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8OR9

 If you are carrying alot of cash in the USA to play poker, baccarat etc etc ...these articles may be of interest to you ( I'm not sure what the laws are in other countries )

https://endforfeiture.com/?utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=civil-forfeiture&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgqGrBhDtARIsAM5s0_mTTOZjlPTcf5wg4O-p3g2ipDmOuiPFQgBAT3xkeaApjpSH5uKtGTIaAuHUEALw_wcB

https://civilrights.org/resource/why-civil-asset-forfeiture-is-legalized-theft/

https://ij.org/issues/private-property/civil-forfeiture/

A good  idea is to buy some Travelers checks and/or money orders and hide them in your shoes if you are planning on taking a long car or train ride to a casino or somewhere else.

alrelax

It also has plenty to do with your background, if you can account for where you pulled the cash from (your legit personal or business bank accounts, sale of car/house or whatever) then shouldn't be a problem.  But if your engaged in drugs, O.C., etc., or received it as a courier for drug people, organized crime figures, etc., people under surveillance and you walked into the picture and so on then there might be problems. 

I have been through airport security plenty of times, post 9-11, TSA went through my carry on briefcase or duffle and unzipped a small business bank bag I carry with anywhere from $25k-$50k and never once said anything.  Of course I could defend any questions with it being pulled out of my legit bank accounts. 

Many times I just wire it to the main property I will be going to/staying at and then pull it out either at the table by signing markers against it or simply at the cage, walk up and present ID and request whatever I desire in cash.  Completely normal and standard protocols.  Casino hosts like it that way anyway, because you agree 'XYZ' Front Money, if your not playing on credit markers, etc.  Casino hosts agree to various levels of RFB&I. 

But yes, if you are illegal citizen status, no tax returns and engaged in criminal activity or money laundering of various forms, there is a need to be worried.
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KungFuBac

Thx 8OR9. Interesting and somewhat concerning.

"...A good  idea is to buy some Travelers checks and/or money orders and hide them in your shoes if you are planning on taking a long car or train ride to a casino or somewhere else...."

Excellent ideas. Its also a good idea to check with your primary bank as they often have low limits on their max allowance for money orders(I went years without knowing this as I never purchased a MO or travelers chk). Many federal credit unions will not charge for money orders so if low max for M.O. (say 500 or 1000) then not a problem as we can purchase as many as we need.

Many banks will also allow for a temporary increase on our debit card if one calls ahead and requests an increase in daily load/ withdrawals for the next 7 days,...etc. People going on vacation, gambling,...etc.

Other options to get around carrying large sums of cash:

I researched this a few years back due to my increase in gambling trips as well as playing in smaller markets with smaller casino chains.

A)Try to bank at a regional or national bank system in your primarily gambling-destination towns. Bank of America, Jp Morgan Chase,..etc.

B) Visa or MCard preload debit cards. Even better if they can be loaded at a Walmart or Walgreens pharmacy(locations everywhere).

C) Pay attention to not only fees (for loading and or withdrawl) but also note daily limits. Also, if you think you may want to transfer back and forth between say your main bank and say paypal(research this before selecting the best card for you.)

A few that I have used in the past/present:

Brinks debit card
Paypal MC debit card
Netspend debit card


They all have upper deposit load limits (15000), accepted everywhere, and high daily load/withdrawl-transfer limits(<=5000 per day). They may have low daily atm limits--though we shouldnt need (or want) to withdraw via atm anyway. Our (at least my) goal is for avoiding carrying large sums of cash(via car or plane.

*Netspend allows up to 7500 daily deposit



Continued Success,
"There are many large numbers smaller than one."

8OR9

This is the type of situation which I was trying to describe above................which is the ultimate nightmare for people who had no criminal intent:



https://ij.org/case/us-private-vaults-missing-property/

alrelax

Among many others I do carry, with a couple of them having many thousands of dollars withdrawal ability per day, with no charges at designated ATMs, a great card is Chime. Chime allows $1,000.00 a day deposit and you could do it at Walgreens and there is zero charge to deposit. Depending on the ATMs you use will depend if there's fees or not for withdrawals. But overall a great prepaid card is Chime.
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Played well over 36,311 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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KungFuBac

Thx alrelax on info re: Chime.

"...I do carry, with a couple of them having many thousands of dollars withdrawal ability per day, with no charges at designated ATMs, a great card is Chime. Chime allows $1,000.00 a day deposit and you could do it at Walgreens and there is zero charge to deposit. ..."


I did not research that one as it was 4-5 years ago. I have noticed the Chime commercials in past couple years.

*The key is to find one that fits ones' personal objective. They each seemed to have some little quirk (e.g., High daily withdrawl, deposits), yet maybe low ATM daily max with high ATM fees. I have only withdrawn from a casino ATM one time(once being the key word). I "think" the transaction fees totaled $8.75 (on 500, "ouch") as my bank AND the transaction company zinged me.


Continued Success,

"There are many large numbers smaller than one."

8OR9


Another example of confiscation of funds.......13 year old girl was the victim.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/waconia-family-says-bank-closed-042939175.html

alrelax

QuoteThx alrelax on info re: Chime.

"...I do carry, with a couple of them having many thousands of dollars withdrawal ability per day, with no charges at designated ATMs, a great card is Chime. Chime allows $1,000.00 a day deposit and you could do it at Walgreens and there is zero charge to deposit. ..."


I did not research that one as it was 4-5 years ago. I have noticed the Chime commercials in past couple years.

*The key is to find one that fits ones' personal objective. They each seemed to have some little quirk (e.g., High daily withdrawl, deposits), yet maybe low ATM daily max with high ATM fees. I have only withdrawn from a casino ATM one time(once being the key word). I "think" the transaction fees totaled $8.75 (on 500, "ouch") as my bank AND the transaction company zinged me.


Continued Success,



IMO, one of the best.

"Bank online through Chime for cash withdrawals at fee-free ATMs1 using your debit card. Just launch the ATM Finder in your Chime app to find ATMs near you. You can also find more fee-free cash-back locations like Walmart, Dollar General, Target, and other retailers.

More fee-free ATMs than the top 3 national banks combined
With access to 60,000+ fee-free ATMs1 at stores like Walgreens®, 7-Eleven®, CVS Pharmacy®, and Circle K, we're making it more convenient to get cash on the go.

Make fee-free cash deposits5 at Walgreens®
Deposit cash conveniently at over 8,500 Walgreens locations – that's more walk-in locations than you'd have using any bank in the US.

You can withdraw up to $515 a day from your Chime account using an ATM. This $515 and any fees you incur from out-of-network withdrawals count toward the $2,500 daily limit on the Chime card."


Although it's not a large amount to withdraw cash per day, I do believe you can send yourself a western union (old trick to send to one's self) for the 9.00-18.00 or so for another $1,000.00-$2,500.00, etc.  But anyway, great backup card IMO. Virtually no fees if you stay within their huge national network and not use those casino ATMs or independent private gas station ATMs, etc.


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Played well over 36,311 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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