3-6-9 marked down.
This is an indication that I am store for the '3 6 9 phenomenon'. What tends to happen here often is that you now get a cluster of either the 3 6 or 9 street appearing. What also tends to happen most of the time is that they alternate.

So if the 3 street appears... bet for the 6 and 9 street next.
If the 6 street appears... bet for the 3 and 9 street next.
If the 9 street appears... bet for the 3 and 6 street next.

The next number out was 26.

My piece of paper now looks like this...

x x x 4 5 x x 8 x 10 x 12.

20) 7.
18) 6. x-x. (10)
01) 1. 1-2-x. (7)
20) 7. x-7-x. (7)*
18) 6. x-11. (7)*
07) 3. x-x-x. (5)
26) 9. 3-6-9. (5)*

So I am up and running and this can go on for a good few spins. The great thing about it is that it is only a 2 chip bet. You can afford to increase the wager a bit if it keeps hitting and get a nice payday.

The next number out was 17.

My piece of paper now looks like this...

x x x 4 5 x x 8 x 10 x 12.

20) 7.
18) 6. x-x. (10)
01) 1. 1-2-x. (7)
20) 7. x-7-x. (7)*
18) 6. x-11. (7)*
07) 3. x-x-x. (5)
26) 9. x-x-x. (5)*
17) 6. 3-6-9. (5)*

The next number out was 26.

My piece of paper now looks like this...

x x x 4 5 x x 8 x 10 x 12.

20) 7.
18) 6. x-x. (10)
01) 1. 1-2-x. (7)
20) 7. x-7-x. (7)*
18) 6. x-11. (7)*
07) 3. x-x-x. (5)
26) 9. x-x-x. (5)*
17) 6. x-6-x. (5)*
26) 9. 3-9. (5)*  That was the end of the 3 6 9 for now.

This phenomenon started to stand out because of how the 3 6 9 kept repeating when I was marking my card and some of the runs I get with it are freaky like I said.


Then I read a few things Nikola Tesla said.

So I think there is more to this 3 6 9 than just pure luck.

It does run right through the game which I will show you all when I present some new ideas.

Anyway, as I always say, don't take my word for it. Test it and you can see for yourself.

cheers

Here are some numbers from a session I played today.

I will put the markings from the chart next to them. I won't cross anything out which obviously I would if playing.

34) 12
21) 7  7/10.
35) 12  2/5/12.
22) 8  8.
17) 6  1/6/10.
14) 5  5/10/11.
09) 3  3/8/10.
08} 3  3/12. **I would not bet here because it is not 3 6 9 even though two street 3's appeared**
25) 9  3/6/9. **Now I have the 3 6 9 and would bet streets 3 and 6.**
26) 9  9/12.  **oh well. It sometimes comes like this. stop betting**
10) 4  4/7/11.
09) 3  3/10/11.
08} 3  3/12.  **It's playing funny buggers at the moment**
06) 2  2/10/11.
30) 10  3/8/10.
07) 3  3/5/11.
19) 7  4/7.
02) 1  1/6.
24) 8  7/8/9.
15) 5  5/9/11.
04) 2 2/6/9.
12) 4  2/4.
24) 8  3/4/8.
02) 1  1/3/5.
27) 9  7/8/9.
22) 8  2/8/11.
34) 12  4/12.
18} 6  6/9.
17) 6  6/12.
02) 1  1/2/7.
32) 11  3/10/11.
18} 6  6/7.
26) 9  3/9. **It's trying**
18} 6  3/6/9.  **play the 3 and 9 street here**
18} 6  6/12.  **no luck whatsoever. stop betting**
17) 6  6/12.   
16) 6  6/12.
31) 11  5/11.

Talk about hitting everywhere except the bullseye. Only lost 4 units.
It does show what I am getting at however.

cheers

Yesterday on table 4 at spielbank wiesbaden


Total +46.

The day before yesterday on table 4 at spielbank wiesbaden

+12.

I don't use it as a stand alone method. It is certainly a handy thing to have at your disposal. Having a handful of half decent trigger bets requiring not much outlay gives you the opportunity to increase your bets when things are going well and causes minimal damage in a lean spell.


cheers

http://hans.wyrdweb.eu/tag/magic-square/    Maybe here is something interesting, not sure but something to think about also. 


Regards Timo

Quote from: Timo on November 21, 2012, 11:08:20 PM
http://hans.wyrdweb.eu/tag/magic-square/    Maybe here is something interesting, not sure but something to think about also. 


Regards Timo

Perhaps RAY and Clothdog use something similar, who knows but I know they are no losing this game ( roulette ).


Regards Timo

Thank you Timo.

I will take a look at that.

cheers

Quote from: Bally6354 on November 21, 2012, 11:32:53 PM
Thank you Timo.

I will take a look at that.

cheers

  Thanks.


Regards Timo

Bally, on a similar note to the link Timo posted.

Please have a look on youtube for Vortex Based Mathematics by Marko Rodin. 

Vortex Based Mathematics - Marko Rodin

I don't comprehend it in detail, but hopefully it helps you.

Best Regards,
stringbeanpc

Thank you stringbean    I will watch that tomorrow morning.

Todays results on table 4 at spielbank wiesbaden were interesting.

Look at the bottom of column 1.

8
8
26
7
17

and then go to the very bottom of column 10 and the start of column 11.

16
9
17
9
26
26
8
18