Chris

I'm only concerned with the splits, not numbers.  Why does it happen?  I've come to the conclusion that is the wrong question to be asking.  It does happen and we'll never know why.  Just like red will "try" to even out with black.

I could ask Nick to program the Excel sheet to do exactly as I want and I may later on.  I want to hand test it a few hundred spins and see what shakes out.

As I said, I could post screen shots but they're meaningless.

Sam

Quote from: TwoCatSam on March 18, 2013, 09:33:12 PM
Why does it happen?

Due to the Chaotic nature of the game:



http://betselection.cc/gambling-philosophy/is-the-trend-really-your-friend/msg10979/#msg10979


...within your studied sample

Quote from: TwoCatSam on March 17, 2013, 10:00:29 PM
OK

Probably shouldn't post this, but, what the heck?

As some of you know, I run the Excel Bot by Stef and Nice using the L v F system invented by FLATman.  I have run it thousand upon thousands of spins.  I've sit and watched it for hours upon hours.  One thing emerges.

The "Furthest" have a far higher hit rate that the "Lasts".  It is quite rare to see four Ls in a row and very common to see four Fs in a row.  Many Ls do not win the first time out and if they do, they "seem" to fail on the repeat try more than 50/50.  The Fs, on the other hand, hit quite often on the first and second try.  While looking at literally hundreds of Excel sheets, I can say the Fs definitely hit more than the Ls.  I could post a hundred screen shots, but that would only prove I found a hundred screen shots which support my position.

NOW........................................

Have I done a million spin study on this?  Nope!  It's just one of those things you see, confirmation bias notwithstanding.  Do I plan to play money on it?  Yep!  I do, and I will report.

What does this mean??  If it's true, and I believe it is, it would mean that older splits hit more frequently than newer splits.

This may only be on BVNZ, as that's the only place I play.

Sam

yes,as long as it does so/regardless of lasts or furthests/in cycle betting of 9 spins
it comes as a great advantage.....over the weekend we are attacking Malta with this bet,
table switching.

Quote from: Chrisbis on March 18, 2013, 08:28:18 AM
Good luck Sam on the transition from fun test to real money play.
One thing this system should show up (during long interval) is whether BV employs 'system/method reading programs and therefore begins to alter the long term spins you receive.
(Sha -256 not withstanding)
.
Aso on this.......are there not other trigger conditions for Last/Furthest that have to considered .....like each dozen must have a split in it and each column must have been hit to qualify as either Last or Furthest ?

that is a different bet Crisby boy,nothing to do with LvF 9 splits.....RvR

Sam and others,
I have registered more then 300 Wiesbaden sessions,played live in Wien,Wiesbaden,my local
casino and on almost daily basis few hours Airball morning sessions.
In other words,have results from several casinos which amounts with more then 130000
spins,nicely sorted as last and furthest........the difference is 37 spins in favour of furthests.
Curiosity;one session had 28 furthest in the row....circling around, lasts becoming furthests.
I play this my way/most here are against such play,I know/and Sam is addopting safer way,
everyone to his own/way and pocket/...Sometime mid of the next week you will get the true
lose/win,reports from Malta trip.

@ Flat-In-O


I know now...............I just found your excel sheets with the example shown.
[reveal]http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=11283.msg99224#msg99224[/reveal]
I'm still non the wiser for a concise, clear explanation as to how this bet system really works. 


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I'd love it if someone could post up a line by line (id1ot proof) explanation of how to run this baby.
In bullet point style too!


[revealB]too much to ask I guess![/revealB]

In the beginning you find nine splits that have hit once each.  A double hit is not counted.  The first split is the 1/4  the second is the 2/5 the third is the 3/6........those are splits 1,2 and 3 respectively.

The fourth split is 7/10.  You do that until the board is complete.  I can send a copy of my "Redneck Tracker" but it is long and must be in two shots.

There are 18 splits.

Here is an example of 9 newest:

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9..........That would be in perfect order.

Now a repeater:

1
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9


That is all for now.

Sam

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9........after 9 splits appears/some will be repeaters/start bet on it......hit-continue same,miss-start betting
          on furthers 9 splits.........split 1 goes to furtherst,split that just hit as a furthest goes to last 9 splits.
          In other words,last spin always goes to last 9 splits,so for instance when betting furthest 9 splits
          and you get a repeater it is a los as previous split went to last 9 splits.Simple.
         just seen that 2CS is doing it waiting for 9 unique splits at the start....me doing it differently,
         as can't recall me saying that when introducing this bet....but as said each to his own.

FLAT  IN O

You got a PM. re 9th spin .
     

N.D.

Great thread!


Flatino could you please provide a link to the 9 split system you are using?


How many different casinos do you visit per year and how many sessions do you think you play per year?


Are the tables busy on Malta Flat?

@ The Gentlemen in the Winter of his Most interesting life!

Quote from:  F Lat-In-O
In other words,last spin always goes to last 9 splits,so for instance when betting furthest 9 splits
and you get a repeater it is a loss as previous split went to last 9 splits. Simple.

That's easy for you to say!

Chris

Here's the tracker.  Put in numbers and see what it does.

Sam

Thanx Sam........ 


Edit.
Just tried a game (Fun Money)
tell me what I do on the next bet please ?
Number 18 is a loss.
[revealB] I can't get the spread sheet to work on this PC[/revealB]

9 goes to last 9 splits.....7/furter in last 9 splits/ goes to further 9 splits.....and now you bet furter 9 splits

Quote from: FLAT_IN_O
9 goes to last 9 splits.....7/furter in last 9 splits/ goes to further 9 splits.....and now you bet furter 9 splits

Im sorry Ivica, but in my head that does not make logical sense at all.......