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Offline greenguy

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DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
« on: July 12, 2017, 01:30:01 PM »
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  • Sorry if I'm off topic by posting this..

    I actually spent several weeks in Yelm on the RSE ranch in it's inaugural year of 1989, so I have been up close and personal with JZ Knight. I remember they called our retreat, The Gathering of Saints. I remember she had an awesome English Bulldog named, Sergeant.

    Considering all the intensity of what was going on at the time, I must admit, it's really strange that I remember her dog and it's name after all these years.  I think because I thought he was the most noble soul in the place..

    I believe I was the first, and possibly the only manufacturer of portable Pyramids for use as meditative devises attuned to the teachings. They were designed as a capstone, with telescopic side supports for variable height settings.

    The Pyramid capstone height setting was important to the teachings as the head or brain of the modern day Essene was best placed in the King's Chamber area of the Pyramid (2/3rds up) throughout meditation for optimum effect.

    My Pyramids were precisely mathematically modelled on the Great Pyramid Of Giza.

    I know the Ramtha teachings well and I know the focus required for prediction.

    I also know that with the acquired skill, there are far more beneficial uses for enhanced consciousness than gambling or winning money.







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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #1 on: July 12, 2017, 03:47:11 PM »
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  • If someone wants to be long term winner he/she has to act like the casino.
    The casino doesn't attempting to predict but profits when predictions fail.
    It's much more easier to gain from what is not going to happen rather than trying to predict what will happen.
    Although simpler but less profitable for the individual bankroll, even with an edge of 2.7% you wouldn't become rich because casino profits are leveraged by the multiple accumulated bankrolls at risk any given time.
    In short, there is big difference between 2.7% of 1,000 and 2.7% of 1,000,000...
    However, if you find it attractive idea then try winning by predicting which very few numbers are not going to show any time soon rather than the opposite.

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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #2 on: July 12, 2017, 04:47:11 PM »
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  • are you talking about using visual ballistics to decide which number sector is not going to come out?  This possibility crossed my mind as the only visual ballistics for someone not seasoned like me.  by discarding a small area of two numbers you could have one viable system based on physics.  interesting possibility.

    However, if you find it attractive idea then try winning by predicting which very few numbers are not going to show any time soon rather than the opposite.
    say things directly to show respect for other people's time. Walter.

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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #3 on: July 12, 2017, 05:33:11 PM »
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  • are you talking about using visual ballistics to decide which number sector is not going to come out?  This possibility crossed my mind as the only visual ballistics for someone not seasoned like me.  by discarding a small area of two numbers you could have one viable system based on physics.  interesting possibility.


    No, I was not referring to VB specifically, find ANY method which its prediction is as ineffective as possible, or at least worse than average, and reverse it to your advantage.
    Win by not trying to predict, the beauty of it is to see the positive within the negative.
    If for example I lay 2 numbers and lose per 50 spins on average then I'd gain 15 units net per 50 bets on average, not a 'killer' but could turn out to pretty consistent one.
    Methods could be from software, statistics, hunches, physics...you name it!
    Just pick the most persistent loser and reverse it.
    We know that few numbers are long term sleepers, despite that this is 100% true for every time, we don't know which are going to be those numbers.
    But a number before goes missing for 150 spins, it will be absent for 50 spins, so we pick such number and the reasoning is that it's already sleeping for 50 spins, why not for 1 more??
    Of course numbers wake up eventually but timing is a strange thing, when you categorize all numbers by their hits and how long are be absent since their last appearance you witness the connection of them...
    Top layer connects with the bottom and the second from the top, second layer connects with the top and the third, the third connects with the second and the fourth, the fourth connects with the third and the fifth...and so on.
    In other words each layer/category of numbers is being effectively connected with their two bordering layers, when one number is hit then that group/layer as well as its two bordering layers are being activated.
    Most of the times the focus stays at one layer/group for up to 2 consecutive times, then moves to the bordering layers.
    Of course there are exceptions but why worrying about the minorities?
    If you compare the positions of each group on the wheel layout you'd notice that the numbers of the same layer/group don't fall close as wheel neighbors, but neighbors contain nūmbers from different layers/groups...

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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #4 on: July 12, 2017, 11:33:46 PM »
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  • [Cut'n'pasted from the Brainstorming thread]

    Quote from: Albalaha on Today at 08:50:15 am

        Honestly speaking, I do not find any of the voodoo ideas working on a perfectly random(read unpredictible) game with built in house edge. No betselection will provide any conclusive edge or reduce the burden of house edge unless it is about physical bias in the wheel. Only way to go is to make a sensible plan that can sustain even the worst cases and win in a near average case in the long run. Oldschool money managements are all plain foolish and they force us lose what we can't get back later.


    TheMagician's Reply:

    Perhaps one could perceive much of what Esoito posted here as Voodoo ideas and then perhaps not. It's a matter of perspective (right view) of what exactly signifies Chaos and that sphere of continuous probability from where we come to perceive phenomena in a specific set we choose to call order, or, randomness (very unprecise word for what really signifies the subatomic layer of this universe where all waveforms are created).

    Let me ask you this, your comment to this thread, do you believe it was a collected act of sheer random actions, or do you believe it was an act of a predetermined will and order that resulted in an equally orderly response (controlled creation and appearance)?

    ...ah..ah..ah..careful now..think before you respond, or is even the creation and sensed order of thoughts, random in themselves? ;)


    Yes, well worded, Thomas. 

    Anyone who regards the thread and its contents simply as as "voodoo ideas" is missing the point, and seriously lacking in the imagination/creativity skills.

    For them the world is all tip and no iceberg. It's black and white. If you can't see it or measure it, touch it or taste it, then it doesn't exist.

    Finally, I've already CLEARLY stated, Albalaha, that in the Brainstorming Thread itself:

    * There is NO BAD IDEA.

    * There will be no "right" or "wrong" ideas.

    * ALL judgements and disbelief are to be suspended.

    ...and that it is NOT the place for discussion.


    You were supposed to start up another thread if you wanted to discuss the contents. But you chose not to, Albalaha.

    So this thread is now the place for discussion.





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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #5 on: July 13, 2017, 12:31:49 AM »
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  • RSW PDF

    In the Number Prediction post I made available a PDF for download.

    I mentioned that I'd tweaked and experimented with the formulas and settings.

    I've written an experimental program. It  generates a predicted number based on the last 4 spins and continues to do this for the next few spins.

    Betting commences once there are 4 predictions listed.

    Now don't get too excited -- one swallow doesn't make a summer as the saying goes.  But it is surprisingly accurate from time to time, as you can see from the attached image.

    After entering 9 spins, 4 predicted numbers have been generated for betting: 26  6  3  and  4

     [By the way, for testing I'm using  15k live spins -- NOT RNG --  collected by auto-software from Dublin Bet.]

    The highlighted numbers show the outcome for the next 3 spins.

    That was an exceptionally quick and successful outcome.

    However, I'm finding one of the 4 predictions usually arrives within a dozen spins the most.

    If it consistently delivers a winner within less than  9 spins [what you'd expect from chance betting 4 inside numbers out of 37] then a bit of excitement might be justified.

    Meanwhile, testing continues, and I won't rushing to sell everything and dump the proceeds on the next set of predictions!






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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #6 on: July 13, 2017, 07:38:33 AM »
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  • esoito,

    In the BRAINSTORMING thread you wrote the following:

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    Everything is energy vibrating at different frequencies.

    Quantum entanglement and number flows is a rich seam for exploration.

    Number vibrations is a field already successfully exploited after years of hard work by a forum member and his team of testers.

    As regards quantum entanglement, I don't see how it can have any relevance to playing roulette because these quantum effects work on the subatomic scale, not in the realm of everyday objects such as roulette wheels (classical physics is the appropriate paradigm there). While it's true that there is some macroscopic quantum phenomena, such as superfluidity and superconduction, these are highly specialized applications. Here's an article which seems to contradict this, and it even includes a reference to roulette. However, in spite of the attention grabbing headline, there are no quantum casinos:

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    "In the classical world, chance outcomes have no strange correlationsthe events at one roulette wheel in a casino have no effect on events at the other tables," says physicist Luming Duan from the University of Michigan, in a separate article in Science. But "in a quantum casino, we could imagine that roulette wheels are entangled, so that if one ball dropped on a black number, the ball at the next table must drop on red."

    So with quantum entanglement, roulette outcomes are no longer independent! This would be a roulette player's dream, but quantum effects don't apply at this level.

    Secondly, regarding number vibrations, is this a reference to numerology? If so, there appears to be no evidence that it works.  The following quotes are taken from the Wikipedia article on Numerology.

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    Lack of evidence

    Skeptics argue that numbers have no occult significance and cannot by themselves influence a person's life. Skeptics therefore regard numerology as a superstition and a pseudoscience that uses numbers to give the subject a veneer of scientific authority.[2]

    Two studies have been done investigating numerological claims, both producing negative results, one in the UK in 1993,[10] and one in 2012 in Israel. The experiment in Israel involved a professional numerologist and 200 participants. The experiment was repeated twice and still produced negative results.[11]

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    Attempts by gamblers to see patterns in random chance

    Some players apply methods that are sometimes called numerological in games which involve numbers but no skill, such as bingo, roulette, keno, or lotteries. Although no strategy can be applied to increase odds in such games, players may employ "lucky numbers" to find what they think will help them. There is no evidence that any such "numerological strategy" yields a better outcome than pure chance, but the methods are sometimes encouraged, e.g. by casino owners.[17]

    I'm not against "brainstorming" per se, and apparently wacky ideas can lead to genuinely useful insights, but there has to be some filtering process before implementing them, don't you agree? Otherwise we are wasting time which could be more profitably spent elsewhere.

    Changing the subject, in your previous reply in this thread (#5) you mention the Number Prediction post; could you (or anyone) provide a link to this please? I can't find it.

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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #7 on: July 13, 2017, 08:17:27 AM »
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  • Thank you for your interesting contributions, Mike.

    We have nearly 2000 members on this forum but, sadly, few of them can be bothered to discuss and debate.

    I set up the brainstorming thread in the hopes that it would not only stimulate lively debate amongst regular posters, but also prod a few of the silent majority out of silence and non-involvement.  I'm sure many of them  interesting things to write and share....I just wish they would.

    Anyway, now for a response to your question "...regarding number vibrations, is this a reference to numerology?"

    No. It's not.

    I'm hoping TheMagician [Thomas] might soon enter the discussion in response to that specific question.

    Until, and if, he does, please read and ponder what he writes in this thread:  https://betselection.cc/roulette-forum/is-there-a-superior-bm-casino-roulette-system-that-can-beat-the-wheel/

    For over a year I have kept abreast of extraordinary advances he has made in his project that has been at least a decade in development.  He's being very ably assisted by a dedicated group of his 'test pilots' who help with testing and development of his revolutionary approach, in an invitation-only environment.

    Mike, I wish I could say more about all that but I can't,  because I've entered into a confidentiality agreement. Sorry.  Not being evasive. It's a fact.

    And I will never break that agreement and betray his trust in me.

    More details are best left to TheMagician -- that is if he chooses to provide more information in an open, semi-public forum.

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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #8 on: July 13, 2017, 08:34:14 AM »
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  • Changing the subject, in your previous reply in this thread (#5) you mention the Number Prediction post; could you (or anyone) provide a link to this please? I can't find it.

    Certainly. You'll find the PDF is available for download in the Number Prediction post in the Brainstorming thread.

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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #9 on: July 13, 2017, 10:41:12 AM »
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  • Thanks esoito. Good luck with your testing of the RSW system. I have to say that  I might be a little less sceptical if there weren't several links to online casinos at the end of the document.  ;)

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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #10 on: July 13, 2017, 03:59:57 PM »
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  • Thanks esoito. Good luck with your testing of the RSW system. I have to say that  I might be a little less sceptical if there weren't several links to online casinos at the end of the document.  ;)

    Are you implying that Max acting as affiliate of online casinos?

    If Max fails to reply this, it would mean that he silently confirms it.

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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #11 on: July 13, 2017, 06:16:30 PM »
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  • esoito isn't the author of the RSW system, so no, I'm not implying he's an affiliate of those casinos mentioned in the PDF.

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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #12 on: July 13, 2017, 06:25:11 PM »
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  • Just to say that ramtha = sect .
    Rien de plus normal, tout est trange .

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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #13 on: July 13, 2017, 06:26:42 PM »
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  • Just to say that ramtha = sect .

    What's the meaning of this?

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    Re: DISCUSSION ABOUT BRAINSTORMING THREAD
    « Reply #14 on: July 13, 2017, 08:35:51 PM »
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  • If someone wants to be long term winner he/she has to act like the casino.
    The casino doesn't attempting to predict but profits when predictions fail.
    It's much more easier to gain from what is not going to happen rather than trying to predict what will happen.

    Pure gold. No jokes.

    as.
    Winners are simply willing to do what losers won't