Bring it to your own thread please.

Quote from: Lung Yeh on November 30, 2015, 04:41:04 PM
it's a disaster. Lost US$500k. I intend to give up or there will be dire consequences. 😞😞😔😔. Too tired to discuss. As is usual, lost control... And took credit from the junckets and then use credit cards. I think I have bipolar disorder...

Sorry to hear your terrible loss.  Not that it really matters to me- it doesn't, but I have no desire to see you or anyoone lose money to the casios which I disdain.

The colors, the light, the sound, the comps . . .everything about the casino environment is designed to lull one into a place of "dreamland" to separate patrons from their money.  Sure, Giz is correct as to greed being a part of the problem gambler syndrome but NOT the only problem.  The adrenaline rush, the dopamine all contribute to actual chemical changes that affect some more than others. 

Ask yourself.  Can you stop?  How do you think Gr8 lost 250k at this game?  Apparently he is now cured and that is good.  Maybe you should ask hiim how he overcame that "addiction" and compulsive behavior?

Lung you should not belive in Everything on this forum.
When they say they have 53% or 60% strike ratio - so does it not have so much about how they bet as every one can have that strike ratio some-times - is not rocket sience.
The game is 50/50 and has negative expectaion - so no one can keep 53/60% strike ratio and no one can succed flat betting with out using some kind of progression.

When you read Jimski, GR8 and AS post and replys you have to understand they don't have any bet selection that is better then Follow The Last or any other kind of march.
It does not matter what kind of march or betting you do as no one can outguess better then 50/50 with negative expectation.

All combinations has the same probability even if you might get other impression reading what other has to say - so is it only illusion.
I feel sorry for your loses and maybe you should stop playing all togheter.

Cheers

Quote from: Sputnik on November 30, 2015, 06:51:13 PM
Lung you should not belive in Everything on this forum.
When they say they have 53% or 60% strike ratio - so does it not have so much about how they bet as every one can have that strike ratio some-times - is not rocket sience.
The game is 50/50 and has negative expectaion - so no one can keep 53/60% strike ratio and no one can succed flat betting with out using some kind of progression.

When you read Jimski, GR8 and AS post and replys you have to understand they don't have any bet selection that is better then Follow The Last or any other kind of march.
It does not matter what kind of march or betting you do as no one can outguess better then 50/50 with negative expectation.

All combinations has the same probability even if you might get other impression reading what other has to say - so is it only illusion.
I feel sorry for your loses and maybe you should stop playing all togheter.

Cheers

Ditto.

Quote from: Jimske on November 30, 2015, 06:29:11 PM
How do you think Gr8 lost 250k at this game?

Good one, Jimske....you feel better about yourself now, do you?

Quote from: gr8player on November 30, 2015, 10:08:51 PM
Good one, Jimske....you feel better about yourself now, do you?

:))Look, you're the one that told everybody you lost 250,000 not me.  This really isn't personal with me.  I brought it up assuming that you lost it because at one time you were totally out of control and thought you might have some insight for Yeh.

Oh, BTW, I one time played for months accumulating a nice big bank (12k) and lost it all back in one night at one table - Blackjack.  I went home with tears in my eyes.  I was out of control.  It was a wake up call for me.  Though I have occasionally gone gone tilt for small amounts it doesn't really happen to me because I have learned how to navigate it.  No one is immune to this.

Frankly, I think you should just look at your loss as a business venture gone bad and move on.  Doesn't matter if you get that money back.  A big mistake people make is "trying to get my money back."  It ain't your money anymore.  It's commendable that you were able to overcome.  Good for you.  But I could really care less.

I must correct a thing that I posted a few days ago and that was inadvertently deleted because it was off topic. I just discovered that the DSM-5 has classified problem gambling as an addiction, in it's own category for addiction too. So now there are those dollars for insurance companies to pay out for assessment and treatment too. Go figure. I wonder what became of the acknowledgment of the research regarding of a self cure? I guess that research flies in the face of the notion "once an addict always an addict." If you are always an addict you can never be cured. That's the way addicts are treated you know. I don't see this debate being over any time soon. Self cure has gone nowhere. It's still here.

I'm really sorry for Lung loss. Losing control at this game is very easy, it happened to everyone of us.
 
For everyone thinking that every bet will be 50/50 placed with negative expectation with no points of valid intervention no matter what, I just say "LOL".

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I felt sorry for the lost. Been in that position. I believe many of the member also been in that situation. But I believe in the says "If there is a will, there will be a way".

For me, I wrote down some rules In my score card before hit the table. Eg "Never make a 3rb bet after 2 LIAR. Stop,observe/make virtual bet". I wrote it it in BOLD with a RED marker. But it also didn't work for the first time. It takes practice, patience, self control to obey what you wrote for yourself.

But I believe that one could "heal his self". IMHO, you just have to figure it out by yourself.

Now I have my own board?? (Courtesy of Jimske?? Thanks).

Well, after every loss, I shut my mind and move on. Make money from my businesses, sell assets and come back again. Playing baccarat makes me happy. I often console myself when I lose that it might as well be some of my business partners or management screwing up and losing me money too. Same thing except that in baccarat I lose the money myself.

I told myself the last trip will be the LAST trip if I lose. But I often lie. To myself. So I am going to try again. And I am working out with aymbac on the Asian trip. Just to let the forum know that the offer did not die off. But we (Asymbac and me) will have to agree on further disclosure in this forum. Truth is some of us here have no tolerance for different opinions and approaches and are quite vocal, dismissive and condescending to those who have different approaches.

God bless.

Quote from: Lung Yeh on December 02, 2015, 01:09:59 AM
Now I have my own board?? (Courtesy of Jimske?? Thanks).

:)My pleasure!

QuoteWell, after every loss, I shut my mind and move on. Make money from my businesses, sell assets and come back again. Playing baccarat makes me happy. I often console myself when I lose that it might as well be some of my business partners or management screwing up and losing me money too. Same thing except that in baccarat I lose the money myself.

I told myself the last trip will be the LAST trip if I lose. But I often lie. To myself. So I am going to try again. And I am working out with aymbac on the Asian trip. Just to let the forum know that the offer did not die off. But we (Asymbac and me) will have to agree on further disclosure in this forum. Truth is some of us here have no tolerance for different opinions and approaches and are quite vocal, dismissive and condescending to those who have different approaches.

God bless.

Disclosure to the board?  Why?  I wouldn't except if I was hoodwinked.

Opinions are one thing.  Stressing opinions and passing them as fact without appropriate documentation or explanation quite another.

Quote from: Lung Yeh on December 02, 2015, 01:09:59 AM
Now I have my own board?? (Courtesy of Jimske?? Thanks).

Well, after every loss, I shut my mind and move on. Make money from my businesses, sell assets and come back again. Playing baccarat makes me happy. I often console myself when I lose that it might as well be some of my business partners or management screwing up and losing me money too. Same thing except that in baccarat I lose the money myself.

I told myself the last trip will be the LAST trip if I lose. But I often lie. To myself. So I am going to try again. And I am working out with aymbac on the Asian trip. Just to let the forum know that the offer did not die off. But we (Asymbac and me) will have to agree on further disclosure in this forum. Truth is some of us here have no tolerance for different opinions and approaches and are quite vocal, dismissive and condescending to those who have different approaches.

God bless.

Thanks for the confidence.

If we'll ever meet us you won't be disappointed. :-)


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Point noted. I was just thinking to disclose the result of the proposed trip for discussion purposes, subject to mutual agreement. In real play, I won't have the inclination to do a commentary round by round nor would anybody worth their salt. It would be quite distracting; as if trying to win is not challenging enough. I wonder how those who can document and rationalise their bet decisions round by round do it. Hats off to them.

So from a practical standpoint, the best we can propose to do is to disclose the end results at the conclusion of the trip. We can have documentary proofs posted. Anyway, just thinking out loud.

You never say what style you use that cause you so much losses at the baccarats, hey hey.

Quote from: Lung Yeh on December 02, 2015, 03:18:36 AM
Point noted. I was just thinking to disclose the result of the proposed trip for discussion purposes, subject to mutual agreement. In real play, I won't have the inclination to do a commentary round by round nor would anybody worth their salt. It would be quite distracting; as if trying to win is not challenging enough. I wonder how those who can document and rationalise their bet decisions round by round do it. Hats off to them.

So from a practical standpoint, the best we can propose to do is to disclose the end results at the conclusion of the trip. We can have documentary proofs posted. Anyway, just thinking out loud.