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Title: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 04, 2013, 05:53:17 AM
Dear Mr. Li,
              I have read both your books and have certain queries. Hopefully you would try to answer them.


1. Do you believe that roulette spins are purely random, chaotic and hence unpredictable too? I am not talking of RNG only both kinds of wheels.


2. If you feel that your any method can predict it even with slightest accuracy, do u have any tracker (in excel or exe) to evaluate that?


3. Do you feel that your way of prediction should fetch net profits flat bet mostly or it need any money management? If yes, can you please brief that?





Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: stringbeanpc on December 04, 2013, 12:43:19 PM
Albalaha,
I have both of Kimo Li's books and some of his European wheel spreadsheets, which are listed on his website, under store.

IMO all of these are a very worthwhile purchase to learn the Kimo Li methods.

Best Regards,
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 04, 2013, 04:07:55 PM
Purchasing the method is not our purpose. How to get an edge over the game with his methods/betselections? I want  would appreciate a simple explanation to this.
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: stringbeanpc on December 04, 2013, 11:32:17 PM
I was simply answering your question about whether Kimo Li has spreadsheets/trackers.

Best Regards,
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Kimo Li on December 05, 2013, 12:24:32 AM
 1. Do you believe that roulette spins are purely random, chaotic and hence unpredictable too? I am not talking of RNG only both kinds of wheels.


I do not believe the wheel is truly random because the numbers are fixed on the wheel. I believe the spins appear random because the release and speed of the ball is controlled by a human.


2. If you feel that your any method can predict it even with slightest accuracy, do u have any tracker (in excel or exe) to evaluate that?


Yes, I have spreadsheets that track every strategy and aspect of characteristics imaginable.


3. Do you feel that your way of prediction should fetch net profits flat bet mostly or it need any money management? If yes, can you please brief that?


My way of prediction can be complex or simple as the Global Star Pinwheel tracking. Money management is just that, managing your money. You must first determine how much money you want; what kind of bank you need to achieve that goal; and determine the ROI (return on investment) percentage rate, i.e., 10%, 20%, 50%, 100% or whatever suits your risk factor, just like buying and selling stocks. It depends on your investment tolerance, passive, or aggressive. Flat betting will work, with low percentage returns. Progressive bets will net whatever you decide to make.


Kimo Li

Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 05, 2013, 03:23:57 AM
Dear Mr Li,
         Which of the betselection looks you most promising and say I target to win 20% profit in a session which progression strategy you recommend? One of the guy using more method told me that he uses a kind of fibonnacci progression where bet ranges from 1 to 70. What do you recommend?
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Kimo Li on December 05, 2013, 06:06:28 AM
Hi Albalaha,

It all depends on your base investment. Say your base is 100.00, now your target goal is 120.00 because that is 20% of your investment. If you miss, now your base increases and must reflect your target goal of 20%. What this means is increase each bet to reflect a return of 20%.

I recommend that you create a table that will facilitate increases that will automatically calculate the 20% return or any percent you decide that is within your budget parameters.

Kimo Li
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Tomla on December 05, 2013, 07:25:18 AM
               Kimo---thanks for your response to everyone, you do have some playing style I have heard! But as a fun an unusual experience Albahala who advertises to everyone his variance expertise, is poking around for answers on how to handle his-lol--so much fun is this place! In his next post he will be explaining about his betting system w without explaining..
and to Kimo --mucho good luck
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: XXVV on December 05, 2013, 08:01:44 AM
@Kimo Li


Thank you. These are wonderful and helpful answers. A 20% return is highly desirable and would even recommend 10% but exactly as you say - determine what you want and work to that.
R.
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 05, 2013, 08:09:42 AM
CAN SOMEONE ILLUSTRATE A SESSION THIS WAY?
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 06, 2013, 05:58:26 AM
Can I see any of the tracker made upon Kimo Li's idea with his suggested progression? Anybody?
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Tomla on December 06, 2013, 06:19:11 AM
Albahala--for a man that's a self proclaimed genius---you seem to be begging for info on Kimos stuff---just use your own progression?
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 06, 2013, 06:24:43 AM
I respect Kimo Li but I believe I have more feats than him. I am not begging for anything because I am an innovator and have been teaching pro players like you for years. I just want to evaluate as to Kimo's predicted betseletion has any difference from a random one or not.
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Tomla on December 06, 2013, 07:26:14 AM
Albahala, post your results, show your stuff?  don't just beg!
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Tomla on December 06, 2013, 08:41:38 AM
i do it stupidly and i love it---works on most bet selections
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Kimo Li on December 06, 2013, 01:29:49 PM
Albalaha,

Your methods, of which I know nothing about, and care not to know, are yours. You are trying compare your methods with mine. As Tomla had point out, you seem to be able to figure things out, so use your own money management produce your own results.

If you are trying to figure out how I do things, you are not an innovator, you are a reverse engineer who is trying to synthesize and build upon ideas of others, which of course is the essence of progress not innovation.

I will cease in answering any of your questions as your intent is to extract information that will synthesize  your knowledge of roulette and to claim it your own. If you want to speak of your methods, please do so. I am more that willing to listen. I will not fall for your ruse.

Kimo Li



Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 07, 2013, 12:07:48 AM
Quote from: Tomla on December 06, 2013, 07:26:14 AM
Albahala, post your results, show your stuff?  don't just beg!


Have a look here:
http://albalaha.lefora.com/sreply/46947663/Race-wheel-unique-winning-approach-play-inside-number



How many of you can win 30-50 sessions in a row?
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 07, 2013, 12:38:16 AM
Dear Kimo Li,
     Your two statements:
QuoteAlbalaha,
Your methods, of which I know nothing about, and care not to know, are yours.
and
QuoteIf you want to speak of your methods, please do so. I am more that willing to listen.If

clash with each other.

You can see a compilation of a few of my old methods, you can visit this: http://betselection.cc/index.php?topic=2673.0 (http://betselection.cc/index.php?topic=2673.0)


Kimo,
        Your betselections are innovative like nuke, bowtie, star,pie, boomrang and..........................
but...
        Are they really giving any edge to a player in overall and sufficient to earn without any kind of money management or does it really increase the accuracy of predictions? If not, they are only as good as any random betselection.


QuoteI will cease in answering any of your questions as your intent is to extract information that will synthesize  your knowledge of roulette and to claim it your own.
           Is it a joke of some kind? Both of your books are as much open to all forum members as wikipedia. I have a compilation of hundreds of books on roulette and gambling costing anywhere from $1.99 to a few thousands of dollars. I can say none makes a player any better in terms of winning. Unless you have an exclusive skill to handle the best, average and the worst session equally easily, you are no better than any "unskilled" and "uneducated" gambler.
           I know all pros and cons to all the so called "progressions" and all of them "benefits" and "harms" proportionally and none is fit to be used in all kind of sessions.
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: ADulay on December 07, 2013, 01:22:14 AM
Quote from: Albalaha on December 07, 2013, 12:38:16 AM
  Both of your books are as much open to all forum members as wikipedia. I have a compilation of hundreds of books on roulette and gambling costing anywhere from $1.99 to a few thousands of dollars.

Al,

  Please post up a scan of one of the $1000 books you have.   The cover will suffice.

  AD
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 07, 2013, 01:40:27 AM
How about posting genuinewinner woth $2500?
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: weddings on December 07, 2013, 02:29:33 AM
Well it's true that 'All talk but no proof' So..


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Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 07, 2013, 02:34:33 AM
good job, Wedding.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: esoito on December 07, 2013, 03:22:41 AM
The word 'good' doesn't do justice and is the understatement of the year..

Those results are simply astounding and outstanding. All are winning sessions bar one that lost next to nothing.

The overall profits for just 4 days of limited sessions indicate someone with self-discipline, with great skill, and well worth listening to.

Well done.  Very well done indeed!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Kimo Li on December 07, 2013, 03:52:12 AM
Well done Weddings, simply amazing.

Kimo Li
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Kimo Li on December 07, 2013, 04:16:14 AM
My questions for Kimo Li

Interesting name for a topic.

I do not understand. Why does someone who knows all aspects of roulette have a desire to ask me questions about roulette. Why, it makes no sense.

The topic should read, questions for all members 1, 2, 3. Maybe all of the members will post their point of view. Just maybe. In fact, it would be great if those who had posted on this topic, or have read this topic, answer the questions as though you were asked about your own methods.

Kimo Li
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 07, 2013, 04:22:24 AM
Dear Kimo,
   You teach what to play so you should tell how to play too and when and how much and how does that make any difference from playing anything randomly.
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Kimo Li on December 07, 2013, 04:51:44 AM
Dear Albalaha,

Yes I teach. It would be unfair to teach for free as the majority of GPM roulette players pay large sums of money. However, there are a few players who have paid a few hundred or close to nothing. The cream of the crop pay 10% of their annual profits as they were given a choice, pay 500.00 a week or 10% of their annual winnings, most chose 10% of their annual winnings. These are honorable men and women and very loyal. What they had failed to realize is they make 500.00 per hour and work a few days a week, four hour sessions. I would have chosen 500.00 a week. What is interesting is they all thought 500.00 a week was too much. I am not accepting any more students. Time is precious to me.

So for me to teach for free would insult those who have made a commitment. I did post the Global Star Pinwheel strategy for free. If anyone takes that strategy seriously, they will be making more money than the can imagine. Yes, the key component is missing, money management. Brent Morton is a good read for money management.

Kimo Li
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 07, 2013, 05:17:18 AM
Fair enough. Closing this topic.
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: ADulay on December 07, 2013, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: Albalaha on December 07, 2013, 01:40:27 AM
How about posting genuinewinner woth $2500?

Al,

  Well, it's almost closed.  You can't get away that easily!

  I asked if you would post up a photo of the cover of the $1000 book (any of them will suffice) that you purchased and you come back with a request for somebody's $2500 system play.

  So, you can start a new thread with the cover picture or retract your original statement about buying those books.

  Your choice.

  AD
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: Albalaha on December 07, 2013, 05:57:31 PM
Captain,
I said.
QuoteI have a compilation of hundreds of books on roulette and gambling costing anywhere from $1.99 to a few thousands of dollars.

           I did not say I have bought them and no hard bound book but only e-books, systems and scanned books(a few).
Title: Re: My questions for Kimo Li
Post by: ADulay on December 07, 2013, 08:31:46 PM
Al,

  OK, I'll let you slide on a technicality.

  I'll consider it closed.

  AD