Quote from: Sputnik on June 22, 2017, 04:56:48 PM
Stephen Tabone i can run 100 real baccarat shoes and post both results and the particular shoes if you help me how to improve the strategy beyond what you wrote in the book (second edition).

This is how i understand the original rules in your book and posted at this topic.

1) You main aim is to reach +3 units win target and then continue to push for more (if we play 100 shoes or more) and if we fail we stop at +2 units if not getting higher results.
2) When we reach 35 to 40 hands and not reach our win target we aim to cut loses short and break even or stop at -1 -2 -3 units.
3) If we not reach rule (2) then we aim to reach win target +3 units or hit loss limit -6 units.

Is that correct or is it more to it ?

Cheers

1)okay do this then, push for more than 3, so if 4 push for 5, if go back to 3 take 3, if goes 5, push for 6, if back to 5 take 5 and so on.

2) When we reach 35 to 40 hands and not reach our win target we aim to cut loses short and get out at break even
3. Worse shoes get out 3- as soon as you reach 3- IF BEFORE HALF WAY!

4) add up all Banker taxes, i.e. only add taxes where you won on bank not lost on bank!

btw, this has nothing to do with 3rd book, but is the tweak related to 2nd

what you should find is 50% shoes 3 or more + / say Av 5+ (being conservative) x 50 = 250+
30% break even / = 0
20% 3- / 25 x 3- =60-

total 100%

190+

less banker win 5% taxes, only pay taxes on banker wins / est 50- banker taxes over 100 shoes, therefore net + = 140

but idea was to get out 3+ per day, but okay run it as you wish shoe by shoes, though there is a difference.

Sorry guys for any confusion, misunderstandings, re my strategy, i may have assumed one element was a given/understood in my 2nd book, I've sent a number of you Private messages to clarify any misunderstanding relating to the mode of play of my strategy. Hope that helps change your results to see profits. If you are not sure about something Please send me a private message. Thanks. Stephen. 

Thanks Stephen, that sure made a difference when playing.
I got +26 units after 20 shoes and can feel the change when applying the new rules.

Cheers

Quote from: Stephen Tabone on June 22, 2017, 06:10:40 PM
Sorry guys for any confusion, misunderstandings, re my strategy, i may have assumed one element was a given/understood in my 2nd book, I've sent a number of you Private messages to clarify any misunderstanding relating to the mode of play of my strategy. Hope that helps change your results to see profits. If you are not sure about something Please send me a private message. Thanks. Stephen.

Stephen,

  I went back to your "book" and triple checked it for your "correction" to the system play that you have graciously PM'ed to me.   It wasn't in there at all and your "correction" changes the order of play in no small way, almost changing the complete element of the method!

  The obvious problem with the original 2nd edition system was the "Sporadic One" (with apologies to Ellis for that nomenclature).   Your "new" explanation does take some of that out of the equation.

  With that said, I believe I'll wait for Edition 3.0 to show up before doing any more testing or retesting of previous shoes.

  I WILL run the latest iteration of TUBS on any of the shoes that get posted by Alrelax as you seem to believe that my shoe history is suspect for some reason.  At least this way we'll have a valid, current live shoe to work with from time to time and as several of us have the system play in hand, we will be able to see if there are any problems between us.

  I'll save my further comments for a later date.

  AD

Thanks.

Quote from: ADulay on June 22, 2017, 06:56:32 PM
Stephen,

  I went back to your "book" and triple checked it for your "correction" to the system play that you have graciously PM'ed to me.   It wasn't in there at all and your "correction" changes the order of play in no small way, almost changing the complete element of the method!

  The obvious problem with the original 2nd edition system was the "Sporadic One" (with apologies to Ellis for that nomenclature).   Your "new" explanation does take some of that out of the equation.

  With that said, I believe I'll wait for Edition 3.0 to show up before doing any more testing or retesting of previous shoes.

  I WILL run the latest iteration of TUBS on any of the shoes that get posted by Alrelax as you seem to believe that my shoe history is suspect for some reason.  At least this way we'll have a valid, current live shoe to work with from time to time and as several of us have the system play in hand, we will be able to see if there are any problems between us.

  I'll save my further comments for a later date.

  AD

AD, I have 4 from last night and I am trying to close up soon and head to the casino tonight.  I will save them.  Will post them in the baccarat thread, no problem.  Thanks. I always mark the card up with "B" or "P" and I do it horizontal, if you want anything else, let me know.

Thanks for your help in this matter alrelax

this is what I suggest to those interested. though i don't watch / bet on live online baccarat, we choose one that is proper life online, we notes down the results, not playing or free money or real money just note down the results on a certain day/time we could take turns, just watch and take notes, min 6 deck shoes, then we will have stats upon which to test with. What do you say? If any one know an open online live dealer baccarat we could all view? Maybe one advertised from this site?

Try Black Orchid Casino.  They deal from a real 6 deck shoe.

John

Quote from: bacply on June 22, 2017, 10:45:48 PM
Try Black Orchid Casino.  They deal from a real 6 deck shoe.

John

do they have real person dealers? and can you view results without registering / depositing funds?

You can watch live baccarat on Betstreak. 

Black orchid Casino has real live dealers, with real live shoes.  You must register but do not have to deposit funds.  You can play for free. In fact, in the USA you cannot deposit funds and play for real.   I would be happy to help test the system.
John

https://www.blackorchidcasino.com

I've already tested the system, it's for any other to test if they want to get some real shoe results from live dealer shoes,but thanks for your offer.

If anyone wants me to check their shoe results, 6 deck will do, please send here and I will check against TUBS and post scanned results. Please post your results horizontally like this BPBPBP rather than like this,
B
P
B
P ETC

I use TUBS all the time when I gamble and do leave the casino winning

when I play big I  use TUBS 3.0
3.0 will be out July
If you liked 3.0 (I know some of you don't but some do) You'll love 3.0 it's a game changer.