Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 15, 2017, 11:48:07 AM
That's great news Vic, keep up the good job!

It was paid thanks to a little bitcoin earnings saved. We haven't had a "Paypal donate" campaign since quite some time.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 15, 2017, 11:48:07 AMVictor has proposed me to do them for such low price, if it was even lower I would be even more happy, on the end it's more about time rather than money but I believe it worths the wait.

Yes, first a standalone for testing then a bot module.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 15, 2017, 11:48:07 AMLast but not least, not everything for everyone, the roulette should never be consider as an easy money maker!

Agreed. Human-based play is way too draining on the brain. Chances are it's a game for bots.

Only a program could sustain the amount of focused work needed to beat the beast for billions(!)

(That's spins)

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 15, 2017, 12:08:33 PM
This was a very slow and gradual progress which didn't make me jump up and down from happiness like I'd have won the lottery...it took much time and money, it was expected and I deserved it.

Sincere congrats on the win!

Thank you Victor, may your path be a victorious one as your name suggests.

I'd like to clarify about my 3 aforementioned methods, they are a solid base but not exactly what I'm using now, parameters left out intentionally.
As they are, they will win most of the times, yet better than many others.
As a matter of fact the complete solution is a combination of them, from which and to what proportion of each I'm leaving it to your judgement.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 15, 2017, 01:45:08 PM
Thank you Victor, may your path be a victorious one as your name suggests.

I'd like to clarify about my 3 aforementioned methods, they are a solid base but not exactly what I'm using now, parameters left out intentionally.
As they are, they will win most of the times, yet better than many others.
As a matter of fact the complete solution is a combination of them, from which and to what proportion of each I'm leaving it to your judgement.

And in reality as well as IMO, one of the most honest statements ever made in the field of systems, etc. 

Probably the same ideas and experiences I have found in real BAC play, like I have tried to define???  Reference the agenda and reasons why events happen or don't happen, even more so why we wager for or against them. 

Quote from: alrelax on October 15, 2017, 02:12:56 PM
And in reality as well as IMO, one of the most honest statements ever made in the field of systems, etc. 

Probably the same ideas and experiences I have found in real BAC play, like I have tried to define???  Reference the agenda and reasons why events happen or don't happen, even more so why we wager for or against them. 

In my point of view gambling could be perceived as the ultimate challenge of personality...
Success tests you as the worst enemy, failure could aid you as the best ally and all of us are standing somewhere in between, on the line which enemies and allies have crossed so many times...

Divination expresses through random and assist us build a strong character, ain't this the inner, subconscious desire to communicate with the supernatural world, what we call faith?

Faith in yourself and what you do is the power which lies within, believe in it and you shall see the results you are looking for, it's no matter of if but when, ask the right questions if you expect the right answers.

So. A lot of brew haha!!  What the hell is the prediction now for today?

Like I said, an old Chinese man told me!!!!

Like some pointing to the score board with tons of conviction,  LOL.

Quote from: alrelax on October 15, 2017, 04:59:29 PM
So. A lot of brew haha!!  What the he'll is the prediction now for today?

Like I said, an old Chinese man told me!!!!

Like some pointing to the score board with tons of conviction,  LOL.

What?
Zing Zang?! 

It's amazing to me how after so many times which we have seen the same things over and over again we still wonder which way wind blows...even after a century we will keep on wondering within random's maze!
Everything changes and yet remains the same... 

Nothing really changes the highest majority of the time. 

Doctor Venkman proved that back in 1984 with electro shocks that,  negative reinforcement does affect most of us. 

Quote from: alrelax on October 15, 2017, 05:12:28 PM
Nothing really changes the highest majority of the time. 

Doctor Venkman proved that back in 1984 with electro shocks, 

Oh, I'm sure, you could find many such examples in life.

Quote from: Mike on October 15, 2017, 08:37:43 AM
The Patron idea may be good for artists, musicians and other "creators", but it's a poor business model if what you're creating is roulette software which is designed to make money for the user. Most who frequent forums like this are just looking for a reliable way to make money from gambling, they are not "fans" of Victor the "artist" who want to support his work. Patreon is an absurdly bad fit in this case, and I don't know why Victor is so reluctant to simply put price tags on his software, perhaps he thinks it will lay him open to accusations of being a scammer if the software doen't "work".
If the software is "art" and he is an artist then the art is to be enjoyed for its own sake; it doesn't necessarily have to work, unlike a bridge which should at least not collapse, lol.

Mike makes some good points. 

I thought "...absurdly bad fit..." was very apt phrasing!

Even so, I sincerely hope we're proved wrong, and that Victor's 'Patreon Adventure' works out well and he achieves his objectives. 

His heart is in the right place. Wanting to help others is a noble aspiration.

Hopefully he will broaden his software base, and offer alternatives to the limited niche of gambling software in due course. That will widen his customer base.

After all, he's an ace programmer, capable of producing all sorts of programs.   

Quote from: VLS on October 15, 2017, 07:40:24 AM
It's okay GG, it was agreed by two consenting adults so no harm

Yes I understand you both agreed to this arrangement, but now he's publicly complaining about it not being done.

My point of view is if he had paid the proper amount in the first place maybe it would be done.

Cheers.