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[alrelax]

Usually and imo and experiences, members will come in, intro and state.  Rather than through out tantalising copy and paste videos and pictures.  Especially with what I call, post a tiny bit to build interest and bait.  I highly doubt I am wrong.

[esoito]

Usually and imo and experiences, members will come in, intro and state.  Rather than through out tantalising copy and paste videos and pictures.  Especially with what I call, post a tiny bit to build interest and bait.  I highly doubt I am wrong.

Sure -- the 'bread crumb principle'. Like you, seen it all before.

But let's NOT prejudge.  Let's see what is offered first.

If criticism starts before they've even revealed their method, then nobody will ever bother at all.

[andrebac]

I am interested in any fresh, different, point of view.
After that, up to me decide if it's worth or not.
Maybe some more interesting than AR fresh air...
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[Mike]

If criticism starts before they've even revealed their method, then nobody will ever bother at all.

I agree with this, but I would like some clarification of the forum rules regarding sales of software and/or systems. There are members here who promote their software (and I'm NOT complaining about this, btw), but it's not clear whether they need to be a "Sponsor" of the forum or not? There seems to be some inconsistency here. 'Mathemagician' who markets the Roulette Key Gold software and who posts regularly on the forum with updates doesn't appear to be a sponsor, nor is 'VRSEDGE', but 'Autobetic' is.

So can just anyone who has something to sell do so on this forum? What are the restrictions, if any? Recalling the recent Stephen Tabone fiasco, is there a distinction between systems and software with respect to sales?

[Blue_Angel]

...it's not clear whether they need to be a "Sponsor" of the forum or not? There seems to be some inconsistency here. 'Mathemagician' who markets the Roulette Key Gold software and who posts regularly on the forum with updates doesn't appear to be a sponsor, nor is 'VRSEDGE', but 'Autobetic' is.

So can just anyone who has something to sell do so on this forum? What are the restrictions, if any? Recalling the recent Stephen Tabone fiasco, is there a distinction between systems and software with respect to sales?

Very good questions Mike, systems/methods don't come with stamp of authorization as proof of quality.
So what's the standard around here?
Some have been expelled as scams while others became sponsors, whether you are allowing sales or not, it's this simple.

[alrelax]

To me, someone selling something should be confined to his section or blog ref that product,  elsewhere on the board I don't believe he should be allowed to promote, harp his product in a challenging way.  Same as a newspaper.  Display ads and ad editorials are fine, but writing a letter to bash or correct someone and then continually promote and sidestep all display advertising ads is plain wrong, influential, and commercially biased endorsed by the newspaper or the website owner and unfair.

[esoito]

@ Mike:

"...I would like some clarification of the forum rules regarding sales of software and/or systems. "

Fair enough.

But as I can't help with that, I suggest you contact Victor direct about the clarification.

[VLS]

It's a bit muddy right now to be honest.

The best scenario I can think of is having TWO forums:

1) Separate spaces for members to publish whatever they please (i.e. a site made out of personal spaces).

2) This one, a traditional forum focused on systems study banning all sales @ Betselection.cc except for our own products and sponsors.

Having sellers pay sure deters random spammers. Even if sponsorship payment is small, the fact is simply having to support to sell is a deal breaker for 99.99% of spammy folks. They just move on.

Any case, it must be an all-or-nothing picture to avoid biases. Until we develop such a multi-forum, it's going to keep on being a gray area where we nuke blatant spamming sellers but keep those who provide a certain degree of benefit to the forum.

Hope this clears a bit regarding where we stand right now

Vic

[alrelax]

I endorse what Vic just posted and I added my thoughts above his.  Spam and scam sucks to the millionth power on gambling boards!! 

There is no room for people spamming their own products through subliminal and hidden thoughts and conversations here. 

[susangarcia]

Will you trade in future?