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Started by Ralph, January 18, 2013, 11:04:22 AM

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Ralph

From time to time every fora has post of never losing system, and sometimes they call them Hg. The most common "proof" is test running a very long sim. Ever more advanced analysis show it is not bullet proof. They have never challenge the Wizard of odds, which should gain more than play the HG in 100 years. Some try to earn from selling it.


Very common is they place very few bets, it can be 1 to 10 % of the spins, they claim it is needed for break down randomness, or wait for a sure trigger. What ever the sim is done in far less spins than claimed.


We know there are winners in the game of roulette, two different players can use the same method, one can win a lot, the other lose. To win in a very long run, you need a method, but without some luck it is not possible to win.


Every long series of spins has a large amount of spins which can be lost or won, it is not possible to find a method covering all, hence it is impossible to make a 100% sure method. 


You can use a method which may help to some extent, progressions, statistic, but it can not for sure make you win, and the fact you have won is not a proof.


Most of the "winning"  methods use a hefty bankroll, accept very deep drawdown, use progressions, and/or make a lot of spins without betting. Some use statistic. This can help, but still it is not so it forever "beat the wheel", if lucky you win if not it lose, and some methods lose very much when it happens.


I will start a testing, not with history spins, and a simulator, but a play at an on line casino, make a lot of spins,  bet every spin and try to make it stand for very long. It will be done in fun mode at BV. The reason is I have to play less real for a while, as it is restrictions. They never ban winners (some claim it but it is not winnings then which is reason) but  they can set restrictions on the max amount you are allowed to win (in future, you always get paid).

TwisterUK

BV have stopped paying you ?
Are you now unable to play there ?

Ralph

Quote from: TwisterUK on January 18, 2013, 12:27:57 PM
BV have stopped paying you ?
Are you now unable to play there ?
No, I got resiticions, keep your winnings to 2000 Euro/month

Bayes

Hmm... I'd say that's pretty generous. It's enough to live on as long as you don't have too many expensive habits.  ^-^

Drazen

Quote from: Bayes on January 18, 2013, 08:14:57 PM
Hmm... I'd say that's pretty generous. It's enough to live on as long as you don't have too many expensive habits.  ^-^

Or move to country with lower life standard and have high life for less money  :))

In my country that is almost 3 average salaries, and you could live more then decent with that... Open to your wife same account and you can live profligate hehe

And of course, to your cousins also, with appropriate margin, and you can start thinking about expensive habits  O:-)

Ah what is life..  :forbidden:

Cheers

Drazen
Common sense has become so rare it should be classified as a superpower.

Ralph

I have to be pretty optimistic to live long enough to spend it if I take some care. Still I have my normal income.


This was not today it was in September last year.  Many get such winning streak but do not have the stomach to use the opportunity, you have to bet a bit maniac.


They set restrictions if you win, I think all have it, like 5000 or 10000 the same day if you read the terms.
And they can change for individuals.


Here is the first  1727 spins of the session I will make long. I have played one number only and was up to 55 units in bet, down about 3000 units at most. Went plus 5061.


Ralph

I think it is not smart business to ban anybody who has money to lose. A restriction on win do not mean it is restriction on lose >:D


Now I have done 2500 spins, so it is still a lot to go.


5464 units plus.


The way I play is to pick a number ( in this case it has been number 1 all the 2500 spins) play one until first hit, if on plus set the autospin at 37 and run 37 spins using one, if on minus set the autospin at 37 and run two units.


On a hit and minus reset the autospin and continue using the same bet setting the autospin to 37. If 37 spins and no hit bet 3 and run for 37 spins, reset to 37 on a hit. Only increase if 37 spins without a hit using fib progression.


On plus start all over.

Ralph

3400 spins and plus  8482. The method has downdraws as any "HG" this time about 4000 units.




Albalaha

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JohnLegend

Quote from: Ralph on January 19, 2013, 07:55:21 AM
3400 spins and plus  8482. The method has downdraws as any "HG" this time about 4000 units.
Ralph you have created a way to beat online Rngs it seems. Totally unpractical to play in a real casino. But you have got the RNG world in a bag it would appear. Well done for that.  :thumbsup:
I strive for methods that will travel. I can step into any casino or go online and the outcome will be the same. Each to their own.

Ralph

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 19, 2013, 08:28:53 AM
Ralph you have created a way to beat online Rngs it seems. Totally unpractical to play in a real casino. But you have got the RNG world in a bag it would appear. Well done for that.  :thumbsup:
I strive for methods that will travel. I can step into any casino or go online and the outcome will be the same. Each to their own.




All my methods will be impractical on BM.

Ralph


The serious part:


If I should play this real, first I would decide the risking money.
It would be 100.00 or 1000.00, in the first case I should play the first
session trying to reach 100 as I have done in this test.Next I would
stop at 50 knowing the worse case would be break even, if the second
winning I would go until the first loss, which should end up with a
100 win at least.


If I would risk 1000, I would go to 500 using 0.1 chips, then change
to 0.01 and play sessions aiming for 50, if lose the first stop.
If win at least 4 more I would accept 2 losses.


The method use to win, but we can lose and lose if happens to be without any
luck.
The test is now up to 4200 spins and got 10000 units. The deepest
draw down was 4000.


The more ironic part:
This HG I play in fun mode, because near every demonstration of a HG
is done in a simulation or in video fun mode. In fun mode the bankroll
is without limit, so we video record the whole day and we can then
take the best frames for Youtube.
First we put maximum in the fun account, make some hefty bets on
the EC.s, if loss we can refill the account, and soon we will have
the creditable amount of 50000.00, not more it looks too good.


We should use this method and bot it (it is allowed to steal), and to prevent reverse engineering
we must add something as random chose of numbers and random spins on each
number (I use number 1 all the time). Complexity makes credits on
the market.


We could use martingale instead of fib in the demonstration, the best
part in the video will show incredible winnings. We must state it never lose,
nobody buy it if you even mention it can lose. Do not forget to
use Copyrights and signed contract, you shall promise refund if
it not works. You will never come to a situation it will be paid.
If it lose in fun mode, you state it can happen, it is no harm.
The refund is for real mode. If any claim it in real mode, they
must proof using screenshots, and as they did not follow the rules
you never have to admit it has lost. We always play 0.01, every
HG shall use 0.01, to bear a progression of 1 to 10000  and
if you do not fullfill it and eventually win, you can not get a refund.
The method is always winning!! Period!!.

TwisterUK

Ralph, quick question. Is there a reason you use BV auto spin as opposed to  your Bot for betting 1 number ?

Thanx

Ralph

Quote from: TwisterUK on January 19, 2013, 11:02:27 AM
Ralph, quick question. Is there a reason you use BV auto spin as opposed to your Bot for betting 1 number ?

Thanx




The reason is I have not coded the method. I may do it, or anybody can do it.

Ralph

Now 5000 spins done (all with bets). It went slow as most of the hits come late in the 37 cycle, best is always a hit a few spins later after then the bet is somewhat higher.


10385 units plus.