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Offline Blue_Angel

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Hello all!  8)


Lately I was thinking about probability in general and I'd like to share these thoughts with you, perhaps we could reach an understanding, a consensus if we really try.


So here is my first question:
1) If we would record 100 results per time, wouldn't be more probable to witness an unequal distribution (at any degree above even) among equal chance options?


I don't have to test it, I know it is true and not not only is true but also is valid every time for everything.


2) Realizing the answer regarding the first question then the next reasonable question is; how such fact could be exploited, how can we make use of such information?


Thus we are certain for something, anything will be ahead, will lead but we don't know which and when.
When some options are under-performing it is because their counterparts are over-performing, you cannot have one without the other, period.


3) How could we know which and when?


I'm going to reply this by the following wise quote: "A journey of 1,000 miles begins with a single step..."
Recall in retrospective a snapshot of 37 results, we could say: "Oh, number 35 came 4 times, if I was betting that number..."
How could we knew, what criteria would make us select the specific bet option?
Any bet selection before it grows exponentially begins with 1 single appearance.


Can you argue with these facts so far?


Regardless of what that selection may be, there are always leaders and followers, the real question is: "Do we want to be with the leader?"
Starting by the ECs all the way down to numbers is a long way for something, anything to take the lead.
Each and every bet option has its own betting cycle, when a leader cannot lead any more we are replacing it with another, but no matter which there is always a leader.
We have to extend our event's horizon in order to be able to accommodate minor fluctuations during our march towards the goal.
We need a total of results which could be easily divided in cycles for each and every bet option, for example 72, it's:
36 cycles for ECs
24 cycles for dozens and columns
12 cycles for lines
8 cycles for quads
6 cycles for streets
4 cycles for splits
2 cycles for numbers
All of them are happening simultaneously and are using the universal currency of time, we only adjust our position when we have to and only as much as needed.
A leader could extend its lead or let its followers to catch up, even when numbers proceed hand by hand some other bet options are not progressing so harmoniously, what is happening for 1 number is not the same for more numbers as a group...

''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal


Offline Blue_Angel

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I'm going to give you an example of how you could exploit the tendencies of the game, or should I say the facts (?).

First we have to understand the relationship between the cycles, their respective odds and payouts.
For a total game to be completed with a net profit could take up to 72 bets, every betting level in regards with the smallest denominator:

36 cycles for ECs to 2 cycles for numbers = 36 / 2 = 18 to 1
24 cycles for dozens and columns to 2 cycles for numbers = 24 / 2 = 12 to 1
12 cycles for lines to 2 cycles for numbers = 12 / 2 = 6 to 1
8 cycles for quads to 2 cycles for numbers = 8 / 2 = 4 to 1
6 cycles for streets to 2 cycles for numbers = 6 / 2 = 3 to 1
4 cycles for splits to 2 cycles for numbers = 4 / 2 = 2 to 1
2 cycles for numbers to 2 cycles for numbers = 2 / 2 = 1 to 1

Beginning from ECs and proceeding to dozens and columns is a reduction of 33.33% of coverage (6 numbers less) and 100% increase of payout (x2 instead of x1), the payout raise is overwhelming the reduced coverage, thus an overall progress.
Any EC pair is qualified as long as the last 2 results (EC cycle) went 1 way, in such case we would bet what came twice in a row for 2 more times.
There are 3 possible results, winning 2, losing 2 and winning/losing 1 bet, in case we got only 1 correct then we are looking for another twice in a row EC before we bet again.
In case we won 2 out of 2 we continue for 2 more bets on the same EC and so on.
When we lose 2 times we proceed to dozens/columns bets.

From dozen/column to line is 50% reduction in coverage (6 numbers less)  but the 250% raised payout (x5 instead of x2) compensates sufficiently.
Each dozens/columns cycle is 3 spins long in which we select the one with 2 or 3 hits, no less, otherwise wait for such occurrence till it happens.
There are 3 possible results, winning 2 or 3 out of 3 bets would signal the retreat to ECs.
Losing 2 and winning 1 bet would make us wait for another dozen or column to qualify before bet again.
In case we lose all 3 bets we would proceed to lines.

From lines to quads is 33.33% decreased coverage (2 numbers less) and 60% raise of payout (x8 instead of x5).
There are 3 possible results, winning 2 or more out of 6 bets would make us return to dozens/columns betting.
Losing 5 and winning 1 bet would make us wait for another line to qualify (first with 2 hits within 6 spins) before we bet again.
In case we lose all 6 bets we would proceed to quads.

From quads to streets is 25% decreased coverage (1 number less) and 37.5% raise of payout (x11 instead of x8).
There are 3 possible results, winning 2 or more out of 9 bets would make us return to lines betting.
Losing 8 and winning 1 bet would make us wait for another quad to qualify (first with 2 hits within 9 spins) before we bet again.
In case we lose all 9 bets we would proceed to streets.

From quads to streets is 25% decreased coverage (1 number less) and 37.5% raise of payout (x11 instead of x8).
There are 3 possible results, winning 2 or more out of 9 bets would make us return to lines betting.
Losing 8 and winning 1 bet would make us wait for another quad to qualify (first with 2 hits within 9 spins) before we bet again.
In case we lose all 9 bets we would proceed to streets.

From streets to splits is 33.33% decreased coverage (1 number less) and 54.54% raise of payout (x17 instead of x11).
There are 3 possible results, winning 2 or more out of 12 bets would make us return to quads betting.
Losing 11 and winning 1 bet would make us wait for another street to qualify (first with 2 hits within 12 spins) before we bet again.
In case we lose all 12 bets we would proceed to splits.

From splits to numbers is 50% decreased coverage (1 number less) and 105.88% raise of payout (x35 instead of x17).
There are 3 possible results, winning 2 or more out of 18 bets would make us return to streets betting.
Losing 17 and winning 1 bet would make us wait for another split to qualify (first with 2 hits within 18 spins) before we bet again.
In case we lose all 18 bets we would proceed to numbers.

We are looking for the first number which hits twice within 36 spins, we select it for 36 bets more.
There are 3 possible results, winning 2 or more out of 36 bets would make us return to splits betting.
Losing 35 and winning 1 bet would make us wait for another number to qualify (first with 2 hits within 36 spins) before we bet again.
In case we lose all 36 bets we would proceed to the 2nd round.
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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The 2nd round has the same qualification criteria and the same process as the 1st, but with one difference, the units will be increased progressively according the bet level we currently are.

ECs } 2 units per bet, coverage remains the same as on the 1st round/ 1st level, however the units increased by 100%

1 Dozen + Column } 3 + 3 units for total bet of 6, coverage increased to 20 numbers from 12 (66.66%) in comparison with 1st round/ 2nd level, the units increased by 600% (1 to 6)

2 overlapping lines } 4 + 4 units for total bet of 8, coverage increased to 9 numbers from 6 (50%) in comparison with 1st round/ 3rd level, the units increased by 800% (1 to 8 )

2 overlapping quads } 5 + 5 units for total bet of 10, coverage increased to 7 numbers from 4 (75%) in comparison with 1st round/ 4th level, the units increased by 1000% (1 to 10)

2 streets } 6 + 6 units for total bet of 12, coverage increased to 6 numbers from 3 (100%) in comparison with 1st round/ 5th level, the units increased by 1200% (1 to 12)

1 vertical +1 horizontal splits (conjoining) } 7 + 7 units for total bet of 14, coverage increased to 3 numbers from 2 (50%) in comparison with 1st round/ 6th level, the units increased by 1400% (1 to 14)

2 numbers } 8 + 8 units for total bet of 16, coverage increased to 2 numbers from 1 (100%) in comparison with 1st round/ 7th level, the units increased by 1600% (1 to 16)


All of the selections has to be above average (2+ hits within their respective cycles).

When a new all time high BR has been achieved, at any point, revert back to 1st round / 1st level.

By losing a level we proceed to the next, by winning on any level we return to the previous, by having only 1 win we remain on same level.

Every level has to be played for its full duration of spins, the only exception to this rule is by achieving new BR high.


''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal