GENTLEMEN.
Albalaha insist that labby and johnny..
will be suicidal when the very last 33.34% comes lately...and the marthy come playfully.


Albalaha is right in this view.
but that another topic.

Why Belgian..insist on betting labby..200spins.

because labby needs >33.34%win to close.
and worst known record ec 69red/200...well above the said 33.34%...and thus must close.
why 65?..because 65x3=195=33.33%.
the debacle are br..table limit...and miss marthy...
but it must close

Why JOHNSON  65...

64zeroes plus single digit 1?
because 200spins ec never less than 69..hit...
thus bet fearlessly knowing 65th hit MUST arrive before 201st spin...and close the johnny.

the only debacle are marthy at very last and br and table limit

Anything can win with unlimited bets. Martingale and labouchere will beat all sessions in the long run but they might need chips and table limit beyond the reach of a player. I evaluated and even got coded the HP johnson, it fails to win in many cases.

Thus..labby must win or close in ec 200spins...just because it never less than 69 per200spins or hands..33.34%theoritically...but the br and table limit unbearable..

but 100spins can't...because known.. only30%hits..

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and 50spins..even less.

But if you could fearlessly faithfully bet labby in 100spins...or 50spins...by knowing the virtual limit of such 100 or 50spins...
then br and table limit no problem...

May you please tell..what the ec 50spins..player hands..virtual limit?
then we could built special labby@johnson...around it

imagine this...

there 200 marbles in a box,

EC BET
69are red,
and others are black, bet the red only.
I take one out and cast aside.

How are you going to bet fearlessly?

How about 100marbles where 30are red?

How about 100 with 15red-that-pay-two unit,
black lose one unit..(dozen play)?

what kind of labby or johnny that you could take advantage of?

as everyone already know..
labby (start with single 1),will and must close,
with 33.34%hit,no matter how long.

HPJOHNSON reverse the labby.,
where you determined the hit needed to close.
Thus you could start from single digit,
which is that suicidal marthy...or up to thousand digit,
which you could bet single number...

why Belgian start with 65digit?

that's 64zero plus a 1.

about Albalaha's challenge,
zumma 15000,
  worst single number...
only hit 329/15k.

needs >428.6hit flatbet
45.6hitrate

theoritically,
Johnson could win with

428.6*33.34%=143hits.
that's 142zeros plus a 1

but since known =329.
it could win with 328zeros plus a1,
to win at least 1unit.

But..of course will balk and scoff
about the br and table limit to win 1u...
but then again...
how you expect to win 15k spins
with a few tens of chips?

@Wong,
          HP johnson is wrong type of labouchere. It tries to pre fix a win string that is a blunder. HP Johnson is nothing else but a mix of flat betting in the beginning, labouchere in the middle when all zeros filled up and at last a deadly martingale. If you see #3 case or the worst hit of 69/200, a simple labouchere will itself win a net profit.
                          My point is, labouchere is very powerful and underestimated progression. It has the capacity of concluding a session within 200 spins if we consider 69/200 the worst or a little ahead with limited chips.

Wong, can you point out the exact source of original 69/200 of the EC or upload the same excel here?

i can only access with handphone now..my laptop blown..thus funny writting.

i remember i sent you the link, few years ago, please look at your old email with me..search..(spin 37..to 237....worst 69red 1999 table 1 hamburg).


hp johnson is another type of marthy@labby.

it predetermined how many hit to close.
eg..
if 100 worst=30win..thus johnny30 must CLOSE @ or before 100th spin.

if 200spins must have at least 69..
thus johnny 69..must CLOSE..at or before 200th spin.
the obvious problem are br and limit..

thus if we have faith in virtual limit of SHORTER SPINS..
then br and table limit not problem.

100spins with only 30hit is quite interesting.
is it true worst ec record...only 10win/48losses?
i am computer unintelligent...thus need your help.

I found the worst 69/200 case of red. It has 33 reds in the first 100 spins.

thanks for you 69/200.
hp johnson has many flexible
way to bet and distribute losses.

since the worst is only69/200..
we could bet with 69x2=138digit.

that  137zero+..a single1.
where we crossout the
very first and the very last digit when a win hit...


[137..zero. <0000..to...0001>]
when lose at the very first bet..replace the second last digit with 1.
<000....0011>
second lose in a row...
000...011..

thus if you lose 137 time in a row
theoritically..
1111....111111 up to 138 digit
then the 139th bet you bet the first and the last=2u..
if lose...then
138 digit has
11111...1122
then you bet 3u...if lose...
spread the losses..
111...1122222.
you spread all the losses to your left...
thus when a win hit...you cross out
the very first and very last..
thus when 69win hit...all being crossout.

and as usual ..
MARTHY WILL KICK IN...
if the very last 69win come lately!

if we are very sure that will not see ..
only 30hit/100bet.
then we could use labbyjohnny with 30x2=60digit.
59zeros and a single 1.
with assurance that 30hit the least in next 100bet

Wong,
It is not regarding minimum number of hits but the way they hit that helps hp Johnson or makes that a bad joke. HP Johnson  could harass you even in 75/200 case. It seems you are not getting this. If the last few wins come a bit late, it would kill you. If you get a session where initial wins come late and later it showers wins, hp Johnson will do great. There are many progressions on the same premise. You can do one thing to understand it better. Play hp Johnson on  papers on my given horror sessions of worst 100s. As they are not worst 200 your favourite hp Johnson should handle all.

Sir,
it is true that the snowballing and marthy that make this a great joke...or else every casino closing shop.

imagine this
in a box..there 100marles..
.17 are red mable represent single-dozen.

why17?
17x2=34%...(>33.34%minimum)
I take one out and cast aside...

how you bet to win more than 1u?
hint..


that's..your own rules...

variance avoidance.
trigger after certain permutation.
pxxxxx manipulating

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even if there 15dz/100..waiting for 10unhit make them 30u/90bet...which is 33.33

that great joke and bad joke...by itself..
make a great winner.

people who knows...just zipped up...
people who doesn't..just scratching head