Tested FLAT BETTING in 9.000 Live spins in Dozens and Columns and ended up with almost 0 loss 0 win.
In other words the -2,7 was gone.

Formations :

123/321/231/312/213/132=Run (R) sign
121/232/131/313/212/323=Change (C) sign

we bet after 3 signs have formed and from there continuous play looking always the last 3 Signs

Betting selections:

RRR= Bet R
CCC= Bet C

RCR= Bet C
CRC= Bet R

RCC=Bet C
CRR=Bet R

RRC=Bet C
CCR=Bet R

Clarification:
The repetition on the Doz or Col does NOT count as a movement(Formation) and its always a Win.
We are betting 2 Doz or 2 Col in every spin.

Interesting approach.

I assume if you get:

132 - R
333 - ?
121 - C

is a no bet?

132 - R
121 - C
321 - R

bet for C to happen.

A.

Copy/paste

""""Clarification:
The repetition on the Doz or Col does NOT count as a movement(Formation) and its always a Win.
We are betting 2 Doz or 2 Col in every spin.""""

No room for questions. I have already explained everything
We are betting on every single spin.
In other words don t take account the repetitions...like never happened in the formation.

Quote from: moglizu on August 01, 2017, 04:45:07 PM
We are betting on every single spin.
In other words don t take account the repetitions...like never happened in the formation.

OK - ignore the repetitions so:

123 - R
213 - R
333 - ignore - like it never happened
121 - C

so bet C

You say "bet every spin" and this is slightly confusing me though?....

A.

Write down like this

1
2
1 C
2 C
3 R

And NEVER write a repetition.

Unfortunately, this does not change almost anything.
9000 spins does not prove anything.
I have simulations where I have 10000 bets not spins and I'm zero, but later it goes very fast.
Such a strategy that very well behaved, was always playing the last two dozen . It very  good stable bet  selection.

Quote from: moglizu on August 01, 2017, 05:19:31 PM
Write down like this

1
2
1 C
2 C
3 R

And NEVER write a repetition.

According to your chart then after CCR you bet for R.
The only way you can get R is for Doz 1 to occur like below...

1
2
1 C
2 C
3 R
1 R = win

But that was only a SINGLE dozen bet!

A.

Atlantis... read my 1st post. All your questions are answered there.

Quote from: moglizu on August 01, 2017, 05:37:09 PM
Atlantis... read my 1st post. All your questions are answered there.

This is all I can think of now...

1
2
1 C
2 C
3 R      CCR so bet Last Decision + Doz 1
1 R       win +1


1
2
1 C
2 C
3 R       CCR = bet Last decision + Doz 1
3           win +1


Since the doz repeated is always a win - but result is ignored (no C or R sign)

A.

Quote from: Atlantis on August 01, 2017, 06:20:29 PM
This is all I can think of now...

1
2
1 C
2 C
3 R      CCR so bet Last Decision + Doz 1
1 R       win +1


1
2
1 C
2 C
3 R       CCR = bet Last Decision + Doz 1
3           win +1


Since the doz repeated is always a win - but result is ignored (no C or R sign)

A.

Correct !
If Atlantis can do it... everyone can do it! LoL

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Formations :

123/321/231/312/213/132=Run (R) sign
121/232/131/313/212/323=Change (C) sign

we bet after 3 signs have formed and from there continuous play looking always the last 3 Signs

Betting selections:

RRR= Bet R
CCC= Bet C

RCR= Bet C
CRC= Bet R

RCC=Bet C
CRR=Bet R

RRC=Bet C
CCR=Bet R

Hi moglizu,

Maybe we can have different formations and triggers that might work equally as well or even better?

For instance on another forum a member writes about the infamous w3million CONSISTENT WINNING BET:

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I will give some help for the people that are still trying to find the bet.

The boffins bet is a loser... it's no better than betting randomly.

Flat betting is the only way.
If the betting selection is a winner the safest way is flat.

Flat betting means to bet in every spin the same amount of chips in every bet.

All I know is that I never lose a session by playing this bet.

I m not here to brag or to tease or to sell something.
I am here to help.
And yes... the people that are still searching the bet, get a great help of the things I am posting.

Find patterns that are happening more often and bet them.
Bet them flat... If your betting is a real winner it will be winning flat.

I would also like to make one proposition on the bet.
I have found that betting only 2 chips (of the movement) and not all 4. (dozens only? - A)

One day I found a bet that was fitting Charles clues 100%. I started testing it and I was surprised by the stability and the slow profits that was making (I repeat by betting 2 doz or 2 col or even both).

The phenomenon of RRCC-CCRR or RCCR-CRRC was happening all the time in my papers of tracking. (After the triggers).

I have found that betting only 2 chips (of the movement) and not all 4 is giving more stability. Although testing all 3500 spins with the 4 chips gave more profitability.

This can't be luck.
Even I am shocked at these results and the interesting point is that it's the ACETF bet Charles was describing in his clues.

The BR of this bet if played with 2 chips is 30 chips.

There are 2 kind of patterns to happen
1) AAAA or BBBB         
    ABAB or BABA         

2) AABB or BBAA
    ABBA or BAAB

The bet has triggers that trap the **2nd pattern**

If R = Runs (or repeat)
and
C= Change (or chop)

Possibly could bet after 3 "movements" or wheel dozen results to match the below criteria:


RRC - bet C         ;  CCR - bet R

RCC - bet R        ;  CRR - bet C

There would be a 'no-bet' if  last 3 results formed: RRR or CCC or RCR or CRC.

moglizu said:

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we bet after 3 signs have formed and from there continuous play looking always the last 3 Signs

You would look to 'trap' the qualifying formations only somehow.... (Maybe the triggers I'm using are not right. I don't know.- A)

Bet on R = bet the Last Dozen + the previously hit dozen.

Bet on C =  Ignore Last Dozen hit and bet the other 2 doz.

Flatbet (insurance cover on 0?)

Example:
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2                               First result recorded

1 C

1 R

1 R                           CRR = bet for C = bet d2+d3
           
2 C       win+1           RRC = bet for C = bet d1+d3     

3 C       win+1           RCC = bet for R = bet d3+d2

1 C       lost-2            CCC = no bet

1 R                            CCR = bet for R = bet d1+d3

1 R        win+1           CRR = bet for C = bet d2+d3     

3 C        win+1           RRC = bet for C = bet d1+d2
     
1 C        win+1           RCC = bet for R = bet d1+d3

1 R        win+1           CCR = bet for R = bet d1+d3

1 R         win+1          CRR = bet for C = bet d1+d3     

3 C         win+1          RRC = bet for C = bet d1+d2

2 C        win+1           RCC= bet for R = bet d2+d3

3 C         win+1          CCC = no bet 
         
3 R                            CCR = bet for R = bet d3+d2   

3 R         win+1          CRR = bet for C = bet d1+d2
====================================

+9

Thoughts? Does anyone have a different interpretation to put forward?
I don't know however if something like this might pass the 100 spins or 100 bets challenge and always be in profit?
If could win 30 sessions of 100 spins or 100 bets and still be in + well that would be something!

Regards,
A.