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Re: The way to beat the ECs
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2017, 06:07:07 pm »
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  • I have already explained everything multiple times in detail.
    I can t bother anymore.
    If the members that understood it want to help you then let them be my guest.


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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #31 on: March 05, 2017, 01:26:47 pm »
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  • I keep laughing when I see the word "puzzle" in this thread.
    I never posted any puzzles , I posted the full method.
    4 members have understood the method and are sending me Pms telling me 3 things.

    1) I am making easy chips with your method thank you.
    2) I have never seen any other method like this in my life thank you.
    2)I can t understand why the other members don t get it when you have posted all the info and rules of your method several times.

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #32 on: March 05, 2017, 02:02:38 pm »
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  • The members that understood my method are all gaining chips.
    They are advising me to delete the thread for the method to be protected.

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #33 on: July 28, 2018, 02:35:06 pm »
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  • Replaced in General Discussion by request, Glen.
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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #34 on: July 29, 2018, 05:21:59 am »
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  • Because I guess I'm SO STUPID... :scared: can someone be kind enough to post, say, 10 or 20 decisions charted and how you bet it??? Not sure if one event is the last 5 decisions or if it's each X or what the hey... and we're looking at 4 imaginary wheels on 1 wheel? WTF??? And I guess if you have, say, 3 reds in a row then we are betting for black to "catch up"??

    Thanks for your patience with this slow learner  :(

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #35 on: July 29, 2018, 10:33:51 am »
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  • moglizy I believe that you can flat betting and you find a method.
    But I had difficult to understand your method.

    Cheers

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #36 on: July 29, 2018, 06:38:37 pm »
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  • What is the Hubbub about "Dr." Moogies method?  Reading his thread where he used this snatched method to berate honest members that just tried to understand his immensely bad English, I couldn't stop smiling at this troll. I 've encountered his type many many times and they are all the same. Vanity-mench suffering bipolarity with an inferiority complex (probably since childhood) is but the best word to describe him.

    What he presented (he is gone now I believe) is basically kindergarten stuff and very much not invented by him. Roulette has been around since 1655.  Do you really believe this bet selection pattern hasn�t been done before? Well, it has, and in ways, way more sophisticated.

    Here is one. I made a simple tracker, not even closely comparable to the really advanced VR technology and used this tracker 7 sessions against an auto roulette of good standing.

    I used Flat betting and used progression only when I stepped up a level on the unit size for the next session, provided I had won a certain amount of units on the previous ones.

    The tracker used this "counterpoint" bet selection (yes that is what its called) to analyze three ECs.  Red Black, Low High, Odd-Even SIMULTANEOUSLY ;)

    As you see in the attached image from today's game against the auto-roulette (which had a nice 35 second Bet window between spins), 35 Units were gained without a sweat. Implementing a simple zero warning enabled me to not lose bets at those few events the zero showed up. After the zero, I used a counterpoint event calculation by comparing against the number before the zero.

    The most tricky event patterns were RRRC  and CCCR. Usually you bet the dominating factor, but when the super important Variance Graphs dived below Moving Average line and an EC started to show losses, I took the latest R or C as guiding bet on the latest numbers EC selections.

    7 sessions generated 176 units in a days play and as u see initially BR was increased 2700% with the help of the session progressions of unit size.

    The "+" and "-" were there as a notation for the tracker in order to get the variance graphs to get going so I could determine the direction of win loss probability.

    That is all. You can do a similar tracker and the counterpoint method is very simple to apply on an excel and use against an online casino with a good REAL wheel and not the CGI crappola offered to many gamblers.


    All beings are born and steeped in debt. I know of no creature that negates this fact. The commodity they bought with borrowed means, is life, and the price for its duration, be it good or bad, is death.

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #37 on: July 29, 2018, 06:54:31 pm »
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  • OK I understand a little better now re-reading posts...BUT...the Magician says you bet the DOMINATING choice (so if you have BBBBR, you would bet B), while the original system says you bet the R (because it's due to catch up/form equilibrium)... so which is it???

    BTW..if your betting the LEAST occurring, it seems to me the weakness with this is LONG stretches of one decision in a row (which happens quite often), like 12 R in a row...??? :nod:

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #38 on: July 29, 2018, 07:41:52 pm »
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  • OK I understand a little better now re-reading posts...BUT...the Magician says you bet the DOMINATING choice (so if you have BBBBR, you would bet B), while the original system says you bet the R (because it's due to catch up/form equilibrium)... so which is it???



    I never said BBBBR audionut (so what's your fave speakers btw?)

    One has to apply a variance graph into the game in order to make certain bet decisions on tricky counter-point patterns. Counterpoint means seeking to balance one point with its counterpart (harmonically interdependent).

    Say we use these events,  CCCR (not BBBR as you wrote). Normally I bet Change (C) and not Run (R). But if the bet selection variance shows that my selections have been losses beneath a certain point (Moving Average Line) I either abstain bet, or bet Run(R).

    Of course, you have combinations like these CRCC where I bet Change contra the latest spin. or here, RCRR I bet Run (R) with the latest spun number in terms of color and so on...

    The balance our dear Moogie spoke of is ridiculous to mention as he probably referred to the Strong and Weak Law of Large Numbers (which I doubt he even comprehends remotely).  That law basically sais that the results from a large number of spins ( and I speak of really large), will tend to be close to the expected value and even closer the more trials are made.

     There is a specific formula for this which I cannot post here as the fonts cannot accept the Mathematical symbols for said equation, but you can read more here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

    Striving to bet for short run "balances" are only found in Moogies head which I doubt has ever used anything but elementary math for any given problem. His reckless use of the word "Linearity" and the true meaning of said concept is also a sure sign of his ignorance and mere attempt to look "smart". Trust me, that guy is as far from smart as our Galaxy is from the original Big Bang singularity point.

    As you might see, btw, in the previous image where I posted a session, you can see in the middle graph (and to its left) I played a 78% win rate on High Low bets (you can see the wins in the blue column to the far left). That is quite awesome when it comes to ECs and especially means flat betting is all u need to kill it here ;)
    All beings are born and steeped in debt. I know of no creature that negates this fact. The commodity they bought with borrowed means, is life, and the price for its duration, be it good or bad, is death.

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #39 on: July 30, 2018, 01:47:30 am »
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  • OK...thanks for the clarification, Magician... appreciate it! ;)

    BTW...favorite speakers? So many, I have favored Electrostatics and Planar for many years (owned Apogee Acoustics and Quad 2905's) but now I own Legacy Focus SE's.... simply amazing  :)

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #40 on: July 30, 2018, 06:38:57 am »
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  • OK...thanks for the clarification, Magician... appreciate it! ;)

    but now I own Legacy Focus SE's.... simply amazing  :)

    Legacy Focus, huh? That some bad mothers. You must feel you have the orchestra, or band,  right in front of you.  :cheer:
    All beings are born and steeped in debt. I know of no creature that negates this fact. The commodity they bought with borrowed means, is life, and the price for its duration, be it good or bad, is death.

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #41 on: July 30, 2018, 03:57:03 pm »
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  • On another note concerning this "system". Personally I am finding it quite useless in the long run. It is not a high earner, especially not used online. I can understand little Moogies contentment with +5 units when using it in a landbased casino as it is very tedious.

    There are far better things out there, and the golden rule in roulette for those who try to make a good chunk of money on it, never play ECs on the long run, in any form. You are for sure guaranteed to go bust.
    All beings are born and steeped in debt. I know of no creature that negates this fact. The commodity they bought with borrowed means, is life, and the price for its duration, be it good or bad, is death.

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #42 on: June 24, 2020, 01:45:26 pm »
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  • Hello!

    This is an old thread which I found very interesting.

    I would like to ask members who are playing this method with success with your comments.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #43 on: September 14, 2020, 11:52:07 am »
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  • When Victor had his Patreon site a few years ago one of the free downloads was a detailed example of how to play the system, which I've attached. I haven't actually got around to playing it yet, but it's on my to-do list of systems to code, or write a tracker for.

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    Re: The way to beat the ECs
    « Reply #44 on: September 15, 2020, 07:20:06 am »
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  • Moglizu.you are arrogant and not smart.
    Your explanation is ridicolous, confused and not clear at all