Quote from: Stephen Tabone on June 27, 2017, 12:54:57 AM
that one single shoe you have selected I would be 1- having exited half way through. If you want you're welcome to select 1,000 losing shoes. But you'll never post the winning shoes! I doubt that every much. Thus your posting of shoes in this respect is pointless. In my future book, 3.0 there are no bad shoes. Big claim I know but this is the truth.

what was the shoe I posted live from the casino and I won nearly $30,000 with it in my buddy one $39,000 with it to table or Casino lost about $200,000 Plus on that shoeI also posted 16 plus shoes on my thread you haven't run method on them each ones posted in the separate replied to the thread

Quote from: alrelax on June 27, 2017, 03:47:13 AM
what was the shoe I posted live from the casino and I won nearly $30,000 with it in my buddy one $39,000 with it to table or Casino lost about $200,000 Plus on that shoeI also posted 16 plus shoes on my thread you haven't run method on them each ones posted in the separate replied to the thread

lol I'm happy you won.

Steven in all seriousness you think I post only shoes that are against your system I honestly do not know your entire system I just don't play mechanically preconceived but placement methods. End of story I  play the way that I play that's highly successful LOL I don't play every day I play almost every week on the local scale I post almost all of my results the losing games no one likes to post no one likes to think about that's the way a real Gambler is I'm sorry.  I wrote about all this in my blog the amounts I lose our between 500 and maybe 1500 when I play I win thousands tens of thousands when the shoes are good in the shoes are doing what I was meant to do for the player I win big that's the way I play I'm not a grind player I don't play a couple hundred dollars and settle for a couple unit win every week I don't do it I admit it this many times. By the way I posted 16 shoes or 18 for you that are lives shoes over the last couple of months but you don't go on and analyze each one and talk about your system I took the time it took me at least 3 hours to find those shoes and then load each one separately for you I did that for you and it'll be the very last time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: alrelax on June 27, 2017, 02:30:27 PM
I  play the way that I play

I'm happy the way you play works for you and that you won 30#$that's all I wrote.

http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/16-live-bm-shoes/

Quote from: alrelax on June 27, 2017, 06:45:49 PM
http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/16-live-bm-shoes/

I'm glad for you that you won $30,000 using a system. Well done.

It was not a mechanical pre-conceived bet placement wagering system.  I attack shoes as they present themselves from all direction.  What I mean by that is, using a system--at least the ones i have read about and are familiar with to a certain point, is they wager with the 'N' (North) direction.  I wager and think and attack shoes using the following directions.  North-Northeast-East-Southeast-South-Southwest-West-Northwest. 

I don't limit myself to winning $500 or $2,000.00 or losing a certain amount.  I limit myself to losing my buy-in as risk money.  I do not limit myself to what i can win based on my 1/3, 1/3/ 1/3rd money management system that will allow me to keep winning and as well--maintian a certain amount of the win money without a chance of giving it back from my chip stack in front of me.

But my wagers are not a system.  I might do a 180 on wagering thinking 10 hands down the shoe or for the next same event that occurs.  That is what I am trying to spell out. 

I'm glad for you that you won $30,000 using a system that works for you. Well done. Fantastic.

Quote from: alrelax on June 27, 2017, 06:45:49 PM
http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/16-live-bm-shoes/

So what happened?  Why don't you run you system on each shoe and mark it up??  What's the problem??

Evidently there is one???

Quote from: alrelax on June 27, 2017, 09:08:00 PM
So what happened?  Why don't you run you system on each shoe and mark it up??  What's the problem??

Evidently there is one???

I am happy that you won $30,000 using a system you know works well.

I have advised readers to check their own shoe results for the sake of clarity and so they get used of the mode of play they chose to try out and or adopt. I've repeated this a number of times.

In addition your shoe results are in a mess not clear. Text all over the score car, errors, scribbles etc, no reader would trust them to be frank. Though they maybe real i.e. genuine to you  Alrelax, you have to see it from readers point of view moreover after all the talk of fake shoe results that other members had stated and then the sudden deleting of the said shoe results, notwithstanding the fact that the word 'fake' had been used in reference to your shoe results in the past. This is old ground thus can't understand why you are continuing posting shoe results targeted at me. It's nonsensical and just demonstrates other things.

Best to allow individuals to check their own shoe results they have noted down in order to try on whatever system they wish to try those results on. Hope this explains the issue yet again.   

As well as the aforementioned reasons, I will not check them because I've checked my own strategy over 10,000 shoes. Therefore there is no point for me to engage with what you keep on trying to force. Thank you but no thank you.

They are real score cards, people write on them, at least all the casinos i play at in the USA, LOL.  Great excuse.  Errors???  Possibly one or two scratch outs where i wrote something before it happened or wrote something in a wrong spot and crossed it out.  LOL.

Okay Stpehen.  I will ask you here and now, Please do not come on any thread of mine that I originated or answer anything I post on this board every again.  At least i am not saying it behind your back like many do. 

I think you are a poor commercial venture for this board.  I have a right to say, i have donated more money to Vic than your measly sponsorship thus far. 

Quote from: alrelax on June 27, 2017, 09:56:58 PM
They are real score cards, people write on them, at least all the casinos i play at in the USA, LOL.  Great excuse.  Errors???  Possibly one or two scratch outs where i wrote something before it happened or wrote something in a wrong spot and crossed it out.  LOL.

Okay Stpehen.  I will ask you here and now, Please do not come on any thread of mine that I originated or answer anything I post on this board every again.  At least i am not saying it behind your back like many do. 

I think you are a poor commercial venture for this board.  I have a right to say, i have donated more money to Vic than your measly sponsorship thus far.

I am sorry you feel the way you do but I think I have explained the situation as clear as I can.

I am happy that you won $30,000 using a system you know works well.

I have advised readers to check their own shoe results for the sake of clarity and so they get used of the mode of play they chose to try out and or adopt. I've repeated this a number of times.

In addition your shoe results are in a mess not clear. Text all over the score car, errors, scribbles etc, no reader would trust them to be frank. Though they maybe real i.e. genuine to you  Alrelax, you have to see it from readers point of view moreover after all the talk of fake shoe results that other members had stated and then the sudden deleting of the said shoe results, notwithstanding the fact that the word 'fake' had been used in reference to your shoe results in the past. This is old ground thus can't understand why you are continuing posting shoe results targeted at me. It's nonsensical and just demonstrates other things.

Best to allow individuals to check their own shoe results they have noted down in order to try on whatever system they wish to try those results on. Hope this explains the issue yet again.   

As well as the aforementioned reasons, I will not check them because I've checked my own strategy over 10,000 shoes. Therefore there is no point for me to engage with what you keep on trying to force. Thank you but no thank you. Good luck 

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Quote from: Stephen Tabone on June 26, 2017, 03:42:57 PM
I own you Mike. I think I've won the debate.

lol, if rhetoric wins debates, then you may be right. But most of your "argument" consists of logical fallacies. As far as I'm concerned the debate is about systems and whether SOME of them can win (and yours in particular). You haven't given any reasons why we should believe that some systems CAN win in the long term, but have just offered red herrings, straw men, and ad hominems (you should know what those are if you've studied philosophy - logic 101).

And I have recently acquired a copy of your book (2nd version), and having read it, I don't understand why you say it's subjective. The system is very simple and could be explained in 4 lines (the rest is padding).

You don't seem to be bragging about the positive reviews any more, perhaps that's because they're increasingly negative. Last time I looked there were 5 reviews on Amazon UK, and 2 of them were 1 star. Also it's worth noting that the only VERIFIED purchases were those negative reviews.

Quote from: Mike on June 28, 2017, 07:50:24 AM
lol, if rhetoric wins debates, then you may be right. But most of your "argument" consists of logical fallacies. As far as I'm concerned the debate is about systems and whether SOME of them can win (and yours in particular). You haven't given any reasons why we should believe that some systems CAN win in the long term, but have just offered red herrings, straw men, and ad hominems (you should know what those are if you've studied philosophy - logic 101).

And I have recently acquired a copy of your book (2nd version), and having read it, I don't understand why you say it's subjective. The system is very simple and could be explained in 4 lines (the rest is padding).

All text is relevant to the main strategy, if a bettor or person wants to gain unit wins s/he must know about money management. It's all logical.

Reviews take time to come through even verified reviews Mike. People don't always read books as soon as they receive them. Also Mike, I had sold copes independently thus not all reviews left will be verified ones. I think u need to wait 2 years at least for reviews to iron out. There are books on baccarat that had been published years ago and reviews only now coming in. What makes mine any different. Reviews don't interest me, moreover ones from the mob. Sales do, which is why my book appears in the #1 spot on Amazon best seller out of all Baccarat books! So put that in your mathematical pipe and smoke it!  Sales are important because the more people learn about my systems there more they will beat the casino. My next two books in the series will demonstrate this to be true.

I try to develop systems that most people can understand and follow rather than complex nonsensical systems. If you're looking for something more complex to win at a 50/50 game a chance I'm sure the workshop mob in Vegas will help you for $1,000. You know the one run by your mob friends. I do have a degree in philosophy Mike and in another tread offered to scan and email it to Vic so that he could call the university to confirm. But your mate Alrelax went silent after slandering me, stating I was fake and uneducated and a fraud. Well what do you expect when he fears having the limelight taken away from him. 

As I wrote previously, I'm in it for the long haul. I'm a game combat master. Alrelax posts fake shoes and fake results and attacks me but he is just promoting my work because people do not believe a word he writes. He is not an honest man and has lost all credibility, if he even had any in the first place. He posts lies on his thread and then bans me from responding to them when they refer to me. What kind of a person does this? Only an odd ball. You write against me but I don't ban you do I?

My book is currently on offer for those interested, click on the link below for the best offers. I recently donated funds to this site as promised and plan to donate more in the future. Alrelax your mate from the mob won $30,000 using my strategy and has not donated a cent to this site. Geed greed greed.