I am extremely curious as to why so many of the internet news stories load their pages 'horizontal' instead of the always 'vertical' way.  Used to be, all stories loaded and you just paged down to read and did not have to keep clicking to load another page repeatedly.  Now, lots are loading where it appears you kind of move sideways towards the right and you have to go page to page to page.  I generally see that now and just click off.  Yesterday there was a story I just had to read.  Took 24 pages/loads to read the little bit on each page of course.  I can only assume I was registered clicking on their page like 24 or 25 times??  What a pain in the rear!

The people that have monetized the internet have found a way to specifically target the advertising to the viewer. The more webpages that you travel to the more that the ads can be presented to you, gathered from your internet searches. The sideways loading of endless web based algorithms is the brainchild of non-gifted programmers following the monetized model expected from them by their development teams and IT supervisors. What they have failed to get so far is that these horizontal tactics are very annoying. They are slow to execute, and in many cases the stalling technique in the scriptable code embedded in each webpage is actually intentional. It's so that the external code from a different server has time to load so that you can see the annoying ad.


I know this because I invented my own internet language called MTML, Meaningful Text Markup Language. I was one of a very small group of people interested in the concept of a Human Markup Language. I took XML and broke the rules of well formed and executable documents based on the SGML protocol. On my own I built a cross platform internet browser that had revolutionary capabilities built into it. The browser and each web page was interactive without the need for sever side executable capabilities. The browser was capable of gathering similar information from websites and adding it to your own original web site in a way that you or any user could grow relational information from hundreds of topically related websites in the same MTML format. The browser was the WYSIWYG. The browser let you take notes. It lest you record messages for each page in your multi paged website. A user could download the entire website in one file. The user could then surf the internet to add more relative information and add it to their existing file on the same topic. The browser allowed creative people to build topical constructs based on key words and phrases that best fit the topic at hand. These constructs would become the bases for a human readable facilitation of the Human Markup Language. The websites also include the images as part of the markup language and the single file being presented. I built it so that no executable scripting language could be used to sabotage the loading process. No Hijacking or viruses where possible. I never found a way to monetize it. I've be en sitting on it for more than 12 years. It puts an end to this sideways internet. I was considering making it run on all operating systems and mobile systems as an open source project. But I know the first thing that would happen is that it would get clobbered and made to go sideways.


Imagine downloading a single file that has human readable indexing, all the linkage to the internet, if you wanted it to, and would run off line if you wanted to. It would allow you to surf the website and load pages from the site in less than a single second. As an example you could take everything I have written here and place it into a topical reference of retrievable ideas, indexed to gather all instances of a topic or idea and give yourself the exact context that the writer had intended. You could deliver a local magazine as a single file. It could be a sales catalog. It could be a law book with human readability indexing based on a legal construct language. It could be a medical reference. Think of it as a PDF file that surfs the internet without leaving the file. You can add to each open file and save what you have added to it on your own computer. The only thing missing now is a version that works on mobiles, laptops, and several e-book readers. It can't get a virus. It will only read text. The markup language is text and so are the images. There are no commands to read executable scripts. It's one way to take back the internet.


I need help in order to continue work on it. I got this far all alone on it. It needs a team and backing. Imagine inventing the PDF. People use it all over the world. I wonder what would happen with a KickStart campaign?

So darn annoying!  I will NOT read anything like those any longer, perhaps something really super interesting or something I have to, but out of 100 things I would have opened, probably will not 90-95 from now on.

In fact, I asked the other 6 people here.  4 are younger and internet tech hounds and 2 about my age, half way done with life, LOL.  The 2 my age say they hate it and turns them off.  The other 4, 3 say they cannot stand it and about the same as me, only if they absolutely have to read something and the other one has no problem with it.  But he is a slow poke and takes an hour do drink a cup of coffee anyway. LOL...

I said, I would generally just skip them from a while back on.  Well today there was a Yahoo News Story and I was really interested in it.  I clicked on it and it turned out to be one of those that you read a short paragraph and then click next and boom---horizontal loading.  I went through like 10 -15 pages or so and each one take a bit to load for the 90% ads vs. less than 10% of the page for the continuing story, etc.  Never got to the info I wanted, scratched it, what a royal pain.  Seriously.

Wonder what Simi Valley late teen came up with that one, while drinking his Red Bull and eating gummy worms or something.

You and me came up with it. They think we like seeing their ads. It's like the difference between AMC movies and Turner Classic movies. AMC was ad free at the beginning. Now they suck you in with 20 minutes before the first ad, then 15 minutes, then 10 minutes. By the end of the movie the ads are about 5 to 6 minutes for 4 to 5 minutes of movie. It's the bean counters.


It's the same with the Russians hacked the election. The people that consume the main stream media actually think that the Russians made John Podesta say terrible things about her before the election. It's amazing what people will just accept as normal. Commercials bring us all together in a harmonic buying cultural experience. The internet needs to change.

Quote from: Gizmotron on March 10, 2017, 07:31:41 PM
You and me came up with it. They think we like seeing their ads. It's like the difference between AMC movies and Turner Classic movies. AMC was ad free at the beginning. Now they suck you in with 20 minutes before the first ad, then 15 minutes, then 10 minutes. By the end of the movie the ads are about 5 to 6 minutes for 4 to 5 minutes of movie. It's the bean counters.


It's the same with the Russians hacked the election. The people that consume the main stream media actually think that the Russians made John Podesta say terrible things about her before the election. It's amazing what people will just accept as normal. Commercials bring us all together in a harmonic buying cultural experience. The internet needs to change.

Exactly!  You are spot on!

I am a consumer and I spend money on the I-net.  I am in a kind of rural part of the Midwest.  I have 3 kids 250 miles away always asking for something and I can't always be there.  I work long hours and spend time 90-100 away from here at a couple of casinos.  Sure shopping at Wal Mart, Supermarket stores or the Walgreens or CVS, etc., is not difficult.  But I do buy plenty on the internet for various reasons, attraction-savings-convenience-necessity, etc. 

I will not tolerate those blasted time wasting loading pages.  Will not, cannot and do not.  The ads that caused them to that are not getting it from me.  Not directly or indirectly.  Have no idea how many more like me or not like me out there in their way of thinking. 

I do a lot on the internet most days, my business and personal life is on there of course.  So to be slowed down to read something I do not have to read, is not going to happen.  Like a store that puts up a diversion in their parking lot to make you see something no one really wants just in order to park.  I would not go even if I wanted their store goods.  You tell me I have to do something, chances are, I will not do it.