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Title: Baccarat Cheating Prosecuted in Singapore
Post by: alrelax on November 26, 2023, 05:08:47 AM
Link to article.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/foreign-syndicate-taiwan-malaysia-baccarat-formula-mbs-casino-3938776
Title: Re: Baccarat Cheating Prosecuted in Singapore
Post by: AsymBacGuy on November 29, 2023, 01:01:18 AM
According to the numerous articles dedicated to the fact, there are some both unsound and interesting aspects.

First of all, why choosing Singapore do set up the plan, only Vegas would be worse.
Around the world there are casinos, at least in the short run, which are not worried about anything or close to anything.

Then, the plan was built by too many unnecessary risky steps.

If they were counting side bets, people use way better and unrisky plans to do that.
Moreover the new optical shoes show the cards dealt in the display so large that one peer could track cards at a far distance. And certain phones can register or utilize advanced softwares.

But I discard the side bets attack as in one article was cited that they were tracking both the value and the suit of any card. Then their profits were too huge to be reached just in a week of play, considering average edge and variance.     

The interesting part is that they placed their bets only at shuffle machine tables and of course the 'baccarat formula' calculated by an excel sheet opens the doors to a kind of magic "baccarat is scientifically beatable" world.
As well as those of the jail and of law courts in their case.  :))

as.
Title: Re: Baccarat Cheating Prosecuted in Singapore
Post by: 8OR9 on November 29, 2023, 01:54:32 AM
Well if the article is trustworthy and there were no crooked dealers involved, then it appears there may be some type of mechanical method to beat the game if you can test it over a large sample size..

However, just like many slot machine and baccarat cheats in las vegas, instead of being satisfied with small consistent winnings, they got greedy and played too long in one casino and played for too high stakes.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/casino-cheaters-caught-011620
Title: Re: Baccarat Cheating Prosecuted in Singapore
Post by: AsymBacGuy on November 29, 2023, 02:50:20 AM
Exactly 8OR9!!!

Thanks for the link.

I start to think that in the Singapore case the cheat surpassed the supposedly "baccarat formula" power and related syndicate.
After all a method capable to overcome the odds in such a way should be sold at millions without risking the legal issues for many HS players would be interested to purchase it.

as.