this for Kimo Li's enthusiastic only.
Those who prejudiced,
please don't read, don't comment.

I do a simple RED low, Black high list,
and you may see....
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quote.

The only correlation between the European wheel and the layout is that the high red numbers and low black numbers are on one side of the wheel and the low red numbers and high black numbers are one the other side of the wheel.

So if you look at the layout and you see 32 red come in and on the next spin 8 black comes in, I know that the ball is favoring one side of the wheel. A player can use that as an advantage by playing four different groups, A and B LH strategy. Four quads of nine numbers, high reds, low blacks, high blacks and low reds, skip and run tracking applicable.
KIMO LI.
unquote

Friend, thanks for posting. how good Kimo Li is still being studied. students often make the teacher think.

 I wounder if you could take advantage of some kind of signature this way - thanks for mention this.

Thanks Wannawin,  Sputnik,
for your views.
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The problem is,
in any bet selection,
that available for research...
if we test by betting FLATBET...

EVERY bet selection,tested,

the very BEST,
will hit the negative HE,
MATH EXPECTATION!
or close to ,
BREAKEVEN.

Some in shorter spins,
say 100bets taken,

others may swing high,
far and low...
to thousands spins...
before,
close to ,
BREAKEVEN.


and the bad,
to worst,
will diverge wide...

Thus ,
IMHO,
The very STABLE selection,
which,
inevitably alway "CLUSTER",
and,
together, with,
the H&R strategy,
where you win more than losses,
is the answer, to win constantly...

How,
by betting the probability,
of short run,
where,
the winning season higher than loser.
and most importantly,
having a LOSE target,
where you cut loss,

and stop, for the season,

and also stop,
when you reach win target.

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How we bet the STABLE selection,
which must CLUSTER?

By avoiding VARIANCE,
wait for Y losses,
or ,
"Y-losses, with few, z wins, in between",

and risked,
to bet x spins,
when a win hit.
with mild progression.
till target losses, or target profit.

Hello ...

John Patrick has a HEDGE BET - if i remember correct one unit on Low and one unit on Black.
Then you cover 27 Numbers and lose if the 9 Red High Numbers Hit.

I have not solve the selection criteria using this kind of bet or staking plan.
But i am higly intressted in this kind of betting methodology.

Maybe other combination could work

Cheers

Wong,
You keep talking about mild progressions in your various H G report threads. Can you give an example of what is, in your estimation, a mild progression for the following two cases:

1. Even chance bets.
2. Double dozen bets.

Hi DoctorSudoku,

IMHO,
Firstly,
We must have a,
very stable betselection,

ie.

OVERSIMPLIFIED EXAMPLE.
---------------------
for single dozen,
say,
we have 30% hit.
[there no set in stone,
for hit percentages,
but AROUND  a certain %.]
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Thus , they will ,
close to breakeven,
at certain X spins.


If they,
near-breakeven 30%,
at,

100bet attempts,

breakeven=
100x33%=33hit/100.attempts


that will be around -3hit deficit.

if,
200spins bet-attempt.

then ,
200x33%=66hit/200.
then deficit=-6hit.
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if the stable,
produce near breakeven 30%,

at 300bet attempt.

then 300x33%=99hit/300

then 300x30%=90hit/300.
deficit of -9hit.
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thus we must apply VARIANCE avoidance.

for 100bet at 30%,
we wait for at least 3losses streak, before we start to bet, as we already confident that our stable selection, will hit AROUND 30hit/100,
thus after more than 3losses, we hope, that
they will 30hit/97 spins attempt.

We bet 1u, to halfway,
if still can't win at least 1u,
then we bet 2u, hoping the cluster of win, hit at the 2nd half.

Now you see, this is like the GR8 progression.

=========
if stable 30% at 200spins attempt,
then 33%=66hit,
and 30%=60hit,
thus -6hit deficit.
thus we wait for streaks of more than 6losses.

thus 60hit/next 194spins.
=====================
for 300spins
33%=99hit.
30%=90=-9hit deficit.

thus wait for more than 9losses,
to start.
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go to GLC threads,
he the KING of progressions,
and learn many good mild progressions.

Wong,
I asked you to provide a couple of examples of mild progressions, since you are talking about them all the time.

You evaded my request and instead asked me to look at GLC's progressions.

I am very familiar with them. Nearly all of GLC's progressions are brutally effective bankroll killers.

Dear DrSudoku,
with respect,

A stable selection, is the PRIORITY,
then, a variance avoidance,
then any simple progression, will do.

Even the best progression, can't win, if extreme variance hit.

A simple GR8, could win,
if you have a stable selection,
since, it will close to breakeven,
after a long spin...say 100attempts.

ie. single dozen bet.
if there 70lose vs 30 hit, in any permutation,
how to win, 1u?
with variance avoidance?

the 70losses vs 30win,
just an oversimplified example of a stable selection.
everyone here could see,
a 10losses, avoidance,
could win, even flat.

Sputnik


Reread  John  Patrick`s  betting Black and Low in  competition with each other by applying the 2-1-2 regression Up and Pull system.

That`s the way I am betting  those 2 EC.  ( Both wheels 0 or 0/00)



For Dozens on the Single 0 wheel  It`s the First and Third dozen.

Quote from: NathanDetroit on October 12, 2016, 07:17:57 PM
Sputnik


Reread  John  Patrick`s  betting Black and Low in  competition with each other by applying the 2-1-2 regression Up and Pull system.

That`s the way I am betting  those 2 EC.  ( Both wheels 0 or 0/00)



For Dozens on the Single 0 wheel  It`s the First and Third dozen.(according to Beat the wheel first post. Example 32 and 8 )

Hi ND,
Thanks for your views.

When we bet 1u, on B, and 1u on LOW,
Then, it a battle of 9blacklow vs 9 redhigh....
with EC payout.

We can't predict future,
thus if the wheel,
WELL BALANCE, OR BIASED,

then, I think,
we do a pinwheel4,
to see , how they behaved, and bet accordingly.

Quote from: NathanDetroit on October 12, 2016, 07:17:57 PM
Sputnik


Reread  John  Patrick`s  betting Black and Low in  competition with each other by applying the 2-1-2 regression Up and Pull system.

That`s the way I am betting  those 2 EC.  ( Both wheels 0 or 0/00)



For Dozens on the Single 0 wheel  It`s the First and Third dozen.

Hello ND ...
What page or pages or chapter in JP book?

Thanks

Quote from: Sputnik on October 14, 2016, 02:39:51 PM
Hello ND ...
What page or pages or chapter in JP book?

Thanks

Up and Plull Chapter 23 page  169>

Betting series Chapter 24 psge 172 >


You miust observe ALL of the given MM rules Win goal, Loss limit, 3 losses in a row, and never replay  any net wins.