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Started by Sputnik, December 09, 2013, 02:52:17 PM

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Sputnik


We all know the principal of 1/3 where we clustering patterns into three outcomes / groups.
I come up with an idea how to cover all possibilities that not all 8 patterns / combinations will have a show.
That is a sequence of 24 trails.

Now i will try to explain how it is done.
First we will start with out colors and just look at the formations.

There is 4 existing formations.

XXX
XOX
XXO
OXX

Now no matter what formation show first i bet same will repeat with one single bet.

XXX
X

Here i would bet X next
Or if we hade following formation

XOX
X

I would bet O next
If no win then i get two different formations

XOX
XXO

Then next bet, the second bet would be betting that one of does two formations would repeat.
Then you wait to see what formation will match before you make one single bet.

If the formation starts with XO then you would bet for XOX
It the formation starts with XX then you would bet for XXO

Lets say we lose and get three unique formations.

XOX
XXO
XOO

Now you have only one formation left if not one of does previous three will repeat.
And we have only placed two single bets.

So now XX or XO will be dominating formation and with this example above it is two formation that start with XO.
So next bet would be for a change XO, the third bet.

XOX
XXO
XOO
X

Lets say will lose

XOX
XXO
XOO
XX

Then we would place our last bet that XXO would show.
This is a total of four single bets.

Now we lose them all and all 4 formation show.

XOX
XXO
XOO
XXX

Now if you do this with colors you bet as follows.

If the first color is Red then you bet first there will be black.
If not you then follow the march i describe above.

So that is a total of 7 single bets.
If you would lose you would get all 4 formation with the same color.

RRR
RRB
RBR
RBB

Next would be playing Red as not black would show following the same march as i describe.
Does would be 8 single bets and a total of 15 single bets to cover the 24 trails or that all 8 patterns would have a show.

RRR
RRB
RBR
RBB
BBB
BRB
BBR
BRR



Pockets

Sputnik,

Very interesting approach to limit the number of bets barring the green thing that might pop-up once in a while. If John legend is reading he would be happy to see this as this fits into his approach to the wheel. By the way wanted to ask, is there any progression approach that you would recommend Sputnik for this type of play. I have something in mind, let me see how it works out and if its good, will post it.



Sputnik


Well there is one issue or loop hole with this method.
I will try to explain later.

AMK

Hello Sputnik!!

In my opinion this is just brilliant analysis, amazing how you see these angles Sputnik.

I have a few ideas but have to work them through.

Looking forward to your next post Sputnik!

Many thanks!! : )

Sputnik

Quote from: AMK on December 11, 2013, 11:23:59 AM
Hello Sputnik!!

In my opinion this is just brilliant analysis, amazing how you see these angles Sputnik.

I have a few ideas but have to work them through.

Looking forward to your next post Sputnik!

Many thanks!! : )

AMK i test the march and it is very stable and i notice you only place 6 bets at the first state as you wait for one pattern to show.
Good news and that is 6 + 8 = 14 steps.

I will test this with a 6 step progression to win or break even as first level.
Then the other level with 8 step as recovery plan.

It is pretty amazing that you can reduce it down to 14 attempts covering 24 trails.



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2    1    1 LL
1    2    2 W
1    2    2 LW
2    1    1 W
2    1    1 LW
2    2    2 LL
2    1    1 LW
1    2    2 W
2    2    1 W
2    1    2 LL
2    1    2 LW
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2    2    1 W
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2    1    1 W
2    1    2 LW
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2    1    2 W
1    2    1 W
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1    1    1 LW
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2    2    1 W
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2    2    1 LW
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2    2    2 W
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1    2    2 W
2    2    2 W
1    2    2 W
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2    2    1 LL
2    2    2 LL
2    2    1 W
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Sputnik

 - LOL - this is still new for me and i discover its only 13 attempts covering 24 trails.
Correcting this topic.

RRR
RBR LL
RRB LL
RBB LL
BBB L
BRB LL
BBR LL
BRR LL

Wrong again i was thinking right the first time.
The last bet is to cover three bets.

RRR
RBR LL
RRB LL
RBB LL
BBB L
BRB LL
BBR LL
BRR LLL

So its 14 but still amzing.

Sputnik

RRR
RBR L
RRB L
RBB LL
BBB L
BRB LL
BBR LL
BRR LLL

LoL i reduce the bets down to 12 covering 24 independent trails.

You just bet the formation at first state with 4 bets.
Then you cover colours and no repeats for the next 12 outcomes placing 8 bets.
Following the march i describe.

AMK


Teorulte

I just tested just under 100 000 sessions using random numbers (without zero) and arrived at the following table:


10
246
31965
417085
541817
632005
76847
8228
total99993
As you can see in 99 9993 sessions, there was 8 unique patterns in 228 sessions. 

Sputnik


6 sides of a dice have 98.5% repeating and 1.5% that each side will show once.
What is the statics with 8 sides ?

Nickmsi

 Hello . . .
Attached is a Tracker to help test Pattern Betting of this type.
The Tracker simply tracks the formations of the 8 patterns of XXX, OOO, XOX, OXO, XXO, OOX, XOO, OOX.
When it finds that the last 6 patterns are Unique (no repeats), then it bets that the next 2 patterns will not be unique, ie. it bets for a repeat.
Cheers
Nick

FLAT_IN_O

Does it actually means you are topping 6 bets ??? ?Or last 2.

Nickmsi

Hello Ivica . . .

The Tracker starts to bet after 6 unique Patterns are formed.

Then it bets up to the next 6 spins.

When it hits the Profit Target of +1 it stops betting. 

So if you win spin # 1, then it stops at the Profit Target of +1.

When ever it hits the Profit Target of +1, it stops the session.

So you only bet as many spins as necessary (but no more than 6) to hit the Profit Target of +1.

You can adjust the Profit Target higher if you wish to see how they will do.

I did a quick test of this system and the results are in Column BG at +292 units.

Hope this answers your question.

Nick



FLAT_IN_O

It does,thk.Nick........it seems one of those very slow approaches to get to the finish line...very similar
to JL approach...and me no have patience playing this manual...will stay with wheel & carpet dancing
tango approach...