http://vegasclick.com/gambling/betting-system-challenge.html

Cheers

If someone wins his challenge, he gets their system for $30,000.  I'm sure his rules are so stringent that anyone winning would have the "Grail".  How can this guy lose??

Hey, I gots 30 Gs.....  "Lemme think on it!  Baby, Baby, lemme think on it.  Lemme think on it; I'll give you an answer in the mornin'"....Meatloaf

Sam

This is a very clever way to either earn money without risk or get a pure grail for the price of $30k only. Give me a key of unlimited treasure and I will pay you $30k for that. Those who can not simulate their so-called grails in enough random sessions will fall trap of such challenges.

Quote from: Marshall Bing Bell on February 03, 2014, 07:18:30 AM
Not only would I beat this challenge, but I would beat it first go.

The question is, why would I (or anyone else) disclose an extremely valuable method that is the result of literally thousands upon thousands of hours of hard work and research for a $30k pittance and a pat on the back?

Not even for a million dollars, mate.

30 thousand? What is that, 3 or 4 months wages? What a joke!

Show me $5 million to my $5000 and I might take notice.

             Now, this is the exact reason no one would like to put his real winning system (call it HG or whatever) here and if such systems can not be sold for even $30k, who would put it for free here for thousands of members and guests to see?

Quote from: Albalaha on February 03, 2014, 07:34:55 AM

             Now, this is the exact reason no one would like to put his real winning system (call it HG or whatever) here and if such systems can not be sold for even $30k, who would put it for free here for thousands of members and guests to see?

for once Albalaha, I am in total agreement.

"The question is, why would I (or anyone else) disclose an extremely valuable method that is the result of literally thousands upon thousands of hours of hard work and research" >>> I agree.

Ken

Everyone seems to agree over this yet all are pushing me to write my HG here. One of the critics N.D. openly writes here:
http://www.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20117.msg146977#msg146977
Roulette I  a form of recreation  for  me  and I  have   some of the best methods available . Those  methods I would never  publish  or discuss in any forum.
N.D.

Double standards.

Quote from: Albalaha on February 03, 2014, 09:33:50 AM
Everyone seems to agree over this yet all are pushing me to write my HG here. One of the critics N.D. openly writes here:
http://www.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20117.msg146977#msg146977
Roulette I  a form of recreation  for  me  and I  have   some of the best methods available . Those  methods I would never  publish  or discuss in any forum.
N.D.

Double standards.

Once again you have it wrong Albalaha, it is you that demands eveyone post thier system if they make any sort of claim and at the same time you make sensational claims that you will not back up. The simple solution is for you to shut up unless you have something useful to contribute and this is not meant as an insult.

Quote from: pb65 on February 03, 2014, 12:32:16 PM
Once again you have it wrong Albalaha, it is you that demands everyone post thier system if they make any sort of claim and at the same time you make sensational claims that you will not back up. The simple solution is for you to shut up unless you have something useful to contribute and this is not meant as an insult.

I do not demand anything from anybody. Pockets claimed to do this in all numbers alike and even posted his method with hypothetical winnings (his claim shifted from winning more than 26k chips to 4k chips on number 3), he asked me to provide W/L of all zumma numbers. Now he dare not put here how he worked out the end figures. Please do not talk of useful contributions because you have nothing to do with that. Instead of getting frustrated about not getting my system or that of other claimants, focus on what you do have here.

Quote from: Albalaha on February 03, 2014, 01:21:13 PM
            I do not demand anything from anybody. Pockets claimed to do this in all numbers alike and even posted his method with hypothetical winnings (his claim shifted from winning more than 26k chips to 4k chips on number 3), he asked me to provide W/L of all zumma numbers. Now he dare not put here how he worked out the end figures. Please do not talk of useful contributions because you have nothing to do with that. Instead of getting frustrated about not getting my system or that of other claimants, focus on what you do have here.

Why is every other discussion of yours pointing back to me albalaha. Is it because I claimed that I beat the challenge that you posted.

OK. HERE YOU GO. I HAVE NO BUSINESS WITH YOU AND YOUR ZUMMA NUMBERS. I NEVER BEAT YOUR NUMBER 3. I NEVER BEAT ALL THE NUMBERS IN YOUR CHALLENGE. HOPE THAT SATISFIES YOUR EGO.

NOW I WARN YOU NOT TO BRING ME INTO EVERY QUESTION ASKED TO YOU. ANSWER THEM DIRECTLY. IF YOU can't, NOW THAT I HAVE SAID MY CLAIM IS WRONG, GET LOST FROM THIS FORUM AS YOU PROMISED. BE A MAN OF YOUR WORDS. I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF YOUR RANTS HERE. MY LAST POST ON ANY DISCUSSION INVOLVING ALBALAHA. AND MIND YOU, AM BEING VERY POLITE IN WRITING THE ABOVE.

Quote from: Mr J on February 03, 2014, 09:06:32 AM
"The question is, why would I (or anyone else) disclose an extremely valuable method that is the result of literally thousands upon thousands of hours of hard work and research"

This is just nonsense. What do we have this forum for? Exchanging ideas, testing systems. Having others opinions. Most of the time it will fail ofcourse, this is the nature of roulette. But i believe it's not an impossible quest, well, it's almost impossible, perhaps why i like the challange. AND if i find anything that works i be happy to share it. This secret keeping attitute is stupid. You know i been playing roulette for almost 5 years now daily, and i have invented many systems. But obviously no simple/mechanical system will work. Randomness will kill it

"Randomness will kill it"...he said from within the whirling smoke.


Ah, yes!  Randomness is the "black ice" on the bridge to success.  Many have slid sideways and crashed!

Don't even ask!  I've got more bent fenders than most of you and I'm still trying to drive over that darn bridge.

TwoCat

"Randomness is the "black ice" on the bridge to success" >>> Very cool, I'll be using that one.

Ken