So where are these students?

Kind of reminds me of the bad old day when silly people sent Izak money for systems that didn't work and wrote it off due to embarrassment and being ashamed to request their money back, they would admit it behind the scenes, but never publicly. .

So esoito name me one system that has been sold that worked, which justifies not jumping to conclusions with "knee jerk" reactions!  No need for the increased red font, this is a gambling site, not some school, lots of thread go off topic so chill out cobber.       

Quote from: Kimo Li on August 24, 2016, 06:17:25 AM
Hi esoito,

Students, well at least students of mine, do not want to give testimonials unless they remain anonymous, because they are under a non-disclosure agreement. However, if you ask them to write to you privately, and give their testimonials, and not expose their identity, I am sure they would agree to give you the answers you seek about their experience in the school environment.

Perhaps, Gizmotron's students do not want to be exposed to the forum as well.

So, if you ask Gizmotron's students to write to you privately and post their experience, without giving away their identity, they may respond to you and you can post their comments.

Kimo Li

See......now Kimo is smart!

He thought of every angle before pulling this scam.

Wish everyone would put in this much effort.....

Quote from: MarkTeruya on August 24, 2016, 12:08:45 PM
Kind of reminds me of the bad old day when silly people sent Izak money for systems that didn't work and wrote it off due to embarrassment and being ashamed to request their money back, they would admit it behind the scenes, but never publicly. .

Bingo! Just like no one would ever admit to being the victim of a Nigerian prince email scam, although amazingly some poor suckers fall for them.

QuoteSo esoito name me one system that has been sold that worked, which justifies not jumping to conclusions with "knee jerk" reactions!

Good question. The characters who promote these systems don't seem to mind the negative attention either. I suppose any publicity is better than none.

Quote from: Lupo on August 24, 2016, 08:27:26 AM
Maybe. I am very moderate in my purchases in general.

My concern here is that my time is quite limited due to work & family and I cannot spend many hours on studying, discussion boards, chats etc. I need to be sure it is put straightforward.

It's basically complete. You can just read it. Others have already asked enough questions that discussion has now dropped to examples of sessions and my comments of how and why I select bets that I do. So for the next several weeks I will be uploading sessions with comments and results for each spin in the sessions. I'm improving my practice software so that it too makes practicing my strategy easier.


The real point is, do you have time to go to the casino?

Quote from: TheLaw on August 24, 2016, 01:00:33 PM
See......now Kimo is smart!

He thought of every angle before pulling this scam.

Wish everyone would put in this much effort.....

Agree totally, All avenues covered so he can't be discredited.  Not the first to do so, (oh you didn't play it right, you misunderstood), even a moderator of this forum has a history of that behavior.

Quote from: Jake on August 24, 2016, 01:10:20 PM
Bingo! Just like no one would ever admit to being the victim of a Nigerian prince email scam, although amazingly some poor suckers fall for them.

Good question. The characters who promote these systems don't seem to mind the negative attention either. I suppose any publicity is better than none.

It begs the question why Iplayforaliving was given a free rein for so long, maybe esoito can answer.

In truth I always assumed VLS was above letting scammers on his site, but it appears not

Quote from: MarkTeruya on August 24, 2016, 03:46:44 PM
It begs the question why Iplayforaliving was given a free rein for so long, maybe esoito can answer.

In truth I always assumed VLS was above letting scammers on his site, but it appears not

Ditto.  I came across a couple in the casino that bought the premium package from Iplayforaliving.  Besides it being a losing system, hey were denied the training that they paid for. No replies or when he does, it's nasty.

Quote from: Jake on August 24, 2016, 01:10:20 PM
Bingo! Just like no one would ever admit to being the victim of a Nigerian prince email scam, although amazingly some poor suckers fall for them.

Exactly! 

Quote from: Babu on August 24, 2016, 05:50:28 PM
Ditto.  I came across a couple in the casino that bought the premium package from Iplayforaliving.  Besides it being a losing system, hey were denied the training that they paid for. No replies or when he does, it's nasty.

I feel vindicated, as well as receiving a ban (thanks esolito) for saying as much at the time.

All anybody needs to do is grab a set of truth tables, spend some time with them (esolito), it will quickly prove there is no bet selection solution to the game of Baccarat, because everything resolves to a 50-50 state.  There is no possible solution, not now, not ever, because mathematically it simply can not exist.  So the next snake oil sales person that appears trying to sell / promote any Baccarat system, some of us feel justified to adopt a knee jerk reaction.  No doubt the same applies to Roulette, but of course Gizmo is going to the the world's first since the history of the game, to prove everybody wrong, once he receives a few $200 payments (only $200??).

FYI esolito I loathe system sellers, because I know how hard it is to win in a casino, I am acutely aware of the tactics they will employ to trip up anybody who is ahead, can hold their own, does well.  It is a difficult battle, while others winning or losing has no bearing on me, I applaud others winning, because casino staff are sharks and can be utterly despicable at times, the last thing I want is fellow players also ripping each other off.  Hence my strong anti-seller stance I like to think I do have morals.     

Quote from: MarkTeruya on August 24, 2016, 11:10:21 PM
... No doubt the same applies to Roulette, but of course Gizmo is going to the the world's first since the history of the game, to prove everybody wrong, once he receives a few $200 payments (only $200??).     

Not only can my students and I beat the game of Roulette through skills that I've shared with them, I have completely confounded you regarding the worth of the same. You question why anyone would sell something worth thousands and thousands of dollars, something that I personally lost thousands and thousands of dollars learning in the first place. I'm the only one that can truly put a value on it. I chose $200 because I knew that teaching all the students at once would take far less effort than that I had to teach each one individually, like I did before.


What gratifies me most of all is that I have so much more to offer my students now then when before all I had was proof that there are trends that present opportunities.


I should have offered this sooner. If you were a student from the first ten, then I will let you in to see the big deal difference for $100.

Quote from: Gizmotron on August 25, 2016, 11:56:08 PM
Perhaps one day the HG will come from the law of thirds.

I thought You teach your students ... How to  Play  your  "THE HG"
If the HG is not come OUT yet

:-( What can I say more :-)

Good Luck with the school...

with Respect
BETJACK

Quote from: BetJack on August 26, 2016, 02:04:13 AM
I thought You teach your students ... How to  Play  your  "THE HG"
If the HG is not come OUT yet

:-( What can I say more :-)

Good Luck with the school...

with Respect
BETJACK

That deserves an honest answer. For me to be honest I must admit that most people here searching for a possible solution are skeptical of me actually already knowing one, let alone the actual holy grail.


So hear is the truth about the law of thirds, if you can handle it. The selection process, that includes moving from the existing two thirds to a new two thirds must make those moves based on conditional coincidences that are observable. The idea that a blind move based on a mechanical trigger won't ever be a holy grail. But a situational awareness method will work in combination with the law of thirds.


I chose a different kind of situational awareness to succeed at my exceptional version of the holy grail. I'm just suggesting that a law of third version could be constructed. So your assumption suggests a kind of hopeful, wishful thinking that I stumbled in my ignorance somehow and that you caught me in some proven deception. Sorry to disappoint you. I hope that I cleared that up.

I think that if Gizmo's method turns out to be a winner it won't be because of any superior bet selection, because I don't believe they exist. It's more to do with the progression. The probability of a win is about 65% and the type of staking used reminds me of Malcolm Maclean's My Mathematical Formula progression used on horse racing and sports betting. It's been around for about 40 years and is still being advertised online. It's quite a clever progression but only works if the win rate is high. You will have some small losses but eventually a nice winning run will come along and you'll clean up.

http://www.mymathematicalformula.com/

Quote from: Jake on August 27, 2016, 12:57:59 PM
I think that if Gizmo's method turns out to be a winner it won't be because of any superior bet selection, because I don't believe they exist. It's more to do with the progression. The probability of a win is about 65% and the type of staking used reminds me of Malcolm Maclean's My Mathematical Formula progression used on horse racing and sports betting. It's been around for about 40 years and is still being advertised online. It's quite a clever progression but only works if the win rate is high. You will have some small losses but eventually a nice winning run will come along and you'll clean up.

http://www.mymathematicalformula.com/

I have my decision making processes for bet selections. I've taught them, for the most part, to my students, depending on whether or not they actually learned them or not. So, I'm beginning work on the AI feature, that's Artificial Intelligence. I have proven to myself that random on random produces far more losing streaks. If I can get the software to perform as well as myself on bet selections then I will have mathematical proof that a Bayesian form of probability can be demonstrated as valid.


I found this comment written by the author:

QuoteDo I need to have patience, I'm a little bit greedy... I want to win lots of money tomorrow - Will your plan do that for me? - Probably NOT - I've written a lot on this subject over the years. The bottom line if you want to succeed in this game - You require PATIENCE - NOT to Bet on EVERY RACE - Be VERY selective with your choice - FOLLOW the rules contained in My Mathematical Formula when selecting your runner. DO NOT EVER EXPECT TO WIN MILLIONS OVER NIGHT - It's not going to happen and walk away from any advert you see promising such things.

Quote from: Jake on August 27, 2016, 12:57:59 PM
I think that if Gizmo's method turns out to be a winner it won't be because of any superior bet selection, because I don't believe they exist. It's more to do with the progression. The probability of a win is about 65% and the type of staking used reminds me of Malcolm Maclean's My Mathematical Formula progression used on horse racing and sports betting. It's been around for about 40 years and is still being advertised online. It's quite a clever progression but only works if the win rate is high. You will have some small losses but eventually a nice winning run will come along and you'll clean up.

http://www.mymathematicalformula.com/

Wow!!!........It's like someone designed a website specifically to look like a scam.

Only thing missing : "AS SEEN ON TV"

Quote from: Gizmotron on August 27, 2016, 01:28:41 PM
I have proven to myself that random on random produces far more losing streaks.

But it doesn't achieve a higher win rate than expected, or does it? If it does, you don't need a progression.

@ TheLaw

Yeah it does look a bit "scammy", to say the least. Clickbank though, so you can always get a refund if not happy.